dread help-- please....

[BND1999]

Ok.. i need advice on the sly here.. if my son were to see me writing this he'd have my head...... he's rasta.. hasnt touched his hair in 6 years... .. good looking boy.. plenty of dreads but some mess too.. areas of awful matting... and people including me telling him to get it worked on to sort it out...

finally after much pressure.. and with great reluctance he went against his own principles and feelings to a black hair salon to get his dreads sorted....

he thought he was very clear.. just wanted it worked out in the back.. but after 5 hours when he left he absolutely hated it and was mortified...

they worked from the bottom up... cut some pieces... and twisted in other places. and then tied string at each and ever root super tight........ so the area on his scalp now is pulled way back from his face.. he feels bald almost.. because the top was more loose before...

i am bummed because it was partially my fault.. he keeps saying his heart hurts.. why did he do this.. why did he listen to others.. and now he has his hat on his head... lol... says its supposed to stay this way for three months with this thread.... but he hates it...

question... i told him to go back and have the threads cut out from his roots.. and anywhere else.... i think it will feel better.. and the gal said it will be much like when he comes in.. he thinks shes sayng that to be nice.. that its not possible..

meanwhile his off to san francisco today to intern at a reggae festival.. hat on head... and im telling him if when he comes back and it still feels awful.. to go back and have her try to undo some of this....

anyone have experience or advice.. for this guilty mom?

[Pepper]

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Why go back to the same place? Not everyone that has a shop knows what they are doing, also some people are totally oblivious to the fact that all hair textures are not alike.

I think JD had a good person...was she in NY or Boston [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]...sorry I can't remember. But Jdreaming comes around here often enough, or maybe you can e-mail her. Her hair looks fabulous now, and when I first met her when she still lived in Bean Town. If the person is in Boston, it might be worth the trip.

[BND1999]

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((peps)) supposedly this place had a good recommendation and reputation.. the woman has done lauryn hills hair... i think they just miscommunicated .. and he not having had his hair touched in eons.. closed his eyes during all the hours... and if he did look didnt stop it when he should have...

she knows what she did.. seems best to go back to her should he decide to have her try to undo some of the tying... just wondered if anyone else who has dreads... did this tying..and did it relax after a few months when more hair grew in from the scalp............... just feeling bad is all... wish he never went.. and i just kept quiet about the ratty pieces of hair... Mothers! Grrrr

[plv23]

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How do you think it looks. Sometimes when you get your hair done it doesn't look right to you and others all think it looks good.

[loops]

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the kid has hair very similar to mine...except i have no matted up pieces...

the problem is that the hair is too neatly coifed for him....he just wanted the back fixed...but now...the pieces on the top are too neat, too tight, and he's lost his frizzy stuff. I can see how it might be shocking for him.

i maintain if he waits a few days...perhaps cuts a few of those strings up near his scalp....and takes a few rides in a convertible...he'll be back to looking like his old self.

mind you...i know nada about dreads...but i have mastered the windblown, who cares look. once those wispy pieces return...i think he'll be happier.

should he cut the tied up pieces close to his scalp? allllll of them? what if he just cut some of them?

[BND1999]

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How do you think it looks. Sometimes when you get your hair done it doesn't look right to you and others all think it looks good.

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its terrible to me.. its not his hair.. all he wanted was it sorted out in back.. not stylized.. he wanted it natural as it was...

question is should he take out what she tied ?????

told him to ask some rasta friends where hes going in california.... maybe they can help..... seems to me if he pulled out the threads she put in.. it will loosen back on his scalp.. and take it natural form...... what do i know.. maybe she put some chemical crap in there.. altho she said no

[Seveen]

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i have my dreads groomed and she never uses string - she either palm rolls them or interlocks them by hand - she's from Ethiopia - after she does them they are tight - but as my hair grows it looses up

had them done down here and no string was used either - he used the same technique as above

[Pepper]

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((peps)) supposedly this place had a good recommendation and reputation.. the woman has done lauryn hills hair...

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I never thought Lauryn's dreads were the greatest.

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Don't know about the string either...again she may not have been catering to his hair texture.

[SassyRas]

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BND, help him cut the threads out so his hair will relax.
Sounds like it's too groomed for him..LOL! She did that to help train/grow his locs.

Will he let you take a picture

[Gen]

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khamit kinks in nyc is very good..they use lots of natural oils in the hair....then again he probably did not want them trained....and liked the matting...


yeah I get the "no one else should be touching them part because it's spiritual" and so forth...but even dreads should look neat & clean, especially if he had an internship...

I saw this guy(caucasion) on the train once and I almost asked him if he needed help....

anyway ..sounds like he should just cut the strings and have a family member roll it for him.....this way he can avoid having outsiders touch it....

[Suesumba]

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BND, get a seam ripper and help him tek out the threads. it will be much safer and not cut his real hair.

denna wah colla chred dem use? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

[BND1999]

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thanks everyone... ive been feeling burdened about this all day.. because i know what it feels like when you do something against your natural instinct and it turns out wrong.....

his hair was great.. mix of plenty of dreads and his naturalness and curls.....

hes in san francisco now at the sierra nevada music festival.. hopefully working at it will help distract him from his hot head under his hat...

i will mention all of this to him.. and encourage him to have them cut out when he comes home..i will not dare touch his head.. nor will he allow me to

i think hes worried it will be even worse if he cuts the thread......who knows... thanks again

[Gen]

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one of my family members converted to Islam....this means she wears the traditional headcoverings and her hair must not be seen by any "non family male"

I was going to suggest that maybe you could learn how to untangle the matting now and again..I know some salons will give a demonstration.....should be okay since you are his mother....great bonding experience too...

[Seveen]

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i think the brethen in SF will help him out - he'll come home fine [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70409-waytogo.gif[/img]

[Q3210]

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Do a navy haircut and let the thing start growing all over again.