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Re: Sex Ed - Missing The Forest
britisha: Are they free in "Communist China?"
Not so fast Fortylegs. Here is a piece I copied from an indirect posted by REbel in Internat'l Politrix forum:
Young urban Chinese just want to have fun - including sex
The results of China's first-ever sex survey show an increase in openness on sexual matters, which were a taboo subject for decades after the Communist revolution.
The survey shows that more than half of China's urban youth agree with pre-marital sex, while one-third approve of extra-marital relationships.
A total of 6,500 young people, aged between 14 and 28, were questioned by a Communist Party organization, and the results were published in the official media.
One of the most striking figures is that one-third of those surveyed said they believed extra-marital sex was "a natural outcome of love".
Extra-marital affairs are thought to play a major part in the spread of STDs, which increased by 37% in China last year.
China also has rapidly increasing HIV rates, the virus which can lead to Aids.
Authorities tolerate new freedoms
Younger Chinese are enjoying more sexual freedoms than ever before
Far from appearing concerned, the report's author, Wu Lu Ping, told the BBC that he believed the survey showed the positive qualities of increased openness, tolerance and self-reliance among China's urban youth.
These attitudes are in sharp contrast to the views of older Chinese, who grew up in the decades after the Communist revolution, when sexual matters were considered completely taboo and extra-marital sex was deemed a crime.
However, some young people surveyed did hold more traditional views. A third believed that extra-marital affairs are wrong and should be punished.
Another 12% said they would prefer to remain celibate.
But most young people - at least in China's cities - appear to have embraced sexual freedom partly in an act of rebellion against their parents' attitudes.
The authorities seem to be taking a tolerant view. A network of 2,000 sex shops, with a turnover estimated at $20m, is flourishing throughout the country.
britisha: so now Fortylegs, how do you reconcile your argument after seeing what is happening in China?
read here
Originally posted by fOrTyLeGz:
Why tie sex and marriage together? The should is the key that shows you are making a moral judgement, servant.
How can you teach a child to be faithful to a wife... a wife who exists in the distant future? If you tried to teach such nonsense to seniors in high school, or college, it would instantly be branded as Christian born again evangelical preaching.
It doesn't have to conflict with other value systems to be completely out of place in the classroom. Our federal government shall not spend money teaching ANY religious notions.
[***britisha: In the piece below, is this a religious "notion" that the Chinese are "teaching?" Are the Chinese religious?]
What do children know about adultry? "Today children, we will be talking about adultry. Who knows what adultry is?"
[**britisha: hahaha; in the same breath, how can you "knock it" since by your implication NOONE knows what it is. It is IMHO as per your impl... as non-sensical philosophically as saying that unicorns don't exist because you never saw one. No?]
What makes adultry "wrong?" Can you go to jail for it?
britisha: read below how some Chinese feel about this.
In a religious theocracy, the people are not free.
by servant:
Suppose we tell school aged children, in the context of discussing human sexuality, that they should not have sex outside of marriage
Suppose we tell school aged children, in the context of discussing human sexuality, that they should not have sex outside of marriage
by servant:
that they should be faithful to their wife or husband
that they should be faithful to their wife or husband
by servant:
and that adultery is wrong......what "religious" or "philosophical" value system would this be conflicting with?
and that adultery is wrong......what "religious" or "philosophical" value system would this be conflicting with?
[***britisha: In the piece below, is this a religious "notion" that the Chinese are "teaching?" Are the Chinese religious?]
What do children know about adultry? "Today children, we will be talking about adultry. Who knows what adultry is?"
[**britisha: hahaha; in the same breath, how can you "knock it" since by your implication NOONE knows what it is. It is IMHO as per your impl... as non-sensical philosophically as saying that unicorns don't exist because you never saw one. No?]
What makes adultry "wrong?" Can you go to jail for it?
britisha: read below how some Chinese feel about this.
In a religious theocracy, the people are not free.
Not so fast Fortylegs. Here is a piece I copied from an indirect posted by REbel in Internat'l Politrix forum:
Young urban Chinese just want to have fun - including sex
The results of China's first-ever sex survey show an increase in openness on sexual matters, which were a taboo subject for decades after the Communist revolution.
The survey shows that more than half of China's urban youth agree with pre-marital sex, while one-third approve of extra-marital relationships.
A total of 6,500 young people, aged between 14 and 28, were questioned by a Communist Party organization, and the results were published in the official media.
One of the most striking figures is that one-third of those surveyed said they believed extra-marital sex was "a natural outcome of love".
Extra-marital affairs are thought to play a major part in the spread of STDs, which increased by 37% in China last year.
China also has rapidly increasing HIV rates, the virus which can lead to Aids.
Authorities tolerate new freedoms
Younger Chinese are enjoying more sexual freedoms than ever before
Far from appearing concerned, the report's author, Wu Lu Ping, told the BBC that he believed the survey showed the positive qualities of increased openness, tolerance and self-reliance among China's urban youth.
These attitudes are in sharp contrast to the views of older Chinese, who grew up in the decades after the Communist revolution, when sexual matters were considered completely taboo and extra-marital sex was deemed a crime.
However, some young people surveyed did hold more traditional views. A third believed that extra-marital affairs are wrong and should be punished.
Another 12% said they would prefer to remain celibate.
But most young people - at least in China's cities - appear to have embraced sexual freedom partly in an act of rebellion against their parents' attitudes.
The authorities seem to be taking a tolerant view. A network of 2,000 sex shops, with a turnover estimated at $20m, is flourishing throughout the country.
britisha: so now Fortylegs, how do you reconcile your argument after seeing what is happening in China?
read here
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