The Bible is fit for worship?

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This does not at all point to intelligent design but evolution as the factor that determines what will live and what will die. Hundreds of millions of years of trial and error is what brought all living things to the point they are today and IMO not the instantaneous magic and conjuring of living things by a celestial wizard.</div></div>

what is more magical than super-complex biological systems just happening/appearing?

either way you slice it, it is magical, fantastic...
the bible is obviously a flawed book and certainly not the exact true story of creation...

just as big-bang/spontaneous appearance of life is also a flawed theory and very implausible in explaining life's creation &amp; development....

[johnnycakes]

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j_y:
what is more magical than super-complex biological systems just happening/appearing?


jah-yout,

They did not JUST HAPPEN or suddenly appeared.

The early building blocks such as amino acids developed over the MILLIONS of years and over countless MILLIONS of more years evolved and mutated into what we have today. Evolution is not magic and can clearly be demonstrated, HAS been clearly demonstrated to be how we got here.

Creation has the instantaneous and unlikely genesis you're talking about.

It is said that science sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic (or an act of God) for the unknowing. This appears to still be the case.

[jah_yout]

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cakes i totally disagree...
i believe life IS magical no matter how it started...

life is inherently fantastic/amazing/magical/mind-blowing, etc.

it is a miracle...

to think billions of years of human intelligence &amp; we are nowhere near having the ability to produce a human organism from non-living matter...
that it is this far beyond our present intelligent capacity to operate si very telling...

inventing airplanes &amp; computers was incredible, amazing, etc.;
yet life is infinitely more complex;

perhaps when we do realize how miraculous the life force is we might respect it, ourselves &amp; our planet more


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Evolution is not magic and can clearly be demonstrated, <span style="font-weight: bold">HAS been clearly demonstrated to be how we got here</span></div></div>.


that is patently false...
evolution has never explained how we got here...it has merely theorized that we originate from the same living ancestor as all other living organisms on earth &amp; evolved into our present form...
<span style="font-weight: bold">evolution does not account for origins</span>--- only development;
so you can't say it is 'how we got here'...
<span style="font-weight: bold">you do not know how we got here</span>...(even if you think differently- much like the bible worshipper who swears they know how it all began)
no one has ever captured this magical amino acid that somehow jumps to life

[f0rTyLeGz]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">to think billions of years of human intelligence &amp; we are nowhere near having the ability to produce a human organism from non-living matter...
that it is this far beyond our present intelligent capacity to operate si very telling...</div></div>
Modern humans have been around for 35,000 years. No scientist has proposed that human intelligence has been around for &quot;billions of years.&quot;

One reason many people have a hard time with evolution is because of the vastness of the numbers involved. Recognizable humans have been on the planet for 35,000 years. Pterodactyls flew around in the same skies we live under for 160 MILLION years.

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">to think billions of years of human intelligence &amp; we are nowhere near having the ability to produce a human organism from non-living matter...
that it is this far beyond our present intelligent capacity to operate si very telling...</div></div>
Modern humans have been around for 35,000 years. No scientist has proposed that human intelligence has been around for &quot;billions of years.&quot;

One reason many people have a hard time with evolution is because of the vastness of the numbers involved. Recognizable humans have been on the planet for 35,000 years. Pterodactyls flew around in the same skies we live under for 160 MILLION years. </div></div>

if they know the age of everything then they should be able to pinpoint when, where &amp; how life started...
if they claim a common ancestor, then those things flying around were us before we got to another form...
so if we all evolved from a common form, then that is intelligence in action...
since the act of evolution itself is an intelligent response to environmental stimuli...i.e. how best to utilize physical ability to extract the greatest living benefits from the environment

[f0rTyLeGz]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
so if we all evolved from a common form, then that is intelligence in action...</div></div>
It's an expression of what can happen if the conditions are right over 5 billion years. 5,000 x 1,000,000 years.

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
so if we all evolved from a common form, then that is intelligence in action...</div></div>
It's an expression of what can happen if the conditions are right over 5 billion years. 5,000 x 1,000,000 years. </div></div>

'expression of what can happen'?

LOL...i'd say