Did Adam have a belly button?

[mountaingal]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

couple of oonu pointed out the photoshopping of some man face onto the creature in the van der Goes painting, but mi surprised (or maybe not )nobaddy never comment on the creepiness of the original image.



the creature tempting eve is supposed to be a salamander with the head of a girl, whose hair has been braided at the top into the shape of two horns.

apparently, there is some long-standing mythology behind the use of a girl's face for such purposes, but danged if i could find any reference.

anyway, the reason for using a salamander shape is that apparently God cursed the snake to forever slither on the ground, so therefore, the snake must have had legs before. also, in mythology, salamanders were thought to be toxic, and that any tree dem touch the fruit would be poisonous.

[mountaingal]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tulip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, nice paintings. <span style="font-weight: bold"> Noticed Eve was consistently heavy in the abdomen.</span>

With what we know about navels, then no Adam should not have had one or Eve either for that matter based on them being built from either dirt or a rib.

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i believe the ideal of feminine beauty at the time included a swollen belly - remember reading that somewhere. not sure why, read a bit of an unconvincing theory that the painters intended to eroticize the female figure by hinting at pregnancy.

other eves from olden days:
unknown artist


by Lucas Cranach the elder


by Jan van Eyck


and a Prudence, by Hans Baldung

[Compry]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i believe the ideal of feminine beauty at the time included a swollen belly - remember reading that somewhere. not sure why, read a bit of an unconvincing theory that the painters intended to eroticize the female figure by hinting at pregnancy.

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Maybe that ties in with the command in Genesis 1:28, &quot;And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth&quot;...perhaps?

[mountaingal]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Compray</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i believe the ideal of feminine beauty at the time included a swollen belly - remember reading that somewhere. not sure why, read a bit of an unconvincing theory that the painters intended to eroticize the female figure by hinting at pregnancy.

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Maybe that ties in with the command in Genesis 1:28, &quot;And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth&quot;...perhaps? </div></div>

maybe. sounds feasible.

[Tulip]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

OK, that makes some sense.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Compray</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i believe the ideal of feminine beauty at the time included a swollen belly - remember reading that somewhere. not sure why, read a bit of an unconvincing theory that the painters intended to eroticize the female figure by hinting at pregnancy.

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Maybe that ties in with the command in Genesis 1:28, &quot;And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth&quot;...perhaps? </div></div>

maybe. sounds feasible. </div></div>

[neutral]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Compray</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Compray</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To my knowledge the Bible does not state whether or not Adam and Eve had belly buttons. </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Who cares what the bible may have stated</span> about adam`s belly button or not ,...the point is,if you (and I am sure you do)believe that adam was the first man then how do you explain him being depicted as having a belly button when he was not supposed to have had an umbilical cord given the way in which he was created.....eeeenhh ansah me dat.

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Ok,let me re-phrase the question,do you yourself think that they should be shown in paintings as having navels given the way in which they were created....?

OK...we are talking about Adam &amp; Eve right? I do believe they are introduced to us via the Bible and the Bible does not talk about their belly buttons as far as I know. </div></div>

[neutral]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tulip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, nice paintings. Noticed Eve was consistently heavy in the abdomen.


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Maybe because the painting shows them at the early stage where they havent started having sex regularly as yet,...maybe she started shedding the pounds later when adam start to work off those extra calories off her.

[Magician]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and does indeed show adam with an impressive belly button.
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Did you measure it's position to see if Adam was a good sprinter?

[Peasie]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magix</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and does indeed show adam with an impressive belly button.
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Did you measure it's position to see if Adam was a good sprinter? </div></div>


But how to explain Eve's belly button? Adam nevah aim right?

[mountaingal]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magix</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and does indeed show adam with an impressive belly button.
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Did you measure it's position to see if Adam was a good sprinter? </div></div>
say what now?

[Compry]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

Natral, I have already given my opinion. Now since you do not believe in the Bible, I imagine you don't believe that Adam was the first man in that beginning. So Natral, who was the first man and did he have a belly button?

[Compry]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magix</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and does indeed show adam with an impressive belly button.
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Did you measure it's position to see if Adam was a good sprinter? </div></div>
say what now? </div></div>

I am glad somebody asked.

[CeaBee]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

pz doan have nuh sense

[Peasie]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CeaBee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> pz doan have nuh sense</div></div>

Finally. The only fact in this thread!

[neutral]

Re: Did Adam have a belly button?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Compray</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Natral, I have already given my opinion. Now since you do not believe in the Bible, I imagine you don't believe that Adam was the first man in that beginning. So Natral, who was the first man and did he have a belly button? </div></div>

Compray,you are correct,I dont believe whatever is written in the bible,and certainly dont believe the fantastical notion of adam and eve,there has been absolutely no credible evidence to support anything written in the bible,and no credible evidence to support the notion that the human race was started by adam and eve,who was fashioned from dirt by some &quot;god&quot;.
I believe in the evolution of man,we have evolved from hominids, and there have been credible scientific study of differing disciplines which also entails anthropology,genetics,primatology,and genetics,to support the case for the evolution of mankind.
As for the belly button question, my personal opinion is that YES,the first man/woman would have a belly button,because the only way we can be produced is via the umbilical cord.