Upper class black people

**tsophra** · 07-31-2007, 01:16 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yes..there is a definitely black upper class..and they don't let in entertainers or other celebs...they been around for years.. and yu have to be lighter than a brown paper bag to be accepted.. </div></div>

dere u go..an dem still a ha debutante ball an all dat...still a do ballet an stick out dem finga wen dem drink tea....an dem count di fak seh dem ancestors dis own slaves too [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rolleyes.gif[/img] ..guess dem a try seh dem was not slave allll di time [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rolleyes.gif[/img]

but u know, mi haffi ask how class is defined in America? </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Anyone who has grown up privileged and black in the United States will recognize the insular world Graham describes, an ''upper class'' tenuously defined, as any American social elite must be, by money, education and a few generations of cultured ancestors, with the addition of an obsession with light skin and Caucasian characteristics as indicators of high status.</div></div>

Blackstar* · 07-31-2007, 04:58 PM

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It's the same in the Caribbean too, no?

Blackstar* · 07-31-2007, 05:22 PM

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Found the article; Spike Lee and his wife lived in Brooklyn (not Harlem as I had said).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tonya Lewis Lee didn't want to live in Brooklyn.

This was tantamount to heresy. Tonya, after all, is married to Spike Lee, the director of such films as She'sGotta Have It, Malcolm X and, most recently, She Hate Me. Spike is well known as a black activist, a provocateur-and a Brooklynite.

Tonya didn't have anything against Brooklyn, but it was hard to live there as Spike's wife, in Spike's very well-known brownstone, in a community that thought of Spike as its own property. She had nothing against being well known, either; but she drew the line when strangers started ringing her doorbell at four in the morning.

"Kids would stand in the street and yell up, 'Yo, Spike!'" Tonya recalls. "I would look out the window and they would say, 'Are you T-Boz?"'-a singer in the group TLC.

Tonya does have the aura of a star: a model's willowy build, an easygoing, natural warmth in her dealings with the world. But rather than being a performer, she's a lawyer, television producer, writer and hands-on mother of two children (son Jackson is seven; daughter Satchel, nine). And although she leads a high-profile life, she wanted a slightly less public arena for it. "We needed to create our own family existence," she says. In Manhattan. Source </div></div>

Blackstar* · 07-31-2007, 05:26 PM

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Another article where some disdain at life in Brooklyn comes through.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it was the summer of Tonya Lee and her co-writer Crystal Anthony's book tour. The two women, Upper East Side neighbors and friends, wrote Gotham Diaries, a novel that portrays the intersecting lives, ambitions, foibles and betrayals of members of Manhattan's black upper crust. It's a world that has been largely absent on the literary landscape. "We figured, we've seen the world of Sex and the City,” Lee says. "We've seen the world of Dominick Dunne. We wanted to show this world that Crystal and I both know."

Clearly, it is a world that both writers inhabit and ponder deeply. "We wanted to show the nuances of wealthy African Americans,” Anthony explains in a telephone interview. "You know, they're not all athletes or comedians. They are bankers, Wall Streeters, Rhodes Scholars and more.”

The Lee family moved to the Upper East Side six years ago, surprising some Spike Lee fans. The filmmaker's office is still in Brooklyn and he insists he has not forsaken his native borough. But motherhood made Tonya Lee feel more vulnerable in their Fort Greene townhouse. "Everyone knew exactly where we lived,” she says, sitting in her quiet, skylit kitchen. "When Satchel [their daughter, now 9] was born, people were ringing the bell at all hours." Source </div></div>

**kia027** · 07-31-2007, 05:49 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another article where some disdain at life in Brooklyn comes through.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it was the summer of Tonya Lee and her co-writer Crystal Anthony's book tour. The two women, Upper East Side neighbors and friends, wrote Gotham Diaries, a novel that portrays the intersecting lives, ambitions, foibles and betrayals of members of Manhattan's black upper crust. It's a world that has been largely absent on the literary landscape. "We figured, we've seen the world of Sex and the City,” Lee says. "We've seen the world of Dominick Dunne. We wanted to show this world that Crystal and I both know."

Clearly, it is a world that both writers inhabit and ponder deeply. "We wanted to show the nuances of wealthy African Americans,” Anthony explains in a telephone interview. "You know, they're not all athletes or comedians. They are bankers, Wall Streeters, Rhodes Scholars and more.”

The Lee family moved to the Upper East Side six years ago, surprising some Spike Lee fans. The filmmaker's office is still in Brooklyn and he insists he has not forsaken his native borough. But motherhood made Tonya Lee feel more vulnerable in their Fort Greene townhouse. "Everyone knew exactly where we lived,” she says, sitting in her quiet, skylit kitchen. "When Satchel [their daughter, now 9] was born, people were ringing the bell at all hours." Source </div></div> </div></div>
Could it just be a function that their location was well known and in a more accessible area than the upper east side? I think that is more of the case than just being brooklyn per se.. They could have had the same reaction as the upper west side.

Or they could have just moved to NJ as many others have done.

**tsophra** · 07-31-2007, 09:46 PM

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ya dem use to live roun ya..fram me observation dem full a crap on more dan one level [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rolleyes.gif[/img]

btw..dem juss wealthy..dem not upper class [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

**Gen** · 07-31-2007, 10:29 PM

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I am not a celebrity and I certainly don't want nobaddy a ring off mi bell a day or night time [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70388-shameonyou.gif[/img]...his store in brooklyn was well known too and people/fans sometimes think dem is one with them celebrities.

living on the upper east or west side or tribeca for that matter is wayyyyy diff than living in brooklyn. In Manhattan no one is going to bother them in that neighborhood, they are pretty much left alone. I see celebrities walking around in Manhattan all the while, and other than the paparazzi no one gives a hoot about them.

**kia027** · 08-01-2007, 11:19 AM

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dat is so true.. people inna NY just see de celebrity and just continue to walk by.. Even in NJ there is an extension of the same.. Queen Latifah, Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Maury & Connie just heng round without the fanfare same way.

**Gen** · 08-01-2007, 11:29 AM

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mi tired fi see cynthia rowley now...if mi walk past har one more time mi gwine ask har fi some free clothes [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

**jah_yout** · 08-01-2007, 02:46 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Geneva</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am not a celebrity and I certainly don't want nobaddy a ring off mi bell a day or night time [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70388-shameonyou.gif[/img]...his store in brooklyn was well known too and people/fans sometimes think dem is one with them celebrities.

living on the upper east or west side or tribeca for that matter is wayyyyy diff than living in brooklyn. In Manhattan no one is going to bother them in that neighborhood, they are pretty much left alone. I see celebrities walking around in Manhattan all the while, and other than the paparazzi no one gives a hoot about them.

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but look how much time in brooklyn i used to see spike and his sister in fort greene walking around and no one nuh even fawt pon dem....
used to see mad celebrities in brooklyn...larry fishburne, denzel, aaron hall, chuh...

**Gen** · 08-02-2007, 01:36 PM

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well when yuh tun famous yuh can move guh dunga one a the brownstone house dem near the lafayette housing dem cause nubaddy nah guh badda yuh [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img]

**jah_yout** · 08-03-2007, 10:10 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Geneva</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well when yuh tun famous yuh can move guh dunga one a the brownstone house dem near the lafayette housing dem cause nubaddy nah guh badda yuh [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img] </div></div>

i will do that...tenks;

mi remembah branford marsalis used to live on washington ave. off of lafayette...
if yu evah si how inside a di house nice [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif[/img]

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