Originally posted by ReggaePlus:
[qb] ALL videos are bad...for music. [/qb]
How so?
a video is just a commercial for the song, to keep things going an artist has to make money, best way to make money is exposre so more people know about and want your product, if good artists make a good living, (and they keep their integrity) we get more good music. theoretically i think it's good for music, sadly, in practice it hasn't been. but to be fair, neither has radio. [/qb]
Videos have [more than anything else] killed the quality of MUSIC. If it ain't for the eyes...it ain't for the ears and THAT is pure unadulterated BS. No talent bums 'grace' the screens with their videos and the talented people who can actually play/write/sing sit at home and wonder why they can't get a sniff.
If I had my way I would outlaw the damm things...but I don't and EVERY genre of music continues it's ongoing FLUSH down the toilet.
NOBODY wins. [/qb]
I agree with you. What I really hate is when I come into the break room at my work and have to see the company televison turned to MTV or BET videos showing scantily clad women "dropping it like it's hot" on there. I thought showing Jerry Springer on the company tv was bad, but those raunchy videos take the case!
Watch that crap at home! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
well 50 can't dance for poo, and his vids are still popular.
I don't think that older artists would pass up on videos if they had them.
The only problem I have with videos as a concept is the same problem with movies and books- I don't like someone putting their imagery into my head over what I imagined.
Now sometimes they do a very very good job.
Just like anything, you got some people who can bring some skill to the video game, then you got some people just going through the motions.
Why just limit the suit to rap. Lotta music is pretty disrespectful to women and doesn't depict them well.
the objective of making music is to sell it, and videos aid in the marketing.
as to objectifying women; a lot of music does that, but my point is that the irony of objectifying the black woman's body, when she was prior to that portrayed as barely female and undesireable by white media, is now the myths of her ugliness by the racist white media is slowly dwindling thanks to hip-hop videos.
yup that seems to be a clear trend, plus kids are blending cultures and that helps depictions- Madison Ave has identified an important demographic- what they call the cultural influencer, and these kids are defining trends and attitudes, so they are bending because of the influence they have on spending.
back in the day, riding the G train me and my chick would catch mad glances and stares- some what cuz she was a stunning mix- half nicaraguan and half czech- but some clearly weren't too comfortable on the racial aspect and some couldn't figure out what was going on between us as even then I carried a shaved head before I took my vows.
anyway I remember when I was in the fashion biz we would use alot of our friends and people as models, and when b-boying went real underground and was succored by the electronic music DJ culture, you rarely saw any decent representation of non white girls except for when we rocked 7th on 6th and stuff. Some of the fascination with South American models helped too- I used to call them the gateway models, lol...
it's funny, but in my business now some of the fashion shows I run, I swear it is an amazing thing sometimes to be a fly on the wall backstage- especially throwing all kinds of girls in the same room together. You know in some ways I think we are definitely advancing on the racial frontiers, but then I'll see something that just seems to point to the sad fact that many of us are really just beginning. and the mindfuggery that gets perpetrated against women is not letting up. to hear some girls candidly discussing their bodies and what they consider attributes and detractions, you would be surprised sometimes. the old maxim, although trite, is really true, the grass is always greener.
One thing that is clearly such a social evil is the sexualization of kids- that to me is a direct result of these videos. It's cracked to see 12 and 13 yr olds grinding and winding.
Originally posted by Donnika:
[qb] the objective of making music is to sell it, and videos aid in the marketing.
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...and music continues to sell less and less and less. Theft is part of the reason. The fact that it isn't worth buying is definitely another. One is lucky to find one good song on an album. The talentless are in place. The talented forgotten...cause they don't 'look the part'. Pure unadulterated poop on a stick...and that's what we hear/watch...poop on a stick.
As for using women...regardless of race...that's been going on since shortly after Adam and Eve linked up with a snake [aka lawyer/business tycoon]. That that is all music has going for it now speaks VOLUMES.
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