Cham Ghetto story

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Re: Cham Ghetto story

Edith Dalton-James school was around the corner back of Salkey.
Mr.Young the shop proprietor on Longfellow got his quotas of gun shots and survived every one of them, better than any thick skinned crocodile.
The road was relatively quiet though.

[una nina]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

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One of my best male friends used to BLAST this in his car all the time...I LOVED the riddem (turn it up LOUD and just riiide de riddem!!!) but it seemed so violent to me, still. I know he is talking about things of the past, but also he's saying they are now the ones with the "heat"...

Don't you think this is supporting more crime and violence? Just a question....

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no, and for lack of a better term .... this is a Jamaican thing.. you would not even begin to overstand the song unless you have experienced in reality the anarchy of election time in Jamaica or the attitude of individuals so blinded by party politics they will do all manner of crazyness, Jah Youth made a good anology to the Rwanda incident, not on that scale but those group of roving gangs were just as crazy. Maybe someone can try to explain it but it will an exercise in futility, unless you really lived it and understand the history of politics in jamaica it just dont do it any justice. It is not just lyrics of the song that Jamaicans repond to so strongly, but the actual events of that year and afterwards, which resulted in the mass migration and so many of us now living overseas. The fact you ask that question shows you just dont get it.

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Duely noted Kingston20...a Jamaican ting dat. I DO know that Jamaica has had a LONG history of corrupt politics (as in America, but concerning Jamaican issues) and I know that it was around this time that some political groups aligned themselves with certain drug posses and there was a LOT of Black on Black violence on innocent people...times were dangerous and tough...I also understand that the lyrics brings back memories of these times...but I'll "butt out" as you so nicely put it! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70374-lipsrsealed.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70456-eyebrows.gif[/img]

[tsophra]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

the lyric an de video so sweet..mi have to poas dem again

http://muzikmedia.com/videotop.aspx

Intro]
This a survival story, True ghetto story
This is my story, Real ghetto story
Hey

[Verse 1]
I remember those days when Hell was my home
When Me and Mama bed was a big piece a foam
An mi never like bathe and my hair never comb
When Mama gone a work me go street go roam
I remember when Danny dem tek me snow cone
An mek him likkle bredda dem kick up Jerome
I remember when we visit dem wid pure big stone
An the boy Danny pop out something weh full chrome
I remember when we run, Fatta get him knee blown
An mi best friend Richie get, two inna him dome
I remember so the avenue tun inna warzone
An ,Mickey madda fly him out, cau she get a loan
But, Mickey go to foreign and go tun Al Capone
Mek whole heap a money and sen in our own
Now a we a lock the city and, that is well known
Yesterday Mickey call me pan mi phone
Mi say Mickey.....

[Chorus]
Wi get di ting dem
Dem outta luck now
Mi squeeze seven and the whole a dem a duck now
Wi have whole heap a extra clip cau we nuh bruk now
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah
Wi get di ting dem, So dem haffi rate wi
Cau we a tek it to them wicked of lately
And now the whole community a live greatly
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah

[Verse 2]
I remember bout '80, Jamaica explode
When a Trinity and Tony Hewitt dem a run road
That a long before Laing dem and even Bigga Ford
When Adams dem a Corporal nuh know the road code
I remember when we rob the chiney shop down the road
An rumour have it sey the chiney man have a sword
But we did have a one pop wey make outta board
So you know the next day mama pot Overlooaad
I remember when we skip the poll clerks
An dump the ballot box pan Tivoli outskirts
An hold a plane ticket and go chill over Turks
When me come back a still inna the hole me a lurk
I remember those days when informer dirks...
Get one inna him face and me nuh get nuh perks
And the bigger heads dem are a couple of jerks
Cause a dem a mek di money, when a wi mash di works

[Chorus]
Wi get di ting dem
Dem outta luck now
Mi squeeze seven and the whole a dem a duck now
Wi have whole heap a extra clip cau we nuh bruk now
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah
Wi get di ting dem, So dem haffi rate wi
Cau we a tek it to them wicked of lately
And now the whole community a live greatly
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah

[Verse 3]
Jamaica get screw, tru greed an glutton
Politics manipulate and press yutes button
But we rich now ,so dem caan tell man notin
Cuz a we a mek Mama a nyaam Fish an Mutton..Ehhhh
Ova dehso mek mi tell unnu some'in...
Tru mi dey a foreign now a guy kill me cousin
An mi here sey TD deh dey but him sey he wasnt
Anytime mi fly down him a get bout dozen....Cause......

[Chorus]
Wi get di ting dem
Dem outta luck now
Mi squeeze seven and the whole a dem a duck now
Wi have whole heap a extra clip cau we nuh bruk now
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah
Wi get di ting dem, So dem haffi rate wi
Cau we a tek it to them wicked of lately
And now the whole community a live greatly
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah

[Verse 1]
I remember those days when Hell was my home
When Me and Mama bed was a big piece a foam
An mi never like bathe and my hair never comb
When Mama gone a work me go street go roam
I remember when Danny dem tek me snow cone
An mek him likkle bredda dem kick up Jerome
I remember when we visit dem wid pure big stone
An the boy Danny pop out something weh full chrome
I remember when we run, Fatta get him knee blown
An mi best friend Richie get, two inna him dome
I remember so the avenue tun inna warzone
An ,Mickey madda fly him out, cau she get a loan
But, Mickey go to foreign and go tun Al Capone
Mek whole heap a money and sen in our own
Now a we a lock the city and, that is well known
Yesterday mickey call me pan mi phone
Mi say mickey.....

[una nina]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

I know I promised K20 that I would "butt out" because everyone was reminiscing but...why hasn't anyone addressed the issue of violence for common material gain (and no REAL POLITICAL/ECONOMIC/SOCIAL POWER FOR THE PEOPLE) in this song? Again the refrain:

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Wi get di ting dem
Dem outta luck now
Mi squeeze seven and the whole a dem a duck now
Wi have whole heap a extra clip cau we nuh bruk now
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah
Wi get di ting dem, So dem haffi rate wi
Cau we a tek it to them wicked of lately
And now the whole community a live greatly
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah


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there's more:

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Jamaica get screw, tru greed an glutton
Politics manipulate and press yutes button
But we rich now ,so dem caan tell man notin
Cuz a we a mek Mama a nyaam Fish an Mutton..Ehhhh

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WHAT ABOUT REAL POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Hopyoneson]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

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Edith Dalton-James school was around the corner back of Salkey.
Mr.Young the shop proprietor on Longfellow got his quotas of gun shots and survived every one of them, better than any thick skinned crocodile.
The road was relatively quiet though.

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Edith Dalton James was the school the teachers used to scare us when taking common entrance exam, I may have known Mr. Young [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

[tsophra]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

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I know I promised K20 that I would "butt out" because everyone was reminiscing but...why hasn't anyone addressed the issue of violence for common material gain (and no REAL POLITICAL/ECONOMIC/SOCIAL POWER FOR THE PEOPLE) in this song? Again the refrain:

[ QUOTE ]
Wi get di ting dem
Dem outta luck now
Mi squeeze seven and the whole a dem a duck now
Wi have whole heap a extra clip cau we nuh bruk now
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah
Wi get di ting dem, So dem haffi rate wi
Cau we a tek it to them wicked of lately
And now the whole community a live greatly
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah


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there's more:

[ QUOTE ]
Jamaica get screw, tru greed an glutton
Politics manipulate and press yutes button
But we rich now ,so dem caan tell man notin
Cuz a we a mek Mama a nyaam Fish an Mutton..Ehhhh

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WHAT ABOUT REAL POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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yu know what.. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70402-thinking.gif[/img] to me this song is like Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" yes it has more violence but that is a part of the reality..its not advocating it..its already there. THere are plenty of discussions that focus on the things you've mentioned..but this isn't one of those threads [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

eta: and no i wasn't there in the 80's..nevertheless the images in the song resonates with me

[jah_yout]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

[ QUOTE ]
I know I promised K20 that I would "butt out" because everyone was reminiscing but...why hasn't anyone addressed the issue of violence for common material gain (and no REAL POLITICAL/ECONOMIC/SOCIAL POWER FOR THE PEOPLE) in this song? Again the refrain:

[ QUOTE ]
Wi get di ting dem
Dem outta luck now
Mi squeeze seven and the whole a dem a duck now
Wi have whole heap a extra clip cau we nuh bruk now
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah
Wi get di ting dem, So dem haffi rate wi
Cau we a tek it to them wicked of lately
And now the whole community a live greatly
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah


[/ QUOTE ]

there's more:

[ QUOTE ]
Jamaica get screw, tru greed an glutton
Politics manipulate and press yutes button
But we rich now ,so dem caan tell man notin
Cuz a we a mek Mama a nyaam Fish an Mutton..Ehhhh

[/ QUOTE ]

WHAT ABOUT REAL POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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nina i can feel what you are saying...
& re what arjen said...this song does NOT remind me of grandmaster flash's 'the message'...which was more of a narrative on what they saw...where as cham's 'ghetto story' is a tale more pro-active...they took up guns;
but in the end it's just more ghetto violence & not a long term solution...

[jah_yout]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

to me ghetto story still couldn't test a song like supercat's 'cry fi di youth' or 'under pressure' for sheer emotion as the voice of the sufferah...to me the subliminal message in 'ghetto story' is that things change now because we have wi gun dem...

[una nina]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

Thank you, Jah Yout, I thought it was just me. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70374-lipsrsealed.gif[/img]

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Cham Ghetto story

[ QUOTE ]
I know I promised K20 that I would "butt out" because everyone was reminiscing but...why hasn't anyone addressed the issue of violence for common material gain (and no REAL POLITICAL/ECONOMIC/SOCIAL POWER FOR THE PEOPLE) in this song? Again the refrain:

[ QUOTE ]
Wi get di ting dem
Dem outta luck now
Mi squeeze seven and the whole a dem a duck now
Wi have whole heap a extra clip cau we nuh bruk now
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah
Wi get di ting dem, So dem haffi rate wi
Cau we a tek it to them wicked of lately
And now the whole community a live greatly
Rah...Rah..Rah...Rah


[/ QUOTE ]

there's more:

[ QUOTE ]
Jamaica get screw, tru greed an glutton
Politics manipulate and press yutes button
But we rich now ,so dem caan tell man notin
Cuz a we a mek Mama a nyaam Fish an Mutton..Ehhhh

[/ QUOTE ]

WHAT ABOUT REAL POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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You have to play by the rules of the game. I think for me Ghetto Story sums it up...We get the ting dem.