The Lost Tomb of Jesus

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Documentary claiming to have discovered the family tomb of Yashua, from which the infamous Ossuary of James was taken and separated from the rest...

part one:
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<span style="font-style: italic">“JESUS TOMB” CONTROVERSY ERUPTS—AGAIN

15 Scholars Protest “Vindication” Claim
The Talpiot Tomb Controversy Revisited
January 23, 2008
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A firestorm has broken out in Jerusalem following the conclusion of the “Third Princeton Theological Seminary Symposium on Jewish Views of the Afterlife and Burial Practices in Second Temple Judaism: Evaluating the Talpiot Tomb in Context.” Most negative assessments of archaeologists and other scientists and scholars who attended have been excluded from the final press reports. Instead the media have presented the views of Simcha Jacobovici, who produced the controversial film and book “The Lost Tomb of Jesus” with Hollywood director James Cameron, and who claims that his identification has been vindicated by the conference papers. Nothing further from the truth can be deduced from the discussion and presentations that took place on January 13-17, 2008.

A statistical analysis of the names engraved on the ossuaries leaves no doubt that the probability of the Talpiot tomb belonging to Jesus’ family is virtually nil if the Mariamene named on one of the ossuaries is not Mary Magdalene. Even the reading of the inscribed name as “Mariamene” was contested by epigraphers at the conference. Furthermore, Mary Magdalene is not referred to by the Greek name Mariamene in any literary sources before the late second-third century AD. An expert panel of scholars on the subject of Mary in the early church dismissed out of hand the suggestion that Mary Magdalene was married to Jesus, and no traditions refer to a son of Jesus named Judah (another individual named on an ossuary from the Talpiot tomb). Moreover, the DNA evidence from the tomb, which has been used to suggest that Jesus had a wife, was dismissed by the Hebrew University team that devised such procedures and has conducted such research all over the world. The ossuary inscribed with the name “Jesus son of Joseph” is paralleled by a find from another Jerusalem tomb, and at least one speaker said the reading of the name “Jesus” on the Talpiot tomb ossuary is uncertain. Testimony from archaeologists who were involved in the excavation of the Talpiot tomb leaves no doubt that the “missing” tenth ossuary was plain and uninscribed, eliminating any possibility that it is the so-called “James ossuary.”

The identification of the Talpiot tomb as the tomb of Jesus’ family flies in the face of the canonical Gospel accounts, which are the earliest traditions describing Jesus’ death and burial. According to these accounts Jesus’ body was placed in the tomb of a prominent follower named Joseph of Arimathea. Since at least the early fourth century Christians have venerated the site of Jesus’ burial at the spot marked by the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. In contrast, not a single tradition, Christian or otherwise, preserves any reference to or recollection of a family tomb of Jesus anywhere in Jerusalem.

The smoking gun at the conference was the surprise appearance of Ruth Gat, the widow of the archaeologist who excavated the tomb in 1980 and has since passed away. Mrs. Gat announced that her husband had known about the identification all along but was afraid to tell anyone because of the possibility of an anti-Semitic reaction. However, Joseph Gat lacked the expertise to read the inscriptions. Jacobovici now says that Mrs. Gat’s statement has vindicated his claims about the tomb.

To conclude, we wish to protest the misrepresentation of the conference proceedings in the media, and make it clear that the majority of scholars in attendance—including all of the archaeologists and epigraphers who presented papers relating to the tomb—either reject the identification of the Talpiot tomb as belonging to Jesus’ family or find this claim highly speculative.

Sincerely,

Professor Mordechai Aviam, University of Rochester

Professor Ann Brock, Iliffe School of Theology, University of Denver

Professor F.W. Dobbs-Allsopp, Princeton Theological Seminary

Professor C.D. Elledge, Gustavus Adolphus College

Professor Shimon Gibson, University of North Carolina at Charlotte

Professor Rachel Hachlili, University of Haifa

Professor Amos Kloner, Bar-Ilan University

Professor Jodi Magness, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Professor Lee McDonald, Arcadia Seminary

Professor Eric M. Meyers, Duke University

Professor Stephen Pfann, University of the Holy Land

Professor Jonathan Price, Tel Aviv University

Professor Christopher Rollston, Emmanuel School of Religion

Professor Choon-Leong Seow, Princeton Theological Seminary

Mr. Joe Zias, Science and Antiquity Group, Jerusalem</span>

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<span style="font-style: italic">The Vindication Claim
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Princeton Conference Vindicates Associated Producers James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici on “Lost Tomb of Jesus”
JERUSALEM, ISRAEL—(Marketwire - Jan. 16, 2008) - Late Wednesday, at the closing session of a conference sponsored by the Princeton Theological Seminary which considered the headline grabbing claims made last year in a documentary film and book that the tomb of Jesus and his family have been found, the widow of archaeologist Yosef Gat, Ruth, rocked the proceedings.

Ruth Gat attended the Princeton conference to accept a posthumous lifetime achievement award for her husband, a major figure in Biblical archaeology. As top scholars from around the world listened she stated, “My husband, the lead archaeologist of the East Talpiot tomb in southern Jerusalem, believed that the tomb he excavated in 1980 was, indeed, the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth and his family.” Gat’s widow said that her husband believed that the bone boxes that he removed from the tomb contained the mortal remains of Jesus, Mary, Mary Magdalene and Judah, son of Jesus. “The reason he never published his opinion,” she said “was because, as a Holocaust survivor, he feared that the announcement might spark anti-Semitism around the world. As a result, he took his secret to the grave.”

Gat’s widow also stated that she was happy that the world has become a more civilized place and that Gat’s opinions could finally be aired at a scholarly conference and in an atmosphere of reasonable debate.

The Princeton conference proved to be a scholarly re-assessment of the evidence. Until now, international perception of the academic consensus has been that the Talpiot tomb “could not be” the Jesus family tomb. In contrast, 50 of the top scholars in the world now concluded that the Talpiot tomb “might very possibly be” the tomb of the “Holy family.” Although some academics continue to deny the possibility, leading New Testament scholars such as Professor Jane Schaberg (Mercy), Professor Claude Cohen-Matlofsky (University of Toronto), Israel Knohl (Hebrew University) and Professor James Tabor (University of North Carolina at Charlotte) all indicated that they thought it was “likely” that the Talpiot tomb was indeed the lost tomb of Jesus.

Another revelation concerned Andrey Feuerverger, Professor of Mathematics and Statistics from the University of Toronto, who had done the initial statistical study that concluded a 600:1 probability in favor of the tomb being the Jesus family tomb. At the conference, Professor Feuerverger revealed for the first time that his statistical model has now been peer-reviewed and accepted by the leading statistical journal Annals of Applied Statistics and will be published in their first issue of 2008 in February.

The conference concluded with a unanimous vote to empower Prof. James Charlesworth of Princeton to head an archaeological team for the purpose of re-investigating the Talpiot Tomb site.

Reached in Jerusalem, director/author Simcha Jacobovici said, “we feel totally vindicated. My work with James Cameron was the catalyst for an international symposium that has finally considered the evidence and is opening the door for further research. It’s time that the world seriously considered that the Jesus family tomb may very well have been located.”</span>

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let's just say i'm extremely skeptical