cryinn rape

[tsophra]

Re: cryinn rape

Based on Rita's statement Blu said:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu see itt natt bout actual rape butt oomen beeleevinn dat dem ave da rite fii sey men rape dem cah dem beeleeved dat dem wass rape. iss itt rite fii oomen woo beeleeve dat dem been rape fii accuse men aff rapinn dem? </div></div>

(from jy's tread) Rita said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> people who know me would know i would never say that. i said it felt like it cause i didn't want to have sex...he insisted...it was forced and when it was over i seh, uh, that felt like a rape. i feel bad about myself y'know?
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how is that not rape?

[ZaraJah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hmm..but if she eventually confessed den she was strait up lying, no? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] </div></div>

Arjen, I said confessed but it was more like telling us that "she believed". I changed the word "confess" because it was my word...

She was LYING IMO, of course, but to this day, she refuse to believe that it was a lie. Is there a difference between lying about something and then turning around and saying "I thought that was what happened" when exposed?

I don't really know the answer...because it can be circumstantial.

[ZaraJah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Based on Rita's statement Blu said:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu see itt natt bout actual rape butt oomen beeleevinn dat dem ave da rite fii sey men rape dem cah dem beeleeved dat dem wass rape. iss itt rite fii oomen woo beeleeve dat dem been rape fii accuse men aff rapinn dem? </div></div>

(from jy's tread) Rita said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> people who know me would know i would never say that. i said it felt like it cause i didn't want to have sex...he insisted...it was forced and when it was over i seh, uh, that felt like a rape. i feel bad about myself y'know?
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how is that not rape? </div></div>

Forced = forced.

That felt like rape? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] What? Did she mean the act itself or the fact that it was forced? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

I [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70384-praying.gif[/img] for all rape victims...yes only the TRUE victims.

[MrsBlue]

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<span style="color: #3333FF">But it seems to me that in that situation, many women are going to be unsure of whether or not it was rape and will say that it felt like rape. The idea that a husband can rape his wife is something that a lot of people won't acknowledge or accept. </span>

[ZaraJah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #3333FF">The idea that a husband can rape his wife is something that a lot of people won't acknowledge or accept. </span> </div></div>

Those people are PERFECT FOOLS and should not even be acknowledged.

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Based on Rita's statement Blu said:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu see itt natt bout actual rape butt oomen beeleevinn dat dem ave da rite fii sey men rape dem cah dem beeleeved dat dem wass rape. iss itt rite fii oomen woo beeleeve dat dem been rape fii accuse men aff rapinn dem? </div></div>

(from jy's tread) Rita said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> people who know me would know i would never say that. i said it felt like it cause i didn't want to have sex...he insisted...it was forced and when it was over i seh, uh, that felt like a rape. i feel bad about myself y'know?
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how is that not rape? </div></div>

soo yu a tekk rita wurd ova bob wurd. admitt itt yu feel ooman side pon diss iss more valid dan de man side. peeps fii beeleevee oomen varsian bout rape irregardless aff dem motivation fii mekk dat claims. rita mekk dat claim fii sell more book. soo shii wass usinn ar varsain bat shii felt like bob rape fii gitt publicitee fii ar book. rita credibilitee shatt wen shii sey dat cah shii a xxploit rape fii mekk money

let natt gitt inna da qwestian bout iff rita felt like shii neva waan fii ave sex ann bob insisted. den shii doo itt ann sey itt felt like rape cah imm insisted. itt sund like shi might ave cansented ann afta da sex sey itt feel like rape

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelli0n</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blu should never have been allowed to raise a daughter. </div></div>

soo yu meen mii natt likkle skellee godfaddar

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

the point is you were very quick to take this issue and turn it summen about women crying wolf...or even worse..because if you were actually talking about women deliberately lying it would be ok

you still have not answered the originanal question... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/bubble.gif[/img] </div></div>

yu knoo dat de secand thyme da ooman inn da duke case sey shii wass gang rape. now iff shii wass gang rape beefore ann neva gitt proppa elp shii cood ave add a mental flashbakk ann beleeve dat shii wass rape again wen shii wass natt rape.

soo yu still a gawn like yu doan waan fii beeleeve dat sum oomen lie bout being rape. doo yu beeleeve awl rape allegations ar trooo? cah iff yu sey noo den yu affii beeleve sum ooman cry wolf bout being rape.

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #3333FF">But what you're saying is that the women knowingly falsely accused these men. What blugiant seems to be saying is that some women believe that they have been raped but have not been. What I am trying to understand is how blugiant defines that situation. </span> </div></div>

shii made rape alleegateshan beefour. wass itt flashbakk aff ar being rape ann shii accuse sum menn cah shii beeleeve dat shii wass being rape again.

iff peeps beeleeve dat shi wass rape den dem shood push fii a trial soo dem caan gitt ar sworn testimonee pon da recards natt watt sum lawyers off da recard report cah dat de onlee way fii ear boat side aff da storees. iff dem reallee beeleevee da ooman reallee beeleeve dat shi wass rape wen shi wass natt rape den dem need fii prosecute ar fii make beeleeve rape. onlee den da trooth bout watt reallee gawn will bee sworn inna da publikk recard

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hmm..but if she eventually confessed den she was strait up lying, no? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] </div></div>

ann dat y oomen woo cry wolf bout being rape cannott admitt dem lie cah den dem woodbee admittinn too committ a crime

[MrsBlue]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">let natt gitt inna da qwestian bout iff rita felt like shii neva waan fii ave sex ann bob insisted. den shii doo itt ann sey itt felt like rape cah imm insisted. itt sund like shi might ave cansented ann afta da sex sey itt feel like rape </div></div> <span style="color: #3333FF">Your vision of how this happened seems to be that he asked, she said no, he insisted and she gave in. What if what actually happened is that she didn't give in but he took it anyway? I'm not saying this is what happened because I wasn't there, but neither were you. Bob is not here to give his version, which makes it kind of unfair, but no one knows unless they were present. </span>

[MrsBlue]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #3333FF">But what you're saying is that the women knowingly falsely accused these men. What blugiant seems to be saying is that some women believe that they have been raped but have not been. What I am trying to understand is how blugiant defines that situation. </span> </div></div>

shii made rape alleegateshan beefour. wass itt flashbakk aff ar being rape ann shii accuse sum menn cah shii beeleeve dat shii wass being rape again.

iff peeps beeleeve dat shi wass rape den dem shood push fii a trial soo dem caan gitt ar sworn testimonee pon da recards natt watt sum lawyers off da recard report cah dat de onlee way fii ear boat side aff da storees. iff dem reallee beeleevee da ooman reallee beeleeve dat shi wass rape wen shi wass natt rape den dem need fii prosecute ar fii make beeleeve rape. onlee den da trooth bout watt reallee gawn will bee sworn inna da publikk recard </div></div> <span style="color: #3333FF">So you're saying that some women that accuse a man of raping them may have been raped in the past and may be having flashbacks to that incident and believe that the present man has raped them when it was fully consensual sex? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

Really? You really believe that? </span>

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #3333FF">But what you're saying is that the women knowingly falsely accused these men. What blugiant seems to be saying is that some women believe that they have been raped but have not been. What I am trying to understand is how blugiant defines that situation. </span> </div></div>

shii made rape alleegateshan beefour. wass itt flashbakk aff ar being rape ann shii accuse sum menn cah shii beeleeve dat shii wass being rape again.

iff peeps beeleeve dat shi wass rape den dem shood push fii a trial soo dem caan gitt ar sworn testimonee pon da recards natt watt sum lawyers off da recard report cah dat de onlee way fii ear boat side aff da storees. iff dem reallee beeleevee da ooman reallee beeleeve dat shi wass rape wen shi wass natt rape den dem need fii prosecute ar fii make beeleeve rape. onlee den da trooth bout watt reallee gawn will bee sworn inna da publikk recard </div></div> <span style="color: #3333FF">So you're saying that some women that accuse a man of raping them may have been raped in the past and may be having flashbacks to that incident and believe that the present man has raped them when it was fully consensual sex? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

Really? You really believe that? </span> </div></div>

blueness yu knoo y sum peeps luv fii cumm inna sum aff mii tread repeatelee ann chatt bout peeps ave thyme. itt cah dem doan like fii admit dat mii mekk sense out aff nunsense. yu see natt dat dem reallee disagree widd wat mii poas butt dem dissturb dat mii ave da gall fii chatt da trooth

wid yu parfessional xxpertease mii tink yu wood bee more knowleegeble bout post traumatic stress disorder. oww dem racist mzungu yuths inn da duke case gawn triggar da ooman memories aff wen shii wass gang rape as a teenager. dat image inna ar mind cood ave mekk ar feel like shii wass being rape again wen shii wass onlee relivinn gittinn rape ar a teenagers

yu see sumtime yuths wey cyaan verbalise dem abuse act out ann mistreat addar peeps cah sintinn triggar dem memories aff being abuse. y eva meet sumwan ann dem rubb yu da wrang way fram da furst thyme yu meet dem ann yu doan knoo y. flashbakk ting. dat y yu affii ave a shart memoree wen yu wukk widd certain peeps.

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">let natt gitt inna da qwestian bout iff rita felt like shii neva waan fii ave sex ann bob insisted. den shii doo itt ann sey itt felt like rape cah imm insisted. itt sund like shi might ave cansented ann afta da sex sey itt feel like rape </div></div> <span style="color: #3333FF">Your vision of how this happened seems to be that he asked, she said no, he insisted and she gave in. What if what actually happened is that she didn't give in but he took it anyway? I'm not saying this is what happened because I wasn't there, but neither were you. Bob is not here to give his version, which makes it kind of unfair, but no one knows unless they were present. </span> </div></div>

wat unfair iss dat rita decide fii spin dat storee fii sell ar book. yu see mii chattinn bout wat mii kno cah like yu sey mii wass natt dere. wat mii chattinn bout iss rita duttee motives fii publicize ar book bye cryinn felt like rape by an icon. rita sey sey neva waan den imm insisted ann afta da act bawl bout itt feel like rape fii sell more book. rita shame arself. mii wanda iff shii wass upselt dat bob wass bout fii divorve ar likkle before imm died.

[MrsBlue]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blueness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #3333FF">But what you're saying is that the women knowingly falsely accused these men. What blugiant seems to be saying is that some women believe that they have been raped but have not been. What I am trying to understand is how blugiant defines that situation. </span> </div></div>

shii made rape alleegateshan beefour. wass itt flashbakk aff ar being rape ann shii accuse sum menn cah shii beeleeve dat shii wass being rape again.

iff peeps beeleeve dat shi wass rape den dem shood push fii a trial soo dem caan gitt ar sworn testimonee pon da recards natt watt sum lawyers off da recard report cah dat de onlee way fii ear boat side aff da storees. iff dem reallee beeleevee da ooman reallee beeleeve dat shi wass rape wen shi wass natt rape den dem need fii prosecute ar fii make beeleeve rape. onlee den da trooth bout watt reallee gawn will bee sworn inna da publikk recard </div></div> <span style="color: #3333FF">So you're saying that some women that accuse a man of raping them may have been raped in the past and may be having flashbacks to that incident and believe that the present man has raped them when it was fully consensual sex? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

Really? You really believe that? </span> </div></div>

blueness yu knoo y sum peeps luv fii cumm inna sum aff mii tread repeatelee ann chatt bout peeps ave thyme. itt cah dem doan like fii admit dat mii mekk sense out aff nunsense. yu see natt dat dem reallee disagree widd wat mii poas butt dem dissturb dat mii ave da gall fii chatt da trooth

wid yu parfessional xxpertease mii tink yu wood bee more knowleegeble bout post traumatic stress disorder. oww dem racist mzungu yuths inn da duke case gawn triggar da ooman memories aff wen shii wass gang rape as a teenager. dat image inna ar mind cood ave mekk ar feel like shii wass being rape again wen shii wass onlee relivinn gittinn rape ar a teenagers

yu see sumtime yuths wey cyaan verbalise dem abuse act out ann mistreat addar peeps cah sintinn triggar dem memories aff being abuse. y eva meet sumwan ann dem rubb yu da wrang way fram da furst thyme yu meet dem ann yu doan knoo y. flashbakk ting. dat y yu affii ave a shart memoree wen yu wukk widd certain peeps. </div></div>

<span style="color: #3333FF">Yes, I'm quite familiar with PTSD. And transference. Let me ask you a question, how much experience do you have with rape survivors?</span>