iss da bible a myth? stories versus histaree

[blugiant]

jy ann emparah avinn ann interestinn discussion pon diss

can yuh tekk da bible literallee?

iff yuh tekk da literal approach do yuh discard peeps woo chatt bout da bible contain myth ann fables?

peter chatt bout oww peeps wood turn away fran da trooth ann turn to mythologee.

iss da bible a myth?

[j-can]

iss da bible a myth?

Yes
Some historical facts but mostly unbelievable stories(Noah an the ark myth for example)

[blugiant]

Yes
Some historical facts but mostly unbelievable stories(Noah an the ark myth for example)

wat amaze iss dat kulchas dat predate da bible awlso ave stories aff great flood

mii ear wan parsan sed da noah's ark was a space ship

noah story iss interestinn cah itt was aftah da flood dat ham saw a drunk noah naked ann noah ann cursed ham son canaan. dat iss wan way oww dem justify tekkinn canaanites lands ann slaveree

guess da deeper pint iss wat iss biblical histories wen itt entwined widd myths

[jah_yout]

people are too dull;
real interpretation of scripture is so dumbed down nowadays that true reasoning is very rare...

myth invariably gets intertwined with factual events whenever one tells a story or a narrative;

one can choose to interpret things from one extreme or the next---or they could attempt balance...
for example, the legend of nanny catching bullets between har batty jaw is certainly not literally true...it's embellishment & metaphor;
as a story gets passed down it can change based on who is doing the telling...
just like remake movies based on the same story tend to have differences;

again "the bible" is not one book...so lumping any sweeping judgement on something called "the bible" must be examined on a deeper level;
what is true of the book called exodus may not be true of the book called ecclesiastes

[j-can]

Don't know who wrote this but it's bang on

(The Bible is a book written thousands of years ago by primitive men. A book that advocates senseless murder, slavery and the oppression of women has no place in our society today.)

[Tropicana]

This covers it beautifully.

Top 10 Reasons the Bible is True.

(If I missed any that are important to you, please add them in the comment section below. I'd love to hear from you.)

1. Manuscript Evidence. There are way more copies of the biblical manuscripts, with remarkable consistency between them, than there are for any of the classics like Plato, Aristotle and Socrates. "There is no body of ancient literature in the world which enjoys such a wealth of good textual attestation as the New Testament." F.F. Bruce, The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?
2. Archaeological Evidence. Again and again archaeological discoveries have verified the accuracy of the historical and cultural references in the Bible. The more they dig, the more it confirms the Bible. “It is important to note that Near Eastern archaeology has demonstrated the historical and geographical reliability of the Bible in many important areas.” E.M. Blaiklock, The New International Dictionary of Biblical Archaeology.
3. Eyewitness Accounts. The Bible was written by people who witnessed the events it describes; many were persecuted or martyred but never changed their story. Would you die for something you knew was untrue? “It is no moderate approbation of Scripture that it has been sealed by the blood of so many witnesses, especially when we reflect that they died to render testimony to the faith …with a firm and constant, yet sober, zeal toward God.” John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion.
4. Corroborating Accounts. There are plenty of references in non-biblical sources to the events described in the Bible. The Jewish historian Josephus, born in 37 AD, “provide(s) indispensable background material for the student of…New Testament history. In them, we meet many figures well known to us from the New Testament. Some of his writings provide direct commentary on New Testament references.” J.D. Douglas, ed., The New Bible Dictionary.
5. Literary Consistency. The Bible contains 66 books written over 1,500 years by 40 different writers but it tells one "big story" of God's plan of salvation that culminated in Jesus Christ. You can't even pass a secret around a circle of 12 people and get the same message at the end. “There is indeed a wide variety of human authors and themes (in the Bible). Yet behind these…there lies a single divine author with a single unifying theme.” John R.W. Stott, Understanding the Bible.
6. Prophetic Consistency. There are over 300 specific prophecies in the Old Testament that are fulfilled in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the New Testament. “The very dimension of the sheer fulfillment of prophecy of the Old Testament Scriptures should be enough to convince anyone that we are dealing with a supernatural piece of literature….God has himself planted within the scriptures an internal consistency that bears witness that this is his Word.” R.C. Sproul, Now That’s a Good Question.
7. Expert Scrutiny. The early church had extremely high standards for what books were judged to be authentic and therefore included in the Bible. A book had to have been written by an Apostle or someone in their immediate circle, had to conform to basic Christian faith and had to be in widespread use among many churches. This was a careful process of “the people of God in many different places, coming to recognize what other believers elsewhere found to be true”; these writings were truly God’s word. G.J. Wenham, J.A. Motyer, D.A. Carson and R.T. France, The New Bible Commentary.
8. Leader Acceptance. A majority of the greatest leaders and thinkers in history have affirmed the truth and impact of the Bible. "I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given man. All the good from the Savior of the world is communicated to us through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong.” Abraham Lincoln.
9. Global Influence. The Bible has had a greater influence on the laws, art, ethics, music and literature of world civilization than any other book in history. Can you think of one that even comes close? “Christianity”, as set forth in the Bible “is responsible for a disproportionately large number of the humanitarian advances in the history of civilization—in education, medicine, law, the fine arts, working for human rights and even in the natural sciences….” Craig L. Blomberg, in Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith.
10. Changed Lives. From St. Augustine to Martin Luther to Joni Eareckson Tada to countless everyday men, women and children, the words of the Bible have transformed lives unmistakably and forever. “As unnamed masses of Christians down through the ages have shown us, the Bible is the most reliable place to turn for finding the key to a life of love and good works.” T.M. Moore, The Case for the Bible.

I hope this list helps you become more confident about the Bible.

[Tropicana]

This is also an excellent resource:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v6/n2/bible-true

he good news is that God’s Word provides a simple but profound answer—an “ultimate proof”—that nobody can logically deny. And supporting this truth is a wealth of astounding evidences. We provide seven of the most compelling and easy-to-learn ones on the pages that follow.Special Section: Can You Prove the Bible is True?

Part One: The Ultimate Proof

Part Two: Seven Compelling Evidences

1. God’s Character
2. Claims of Divine Authorship
3. Unity of the Bible
4. Fulfilled Prophecy
5. Scientific Accuracy
6. Archaeological Finds


7. Life-Changing Power

[Tropicana]

More:

Reasons to believe the Bible is the true Word of God

• Noah's Ark - Found! The Bible says Noah's Ark landed on the mountains of Urartu (Ararat), which is modern day Eastern Turkey. If the Bible is true we should be able to find a very old boat remains in these mountains with the exact dimensions given in the Bible. In 1977 Ron Wyatt discovered these remains and the government of Turkey has recognized it as Noah's Ark and declared the area Noah's Ark National Park (see it on Google Earth!). Find out more.
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• Sodom & Gomorrah - Found! The Bible tell us that God completely destroyed the cities of Sodom & Gomorrah (in Israel) by raining down "fire and brimstone" upon them (brimstone means sulphur). These ancient ruins have been found - with millions of sulphur pellets embedded in the ruins. These ruins, unlike anything found anywhere else in the world, are found near the Dead Sea in Israel and closely resemble the Bible narrative. Find out more.
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• Red Sea Crossing - Found! The Bible tells us that around 3500 years ago, Moses parted the Red Sea and led the Israelites out of Egypt across to the other side. As the Egyptian chariots crossed after them in pursuit, God caused the wheels to come off the chariots and the waters to recede upon them, drowning all Pharaoh's army. The location of the crossing has been discovered, with chariot wheels, horse and human remains found scattered on the seabed. Find out more.
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• Mt Sinai - Found! The Bible tells us that after Moses brought the Israelites across the Red Sea, the Angel of God led them to a mountain named Mt. Sinai (aka Mt. Nebo) where God descended on the mountain "in fire". Exodus says, "the smoke billowed up from the mountain like smoke from a furnace". Sounds pretty hot, so if this really happened we should be able to find a mountain in that area with a burnt and blackened top. In the Bible, the Apostle Paul tells us Mt. Sinai is in Arabia. Mt. Sinai has definitely been discovered in modern day Saudi Arabia (see it on Google Earth!). Find out more.
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• The Shroud of Turin is a very old burial cloth with the photographic negative image of a man who had died of a Roman style scourging and crucifixion. The concept of the photographic negative was not conceived of until the 19th century. How then could anyone have faked the shroud image before anyone knew what a photographic negative is? Find out more.
  
• Dinosaurs and humans co-existed. There is a large body of evidence that man has seen living dinosaurs even up to recent times. Find out more.
  
• 5 different people groups trace their ancestry back to Noah or his sons. Find out more.
  
• Molecule-to-Man Evolution is impossible. Modern biology proves beyond doubt that Darwinian evolution is simply not possible. Find out more.
• Giant Sequoia trees are one of the oldest living trees on earth - and they never die. See how they are living proof of the Great Flood 4500 years ago. Find out more.
• Near Death Experiences. There is now scientific evidence for the afterlife. Find out more.

http://www.6000years.org/frame.php?page=home

[RichD]

so what is the spiritual fate of people who lived and died never having been exposed to the teachings of the Bible? are they doomed to eternal damnation?

[kia027]

so what is the spiritual fate of people who lived and died never having been exposed to the teachings of the Bible? are they doomed to eternal damnation?

depending on their beliefs, they are reincarnated, become a spirit floating around, or just a memory

[j-can]

so what is the spiritual fate of people who lived and died never having been exposed to the teachings of the Bible? are they doomed to eternal damnation?

Christians goes to heaven everybody else goes straight to hell including Jews who wrote the bible and started the religion..talk about delusion

[kia027]

Christians goes to heaven everybody else goes straight to hell including Jews who wrote the bible and started the religion..talk about delusion

Most religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since people generally do not belong to more than one religion we can project that all people go to Hell

[j-can]

Most religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since people generally do not belong to more than one religion we can project that all people go to Hell

Then we are in agreement ..All religions are imiginary

[blugiant]

people are too dull;
real interpretation of scripture is so dumbed down nowadays that true reasoning is very rare...

myth invariably gets intertwined with factual events whenever one tells a story or a narrative;

one can choose to interpret things from one extreme or the next---or they could attempt balance...
for example, the legend of nanny catching bullets between har batty jaw is certainly not literally true...it's embellishment & metaphor;
as a story gets passed down it can change based on who is doing the telling...
just like remake movies based on the same story tend to have differences;

again "the bible" is not one book...so lumping any sweeping judgement on something called "the bible" must be examined on a deeper level;
what is true of the book called exodus may not be true of the book called ecclesiastes

yess da bible iss collecshams aff books butt tiggithar bye elites fe maintain dem position aff powers. da reason y sum books were place inn da bible ann addar xxcluded was cah dem add bigg backinn fram rich peeps. iff yuh putt tiggithar various book fe create a narrative fe mekk itt easier fe cantrol peeps den itt becum wan book. deer ar diffarant varsians aff bibles ann da bout da comparrassion aff diffarant bibles natt de cumparrassion aff diffarant books. realitee iss dat de bible contain manee fables includinn sum inn ecclesiastes. a historical telling da storees aff "god" peeps usinn various books fe string ann historikkal narrative tiggithar create a book cawl da bible. wan book ar multiple book arguments cloud da issue

since moas aff da books were written aftah da fact yuh wood affii xxpexx sum historical accuracee aff da thymes butt dat still doan mean da myths ar factual

jy so do yuh believe inn da versian aff da bible woo chatt bout jesus as flesh ann blood ar de versian aff jesus as a spirit

[blugiant]

diss mekk mii laff tropi

wen mii ave more thyme mii will cum bakk to diss

This covers it beautifully.