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Re: Is God Married?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A body was prepared for him, that was later imbued with him......Avatar a Hindu/Egyptian concept </div></div>
Have you suddenly lost your reading skills, franksterr?
I <span style="font-style: italic">know</span> you are capable of reading comprehension![/quote]
No I am wondering the same of you?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The was no pre-prepared body; there was no later imbuing of a body with Jesus' spirit. I asked you to re-read it, but you obviously did not... unless you suffered a brain burp?</div></div>
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Taking up St. John's expression, "<span style="font-weight: bold">The Word became flesh</span>",82 The Church calls "Incarnation" the fact that the <span style="font-weight: bold">Son of God assumed a human nature</span> in order to accomplish our salvation in it. In a hymn cited by St. Paul, the Church sings the mystery of the Incarnation:
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself,<span style="font-weight: bold"> taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. and being found in human form </span>he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross.83
Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, "Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">but a body have you prepared for me;</span></span></span> in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure. Then I said, Lo, I have come to do your will, O God."84</div></div>
Did you say something about brain burp and reading comprehension???
Whose brain is burping now
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It says "and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man." Jesus took on humanity by becoming fully human Himself. He was born of the Virgin Mary, just as you were born of your mother and me of mine, although neither your mother nor mine were virgins at the time of our births. Jesus was born as a human baby, with His soul, just as we all are - he didn't receive his soul at a point later after His birth. It's not anything like transmigration. </div></div>
How do you know that my mother was not artificially inseminated?
Virgin birth is pretty common among religious figures throughout history
Never said he received his soul later only that his body was prepared for him.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And now you want to discuss avatar. Avatar and transmigration are two different things entirely.</div></div>
To me they are the same...basically a consciousness( spirit) inhabiting a physical body prepared for it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jesus was born as fully human, not as an avatar - an appearance of human. Nor was he transmigrated - he was born as fully human an fully God at the same time, all at once. His soul was intact in His body when he was born, What you, franksterr, are suggesting is the Docetic Heresy, circa 70AD. Did you know that?</div></div>
Yes sometimes Spirits are transmigrated into unborn fetuses, as such that child will be born fully human.
No did not know what kind of heresy it was or is
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Additionally, franksterr, Mr Witchy says that you appear to misunderstand transmigration. You keep talking about talking about a spirit or an entity entering a prepared body at a later date. And you keep saying it's Egyptian.</div></div>
It is African and Egyptian to the core here is one of the foremost Egyptologist on the subject....why do you think they mummified all those bodies????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The widespread belief in a single creator God, immortality, transmigration of souls and transubstantiation</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Egyptian belief was that the soul would return to it's original body; that's why they mummified. They believed that the soul an the body could separate, but they expected the would to return to it's original body. Transmigration is not Egyptian.</div></div>
Horus is Osiris reborn as the Son of Himself Osiris and Isis.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The passing of souls into successive bodily forms, either human or animal. According to Pythagoras, <span style="font-weight: bold">who probably learned the doctrine in Egypt,</span> the rational mind (&#968;&#961;&#942;&#957
, after having been freed from the chains of the body, assumes an ethereal vehicle, and passes into the region of the dead, where it remains till it is sent back to this world to inhabit some other body, human or animal. After undergoing successive purgations, and when it is sufficiently purified, it is received among the gods, and returns to the eternal source from which it first proceeded.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The peoples who do believe in transmigration were some Greeks, Hindus, some Jews, some Buddhists, and others. BUT, while the Hindus were and are the biggest believers in transmigration, they believe that a soul is born into a new body, not going into a prepared body.</div></div>
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I'm not too sure what you're trying to say here???
<span style="color: #FF0000">Dogma is defined as a belief or a code of beliefs.</span>
<span style="color: #FF0000">Catechism is defined as a summary of beliefs </span>of Christianity in the form of questions and answers, and is used for teaching.</div></div>
Please the above in red shows how close they are in meaning - basically a set of beliefs.
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Absolutely NOT!!!
Jesus was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of he Virgin Mary, and born man. (human - fully human, as well as fully deity)
Catechism of the Catholic Church
-- PART ONE: THE PROFESSION OF FAITH
-- SECTION TWO I. THE CREEDS
-- CHAPTER TWO I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD
-- Article 3 "HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND WAS BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY"
-- Paragraph 2. "CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY</div></div>
Yeah I know that is what you believe, so as it is a matter of faith to you..... I will accept it as such.
But the word of God which most accept that the bible is and I use as the final authority on things religious seem to disagree with what you have posted above. I give more credit or weight to the bible than to the word of men...on that you and I differ.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You yourself quoted it. It does NOT say "Begotten sons of God".
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial
with the Father;
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate
of the Virgin Mary,
and became man</div></div>
We are all the sons and daughters of God, and we have already agreed that only Adam & Eve where made.....hence we were all begotten of God as the bible further states that he is our Father.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A body was prepared for him, that was later imbued with him......Avatar a Hindu/Egyptian concept </div></div>
Have you suddenly lost your reading skills, franksterr?
I <span style="font-style: italic">know</span> you are capable of reading comprehension![/quote]
No I am wondering the same of you?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The was no pre-prepared body; there was no later imbuing of a body with Jesus' spirit. I asked you to re-read it, but you obviously did not... unless you suffered a brain burp?</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Taking up St. John's expression, "<span style="font-weight: bold">The Word became flesh</span>",82 The Church calls "Incarnation" the fact that the <span style="font-weight: bold">Son of God assumed a human nature</span> in order to accomplish our salvation in it. In a hymn cited by St. Paul, the Church sings the mystery of the Incarnation:
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself,<span style="font-weight: bold"> taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. and being found in human form </span>he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross.83
Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, "Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">but a body have you prepared for me;</span></span></span> in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure. Then I said, Lo, I have come to do your will, O God."84</div></div>
Did you say something about brain burp and reading comprehension???
Whose brain is burping now
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It says "and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man." Jesus took on humanity by becoming fully human Himself. He was born of the Virgin Mary, just as you were born of your mother and me of mine, although neither your mother nor mine were virgins at the time of our births. Jesus was born as a human baby, with His soul, just as we all are - he didn't receive his soul at a point later after His birth. It's not anything like transmigration. </div></div>
How do you know that my mother was not artificially inseminated?
Virgin birth is pretty common among religious figures throughout history
Never said he received his soul later only that his body was prepared for him.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And now you want to discuss avatar. Avatar and transmigration are two different things entirely.</div></div>
To me they are the same...basically a consciousness( spirit) inhabiting a physical body prepared for it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jesus was born as fully human, not as an avatar - an appearance of human. Nor was he transmigrated - he was born as fully human an fully God at the same time, all at once. His soul was intact in His body when he was born, What you, franksterr, are suggesting is the Docetic Heresy, circa 70AD. Did you know that?</div></div>
Yes sometimes Spirits are transmigrated into unborn fetuses, as such that child will be born fully human.
No did not know what kind of heresy it was or is
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Additionally, franksterr, Mr Witchy says that you appear to misunderstand transmigration. You keep talking about talking about a spirit or an entity entering a prepared body at a later date. And you keep saying it's Egyptian.</div></div>
It is African and Egyptian to the core here is one of the foremost Egyptologist on the subject....why do you think they mummified all those bodies????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The widespread belief in a single creator God, immortality, transmigration of souls and transubstantiation</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Egyptian belief was that the soul would return to it's original body; that's why they mummified. They believed that the soul an the body could separate, but they expected the would to return to it's original body. Transmigration is not Egyptian.</div></div>
Horus is Osiris reborn as the Son of Himself Osiris and Isis.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The passing of souls into successive bodily forms, either human or animal. According to Pythagoras, <span style="font-weight: bold">who probably learned the doctrine in Egypt,</span> the rational mind (&#968;&#961;&#942;&#957
, after having been freed from the chains of the body, assumes an ethereal vehicle, and passes into the region of the dead, where it remains till it is sent back to this world to inhabit some other body, human or animal. After undergoing successive purgations, and when it is sufficiently purified, it is received among the gods, and returns to the eternal source from which it first proceeded.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The peoples who do believe in transmigration were some Greeks, Hindus, some Jews, some Buddhists, and others. BUT, while the Hindus were and are the biggest believers in transmigration, they believe that a soul is born into a new body, not going into a prepared body.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I'm not too sure what you're trying to say here???
<span style="color: #FF0000">Dogma is defined as a belief or a code of beliefs.</span>
<span style="color: #FF0000">Catechism is defined as a summary of beliefs </span>of Christianity in the form of questions and answers, and is used for teaching.</div></div>
Please the above in red shows how close they are in meaning - basically a set of beliefs.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Absolutely NOT!!!
Jesus was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of he Virgin Mary, and born man. (human - fully human, as well as fully deity)
Catechism of the Catholic Church
-- PART ONE: THE PROFESSION OF FAITH
-- SECTION TWO I. THE CREEDS
-- CHAPTER TWO I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD
-- Article 3 "HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND WAS BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY"
-- Paragraph 2. "CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY</div></div>
Yeah I know that is what you believe, so as it is a matter of faith to you..... I will accept it as such.
But the word of God which most accept that the bible is and I use as the final authority on things religious seem to disagree with what you have posted above. I give more credit or weight to the bible than to the word of men...on that you and I differ.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You yourself quoted it. It does NOT say "Begotten sons of God".
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial
with the Father;
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate
of the Virgin Mary,
and became man</div></div>
We are all the sons and daughters of God, and we have already agreed that only Adam & Eve where made.....hence we were all begotten of God as the bible further states that he is our Father.
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