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Mahkka

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Should Patois be the official ja language?

05-04-2004, 07:33 PM

We now live in a time weh everybaddy, worl-wide, proud bout dem heritage and culcha. Yet, wi trivialize and even scorn the Jamaican "language". It seem dat inna Merica di "language" get more respeck. For example, my doctor speaks only in patois. Im say im communicate betta an more fluently dat way, since it's the language he is most familia wit. Certainly, nobaddy looks down on im for it!!

Wen will ja declare patois an official language?????
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05-04-2004, 07:43 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

sarry but [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

di reason mi laffing is because whole heap a people already not understanding whe dem hear di djs saying, so i can imagine that on a worldwide scale....

anyway, now dat i have composed miself...

no...we would still have to translate so why waste time saying things twice....
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05-04-2004, 07:51 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Should Patois be the official ja language?

No.
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05-04-2004, 07:53 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Originally posted by Trelli:
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Should Patois be the official ja language?

No. [/qb]

so eloquently spoken.
yu tek di word right outta mi mout [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]
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05-04-2004, 07:57 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Originally posted by Mahkka:
[qb] We now live in a time weh everybaddy, worl-wide, proud bout dem heritage and culcha. Yet, wi trivialize and even scorn the Jamaican "language". It seem dat inna Merica di "language" get more respeck. For example, my doctor speaks only in patois. Im say im communicate betta an more fluently dat way, since it's the language he is most familia wit. Certainly, nobaddy looks down on im for it!!

Wen will ja declare patois an official language????? [/qb]

Mahkka, wah mek yu did jook mi inna mi foot battam soh much when mi likkle bit an a run roun di place bare foot? :mad [img]/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Now that I've gotten that off my chest.
Welcome to the board Mahkka [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Based on the fact that there are so many different forms of patois - by that i mean spelling, prononciation, etc. i think it would be rather hard to declare Jamaica an official language

btw, mi neva si nuh baddy scorn patois yet...but i am not really well travelled so pardon mi ignorance [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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05-04-2004, 08:06 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

patois should be an official jamaican language. the principal thing that needs formalising is an official writing system (cassidy's is available among others; i also have my own which i consider superior).

as i see it, in jamaica english and patois ought to be the official languages.

acceptance of patois as a language does not have to begin with government recognition but can begin among the people themselves.

i am certain that some clown will say if you want patois to be *an* official language why don't i write in it... sure i could (but my writing system would be understood by few here so i prefer to write in standard english most of the time instead of using the anglicised patois writing).
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05-04-2004, 08:07 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Big yawn.
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05-04-2004, 08:09 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

to add to that i believe mine is superior to cassidy's because it accounts for the nasalised sounds of jamaican speech.
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05-04-2004, 08:13 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Originally posted by SpurTree:
[qb] Big yawn. [/qb]

:BIGGA YAWWWWWN:

If patwa was to become an official language nuff a unno whe too shoosh fi type eee woulda fennay!

A hooda back to skool fi summ a di great like greatah kake "pretenda" dem.

~~~Waaaaaaaaaiiiiieeeee~~~ I kraks mi up! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]
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05-04-2004, 08:13 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Originally posted by draino:
[qb] to add to that i believe mine is superior to cassidy's because it accounts for the nasalised sounds of jamaican speech. [/qb]

I am intrigued. Tell me more. *twinkle* [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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05-04-2004, 08:14 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

if patois were to become *an* official language one would have the option of english OR patois. nobody would be forced to use a language he/she didn't want to.
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05-04-2004, 08:15 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Originally posted by evanovitch:
[qb] sarry but [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

di reason mi laffing is because whole heap a people already not understanding whe dem hear di djs saying, so i can imagine that on a worldwide scale....

anyway, now dat i have composed miself...

no...we would still have to translate so why waste time saying things twice.... [/qb]

dats cause djs mostly slang an use "jargon" inherent to dance hall culcha...not unlike how MCs uuze "ebonics" inna Hip Hop culcha.

Patois is different an is as old as the institution of slavery. A significant paaht a di ja population expresses demselves in no addah way. Iz not about translation...iz really a class ting.
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05-04-2004, 08:16 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Originally posted by alpha:
[qb]

Originally posted by draino:
[qb] to add to that i believe mine is superior to cassidy's because it accounts for the nasalised sounds of jamaican speech. [/qb]

I am intrigued. Tell me more. *twinkle* [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/qb]

i think i'll have to document it again since my original documents were lost when my computer crashed. i'll include the IPA phonetic representations to explain how the system works. are you really interested?
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05-04-2004, 08:17 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

Originally posted by NICE**Nurse:
[qb]

Originally posted by SpurTree:
[qb] Big yawn. [/qb]

:BIGGA YAWWWWWN:

If patwa was to become an official language nuff a unno whe too shoosh fi type eee woulda fennay!

A hooda back to skool fi summ a di great like greatah kake "pretenda" dem.

~~~Waaaaaaaaaiiiiieeeee~~~ I kraks mi up! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [/qb]

i personally, ongle recognise patois as written by Ms Lou...how bout you? chek dem lyrics deh doh ...which school do u subscribe to [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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05-04-2004, 08:18 PM

Re: Should Patois be the official ja language?

one man's slang is another man's idiomatic expression.
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