The Fool and God

[foolya]

The foola says in his heart,

“There is no God.”

They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good, not even one.

Will evildoers never learn—

those who devour my people as men eat bread

and who do not call on the Lord?

[johnnycakes]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The foola says in his heart,

“There is no God.”

They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good, not even one.

Will evildoers never learn—


and who do not call on the Lord? </div></div>


Foolya,

Can you put this into plain English or explain in greater detail what you mean??


Who 'Is corrupt&quot;, whose &quot;deeds are vile&quot;, what are those deeds? What is the corruption?

What does this mean: &quot;those who devour my people as men eat bread&quot;?

[freedom-man]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The foola says in his heart,

“There is no God.”

They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good, not even one.

Will evildoers never learn—

those who devour my people as men eat bread

and who do not call on the Lord? </div></div>


so where is the physical existence of your god? do you have any pictures of him? do you have any special instruments to detect him?



name one moral action that ONLY believers in your god CAN do that athiests CANNOT do?

[f0rTyLeGz]

Re: The Fool and God

Johnny and ChineseJ... foolya has never spoken, or commented. He's like the guy screaming on the corner with the long beard, and ratty clothes, who is yelling at the passerby, &quot;Repent! The end is near!&quot;

[neutral]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">



some hypocrites who say they believe in a &quot;god&quot; are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good, not even one.

Will evildoers never learn—

</div></div>

Amen brother !

[johnnycakes]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">



some hypocrites who say they believe in a &quot;god&quot; are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good, not even one.

Will evildoers never learn—

</div></div>

Amen brother ! </div></div>




Thanks Natral, If, indeed, this is what Foolya meant to say.

[jah_yout]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... foolya has never spoken, or commented. He's like the guy screaming on the corner with the long beard, and ratty clothes, who is yelling at the passerby, &quot;Repent! The end is near!&quot; </div></div>



sounds a lot like Chinese Jamaican...except he shouts &quot;wake up! we are here as a result of a miraculous random accident!&quot;

[johnnycakes]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... foolya has never spoken, or commented. He's like the guy screaming on the corner with the long beard, and ratty clothes, who is yelling at the passerby, &quot;Repent! The end is near!&quot; </div></div>



sounds a lot like Chinese Jamaican...except he shouts &quot;wake up! we are here as a result of a miraculous random accident!&quot; </div></div>


j_y,

I would say that CJ believes as many of us atheists do that although at this point in time we cannot say what created life or how it came to be, that evolution puts to the lie the Biblical theory of creation and the belief in magic as the answer is illogical.

Just because we do not know now what created life on the planet does not mean that we will not know at some time in the future.

Atheists simply do not believe in magic. To say that we believe that a &quot;miraculous random accident&quot; is what created life is close to the truth.

The planet is very old in our view of time; hundreds of millions of years. And in that time which the human mind cannot even comprehend because it is so vast, the chemical soup that were the oceans, the cosmic rays, heat, cold, lightning and innumerable other factors are indeed more likely to have created life than an invisible and magic being.

We are all made up of the same elements as the Earth. There is nothing in the human body that isn't in the ground, the oceans.
It is not as if a god created the planet and then created man out of something different.
We are a product of our hundreds of millions of year old environment.

We are one with Earth and not just something magically placed upon the planet.


IMO IMO IMO

[johnnycakes]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... foolya has never spoken, or commented. He's like the guy screaming on the corner with the long beard, and ratty clothes, who is yelling at the passerby, &quot;Repent! The end is near!&quot; </div></div>



sounds a lot like Chinese Jamaican...except he shouts &quot;wake up! we are here as a result of a miraculous random accident!&quot; </div></div>


j_y,

I would say that CJ believes as many of us atheists do that although at this point in time we cannot say what created life or how it came to be, that evolution puts to the lie the Biblical theory of creation and the belief in magic as the answer is illogical.

Just because we do not know now what created life on the planet does not mean that we will not know at some time in the future.

Atheists simply do not believe in magic. To say that we believe that a &quot;miraculous random accident&quot; is what created life is close to the truth.

The planet is very old in our view of time; hundreds of millions of years. And in that time which the human mind cannot even comprehend because it is so vast, the chemical soup that were the oceans, the cosmic rays, heat, cold, lightning and innumerable other factors are indeed more likely to have created life than an invisible and magic being.

We are all made up of the same elements as the Earth. There is nothing in the human body that isn't in the ground, the oceans.
It is not as if a god created the planet and then created man out of something different.
We are a product of our hundreds of millions of year old environment.

We are one with Earth and not just something magically placed upon the planet.


IMO IMO IMO

[jah_yout]

Re: The Fool and God

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">at this point in time we cannot say what created life or how it came to be</span>,</div></div>

as a fan of logic, your logic escapes me...
you admit you do not know, yet seem to imply that you are sure it was NOT by design...how can you be so sure when you do NOT know...



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that evolution puts to the lie the Biblical theory of creation and the belief in magic as the answer is illogical</div></div>

again i will say it...
creation is not about the bible...
you are stuck on that narrow path...creation can not, will not be confined to one particular text in a world of millions...
repeat after me;
&quot;the bible is not the sole nor definitive story of life's creation&quot;...

what do you think came first- creation or the bible?