Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

[franksterr]

Revelation 22:16
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.</div></div>

Isaiah 14:12
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!</div></div>

[Tulip]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

I'm not going to be able to quote any bible verses, but it was my understanding that Lucifer is considered the bright morning star.

[Emperah]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

Tulip you are correct by what we've been taught, but they never come and teach us what Frankster has put up there as well.

[jah_yout]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

the figure &quot;lucifer&quot; has been simplified &amp; falsified in popular modern religious interpretations

[Tulip]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dehyah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tulip you are correct by what we've been taught, but they never come and teach us what Frankster has put up there as well. </div></div>

True. I was definitely only taught positions that supported what the teacher believed. That would do a lot to explain why I am the way I am now.

I'm kind of OK with the morning star being an angel even if it was before he fell from grace.

I sometimes think I might need to learn Hebrew just to cut out the middle man interpretation and satisfy my curiosity.

[Tulip]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the figure &quot;lucifer&quot; has been simplified &amp; falsified in popular modern religious interpretations </div></div>

So how do you see Lucifer?

I tell you one thing. If I believed, I think the spat would have to be over by now. Surely, they must be exhausted. I am just in my few years of reading and hearing about it.

[jah_yout]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

when i get a chance i will find &amp; post a video on youtube by ashra kwesi- a brilliant scholar-- about this;
to date it is the best explanation of the true history of lucifer i have ever seen...

soon come

[Peasie]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

I don't know who is the bright morning star. But I do know that if yuh madda tell yuh seh yuh bright like mawnin star, it means you are the devil personified

[franksterr]

Re: Who is the bright morning star Jesus or Lucifer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tulip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not going to be able to quote any bible verses, but it was my understanding that Lucifer is considered the bright morning star. </div></div>

Yes....
because like Jesus, Lucifer/Satan/Devil is a Son of God and as such he has brought light to the world.
What light has Lucifer brought?

Genesis 6:2
That the<span style="font-weight: bold"> sons of God</span> saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.