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Can we identify any definite fulfillment of biblical prophesy that occurred after the writing of the bible?
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we identify any definite fulfillment of biblical prophesy that occurred after the writing of the bible? </div></div>
Daniel 2; 7; 9.
Matt. 24.
Rev: several chapters are being fulfill as we speak
There tons of them. if read the bible and watch the news you should see them.
Isa.
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
those links you provided don't work:
daniel 2;7;9
Matt.24.comComment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
depends how you look at it...
it also said somewhere in the bible that there is nothing new under the sun;
humanity has had the same issues since forever...
you dabble in the bible so you know-
war, poverty, injustice, greed, slavery, disease, hate, love, longing, redemption, triumph, defeat, deceit, political intrigue...
it's all there in 'the bible' (a collection of books)
the more things change the more they stay the sameComment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we identify any definite fulfillment of biblical prophesy that occurred after the writing of the bible? </div></div>
Daniel 2; 7; 9.
Matt. 24.
Rev: several chapters are being fulfill as we speak
There tons of them. if read the bible and watch the news you should see them.
Isa.
Ezk. </div></div>
Thank you, this is why I ask for specifics. The problem with giving out huge tracts to read, is that it provides enough scope to interpret whatever is convenient to the argument (aka esegesis).
For instance, let us look at Daniel 2. It speaks of a coming time where a Kingdom of God will come and destroy all other kingdoms, and last forever ( (reference 1).
For context, I am also referring to the entire chapter 2 (reference 2)
Can you state with some kind of real-world certainty that this has already happened?Comment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we identify any definite fulfillment of biblical prophesy that occurred after the writing of the bible? </div></div>
Daniel 2; 7; 9.
Matt. 24.
Rev: several chapters are being fulfill as we speak
There tons of them. if read the bible and watch the news you should see them.
Isa.
Ezk. </div></div>
Thank you, this is why I ask for specifics. The problem with giving out huge tracts to read, is that it provides enough scope to interpret whatever is convenient to the argument (aka esegesis).
For instance, let us look at Daniel 2. It speaks of a coming time where a Kingdom of God will come and destroy all other kingdoms, and last forever ( (reference 1).
For context, I am also referring to the entire chapter 2 (reference 2)
Can you state with some kind of real-world certainty that this has already happened? </div></div>
u know i argue from the point of view that while u read the OT to see the workings of God wid his chosen people, the real reference point for Christians is the NT....after all JC said He came to fulfill the OT and to show the Way to Sonship...so the OT has its part as a point of reference but to moi the emphasis for believers is the NT...after all the NT harkens bak to the OT where necessary to show how the fulfillment isComment
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u know dere is <span style="font-weight: bold">prophesy vs predictive prophesy? </span> r u therefore asking about predictive prophesy...i ask because i am going over my book on Biblical Hermeneutics and there is a chapter which deals wid dis issue...mi done wid mi Bible study fi di nite so mi wi chek een tomorra n if not , di nex day
if any interest is there let me know n i will share wat it saysComment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we identify any definite fulfillment of biblical prophesy that occurred after the writing of the bible? </div></div>
I can think of one really clear non-fulfillment of Biblical prophesy... and that is:
Mark 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Luke 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Matthew:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.Comment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we identify any definite fulfillment of biblical prophesy that occurred after the writing of the bible? </div></div>
Daniel 2; 7; 9.
Matt. 24.
Rev: several chapters are being fulfill as we speak
There tons of them. if read the bible and watch the news you should see them.
Isa.
Ezk. </div></div>
Thank you, this is why I ask for specifics. The problem with giving out huge tracts to read, is that it provides enough scope to interpret whatever is convenient to the argument (aka esegesis).
For instance, let us look at Daniel 2. It speaks of a coming time where a Kingdom of God will come and destroy all other kingdoms, and last forever ( (reference 1).
For context, I am also referring to the entire chapter 2 (reference 2)
Can you state with some kind of real-world certainty that this has already happened? </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">u know i argue from the point of view that while u read the OT to see the workings of God wid his chosen people, the real reference point for Christians is the NT....after all JC said He came to fulfill the OT and to show the Way to Sonship...so the OT has its part as a point of reference but to moi the emphasis for believers is the NT...after all the NT harkens bak to the OT where necessary to show how the fulfillment is </div></div>
Ok, so does that mean that the prophesy in the OT has already been revealed in the NT? If so, what about fulfillment of prophesy in the NT? Do we have anything that we can point to specifically that we can say "yes - that specific event was THE fulfillment of Book/Chapter/Verse"?Comment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we identify any definite fulfillment of biblical prophesy that occurred after the writing of the bible? </div></div>
Daniel 2; 7; 9.
Matt. 24.
Rev: several chapters are being fulfill as we speak
There tons of them. if read the bible and watch the news you should see them.
Isa.
Ezk. </div></div>
Thank you, this is why I ask for specifics. The problem with giving out huge tracts to read, is that it provides enough scope to interpret whatever is convenient to the argument (aka esegesis).
For instance, let us look at Daniel 2. It speaks of a coming time where a Kingdom of God will come and destroy all other kingdoms, and last forever ( (reference 1).
For context, I am also referring to the entire chapter 2 (reference 2)
Can you state with some kind of real-world certainty that this has already happened? </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">u know i argue from the point of view that while u read the OT to see the workings of God wid his chosen people, the real reference point for Christians is the NT....after all JC said He came to fulfill the OT and to show the Way to Sonship...so the OT has its part as a point of reference but to moi the emphasis for believers is the NT...after all the NT harkens bak to the OT where necessary to show how the fulfillment is </div></div>
Ok, so does that mean that the prophesy in the OT has already been revealed in the NT? If so, what about fulfillment of prophesy in the NT? Do we have anything that we can point to specifically that we can say "yes - that specific event was THE fulfillment of Book/Chapter/Verse"? </div></div>
of course...the ultimate fulfillment was the coming of Christ...look how many verses in the OT alluded to this event...wat more dan dat is of importComment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
The Jews do not believe the Messiah has come yet.
They wrote the Old Testament.
They should know.Comment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Jews do not believe the Messiah has come yet.
They wrote the Old Testament.
They should know.
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the Jews claim ongle 5 chapters and they dont claim to have written them...they also claim them to be the Word of God...that they continue to await a Messiah who fits their bill is their choiceComment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Jews do not believe the Messiah has come yet.
They wrote the Old Testament.
They should know.
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the Jews claim ongle 5 chapters and they dont claim to have written them...they also claim them to be the Word of God...that they continue to await a Messiah who fits their bill is their choice </div></div>
Evan.....There were ONLY Jews and pagans before the new testament.
So WHO did write all that?
Humanity was not changed by the alleged presence of the son of God on the Earth.
and as soon as he made his first sermon, the Jewish messiah would be shot by the IDF (crucifixion is not in style) and it would be deja vu all over again.Comment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[There were ONLY Jews and pagans before the new testament.
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you mean according to the hebrews, right?Comment
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Re: Biblical Prophesy - A question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[There were ONLY Jews and pagans before the new testament.
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you mean according to the hebrews, right?
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I'm talking about what was going on in the Middle East, the Holyland before the (alleged) birth of Christ.
Everything here relates to the Old and New Testicles
The main religion in the area and amongst the Bible writers then was Judaism since the Old Testament is all Judaic and the New Tentacle is all Christian.Comment
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