EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

[Trelli]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by ReggaePlus:
[qb]

Originally posted by Trelli:
[qb] excuse me! I stand up for whoever i see as the underdog to the evil.

i will say what i feel against homosexuality and against israel's tyranny and against american bullying! [/qb]

Jews aren't necessarily Israelies. Gays are people too. But obviously ONLY your rights matter...to you. That is the worst combination known to intelligence. Selfishness and ignorance. [/qb]

first of all: I have nothing against Jews- I am against Israel's evil!

Second of all: I dont give a rat's behind about homosexuals- whether u like it or not.

Third of all: YOU DO NOT KNOW ME SO DONT PRETEND YOU DO!

I protest the killing of the braeton seven, I protest with Jamaicans for justice on the final court of apeal issue.
I have never supported America in the greed fo oil when it came to the iraqi war.
I have spoken out against Israel's tyranny over the Palestinian people.

you have no clue what goes on in other posters everyday lives yet you are quick to throw around critisms of their anger and frustration at america's throwing of its weight around.
you need to examine yourself...

[Trelli]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by bandido1:
[qb] I agree that Jamaica has its own problems that needs solving; but if we bury our heads in the sand when on of our closest neighbors need help, wah wi agoh do wen de shoes deh pan de odda foot? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/qb]

worse: the argument really isn't about aristide's governance. it is really about some foreign country kidnapping a leader of a sovereign nation. if it happened to them it can happen to us.
I personally am not fond of having aristide here, i'm not fond of patterson hosting him with tax-payers money, but i am not fond of america threatening us.

[Trelli]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by mankind:
[qb] I notice some of you folks are backing the bully,it's shameful for a Super power like the US to theaten a third world country like Jamaica. They backed off North Korea who told them that thay have rockets that can reach California.I do not support this kind of conduct. :verymad:

This President is Crazy [/qb]

This I can agree with!

[Night Nurse]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by Trelli:
[qb] the argument really isn't about aristide's governance. it is really about some foreign country kidnapping a leader of a sovereign nation. if it happened to them it can happen to us. [/qb]

Don't let paranoia rule your existence. Do you have ANY evidence of Aristide's "alleged" kidnapping or are you just looking for ANOTHER reason to galang bad and expel your venom on America? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Y'all kill mi...mekks no doubt yuh are everything American from head to toe and even in your actions. You people who speak the loudest and proudest AGAINST America remind me of the "Fox and the Grapes" story whe mi read inna A class.

[Night Nurse]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by mankind:
[qb]

This President is Crazy [/qb]

My, my, my!!! And when EXACTLY did you come to this brilliant conclusion? Novel, ain't it.

Have you ever heard of Rip Van Winkle? Even he woke up after a while.

Kiss teet. AS IF...

[X]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

just my 2 cents worth. PJ Patterson and his corrupt cronies has never cared, and never will care about the poor Jamaicans that may be negatively affected by their consistenly careless actions.

People talk crap about PJ being democratically elected. Is this the same person who resigned as min of finance because of scandals.. Remember shell waiver, remember persian rugs/furniture scandal.. Manley tricked the people bout "Joshua" is back.. Win di elections and pass the seat on to PJ cause him did promise PJ that he would make him Prime Minister before he died. That was as payment for him work in mecking Manley Win the party leadership over Vivian Blake back in di days.

Our elections has not been about the will of the people.. Its been about who can effectively rig general elections, intimidate people and buyout area leaders.
Both PJ and Aristide should take a one way trip to Antartica... By the way a wonder if Aristide a wan a PJ boy toys dem??

As fi Bush, sell-out Rice and puppet Powell.. Dem is aneda story.

[mankind]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by Night Nurse:
[qb]

Originally posted by mankind:
[qb]

This President is Crazy [/qb]

My, my, my!!! And when EXACTLY did you come to this brilliant conclusion? Novel, ain't it.

Have you ever heard of Rip Van Winkle? Even he woke up after a while.


For man to know himself is for him to feel that for him there is no human master. For him Nature is his servant, and whatsoever he wills in Nature, that shall be his reward. If he wills to be a pigmy, a serf or a slave, that shall he be. If he wills to be a real man in possession of the things common to man, then he shall be his own sovereign.

When man fails to grasp his authority he sinks to the level of the lower animals, and whatsoever the real man bids him do, even as if it were of the lower animals, that much shall he do. If he says, "Go," he goes. If he says, "Come," he comes. By this command he performs the functions of life even as by a similar command the mule, the horse, the cow perform the will of their masters.

For the last 400 years the Negro has been in the position of being commanded even as the lower animals are controlled. Our race has been without a will, without a purpose of its own, for all this length of time. Because of that we have developed few men who are able to understand the strenuousness of the age in which we live. Where can we find in this race of ours real men: men of character, men of purpose, men of confidence, men of faith, men who really know themselves?

I have come across so many weaklings who profess to be leaders, and in the test I have found them but the slaves of a nobler class. They perform the will of their masters without question. To me, a man has no master but God. Man in his authority is a sovereign lord. As for the individual man, so of the individual race. This feeling makes man so courageous, so bold, as to make it impossible for his brother to intrude upon his rights.

So few of us can understand what it takes to make a man?the man who will never say die; the man who will never give up; the man who will never depend upon others to do for him what he ought to do for himself; the man who will not blame God, who will not blame Nature, who will not blame Fate for his condition; but the man who will go out and make conditions to suit himself. Oh, how disgusting life becomes when on every hand you hear people (who bear your image, who bear your resemblance) telling you that they cannot make it, that Fate is against them, that they cannot get a chance.

If 400 million Negroes can only get to know themselves, to know that in them is a sovereign power, is an authority that is absolute, then in the next 24 hours we would have a new race, we would have a nation, an empire?resurrected, not from the will of others to see us rise, but from our own determination to rise, irrespective of what the world thinks.

After the creation, and after man was given possession of the world, the Creator relinquished all authority to his lord, except that which was spiritual. All that authority which meant the regulation of human affairs, human society and human happiness was given to man by the Creator, and man, therefore, became master of his own destiny, and architect of his own fate. In process of time we find that only a certain type of man has been able to make good in God's creation. We find them building nations, governments and empires, as also great monuments of commerce, industry and education, while, on the other hand, 400 million Negroes who claim the common fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, have fallen back so completely, as to make us today the serfs and slaves of those who fully know themselves and have taken control of the world.

I desire to impress upon the 400 million members of my race that our failings in the past, present and of the future will be through our failures to know ourselves and to realize the true functions of man on this mundane sphere.

By Marcus Mosiah Garvey

Why are you quoting Marcus Garvey? He would not support your stupid President. I heard Seaga(Blindaga) is Supporting this evil person. He will be voted out come November. I will discuss this matter with you but please don't get personal or it will backfire on you.

Be civil.
Why are you quoting Marcus Garvy

Kiss teet. AS IF... [/qb]

[mankind]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by Night Nurse:
[qb]

Originally posted by changez:
[qb] [ I AM VERY PROUD OF JAMAICA FOR ALWAYS TAKING THE HIGH ROAD [/qb]

Yeah...rite! When is our likkle Island gonna dig out di matta outta dem owna yeye den? If dem have so much "gumption" fi go fass inna international affair, dem muss cyaan do betta in resolving di HUGE problems whe dem have internally. NO? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Yuh nuh hear peeple a sey dem "fraid fi go home cauza di crime rate et al"?


[/qb]

Your statement upset me to no end. I see your are advocating the we should be a puppet for the United states. We are doing the humanitarian thing
like the people in Portland who assisted the people from Haiti who came ashore by boat. We are not all evil like you said in one of your previous post. Some of us are compassionate people. So I wish you would stop putting us down.

:verymad: :verymad: [img]/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

[Night Nurse]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by mankind: We are not all evil like you said in one of your previous post. Some of us are compassionate people. So I wish you would stop putting us down.

Boo! Hoo! Hoo! I'm gonna tell mummy pon you! Tap pick pan mi!!! Waaaaaaaaaaah!!!

'Teva Mi done wid dis, for if is wan ting mi nuh like, is a cry-baby whe resort to the so-called victim position when dem nuh have nuh aggument leff inna dem.

Be civil.
Why are you quoting Marcus Garvy

Please, mi a beg yuh, nuh mekk mi lose nuh more respeck fi yuh. Yuh can't be serious. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Did you read it? Did you really see any difference between then and now after reading it? How can you be that thick?

Where can we find in this race of ours real men: men of character, men of purpose, men of confidence, men of faith, men who really know themselves. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

"Be civil" you said? "Why are you quoting Marcus Garvy" you ask? You are not ready for this - CLEARLY!!!

Gwaan a yuh bed and wake up in about 14 years. Then you will no doubt catch up.

MI DONE WID DIS!!!!

[britisha]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by Night Nurse:
[qb]

Originally posted by Trelli:
[qb] the argument really isn't about aristide's governance. it is really about some foreign country kidnapping a leader of a sovereign nation. if it happened to them it can happen to us. [/qb]

Don't let paranoia rule your existence. Do you have ANY evidence of Aristide's "alleged" kidnapping or are you just looking for ANOTHER reason to galang bad and expel your venom on America? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Y'all kill mi...mekks no doubt yuh are everything American from head to toe and even in your actions. You people who speak the loudest and proudest AGAINST America remind me of the "Fox and the Grapes" story whe mi read inna A class.

[/qb]

[britisha]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Where can we find in this race of ours real men: men of character, men of purpose, men of confidence, men of faith, men who really know themselves.

Maybe Fledgist's thread in FandR on "freewill" and determinism might explain this.

[mankind]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by Night Nurse:
[qb]

Originally posted by mankind: We are not all evil like you said in one of your previous post. Some of us are compassionate people. So I wish you would stop putting us down.

Boo! Hoo! Hoo! I'm gonna tell mummy pon you! Tap pick pan mi!!! Waaaaaaaaaaah!!!

'Teva Mi done wid dis, for if is wan ting mi nuh like, is a cry-baby whe resort to the so-called victim position when dem nuh have nuh aggument leff inna dem.

Be civil.
Why are you quoting Marcus Garvy

Please, mi a beg yuh, nuh mekk mi lose nuh more respeck fi yuh. Yuh can't be serious. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Did you read it? Did you really see any difference between then and now after reading it? How can you be that thick?

Where can we find in this race of ours real men: men of character, men of purpose, men of confidence, men of faith, men who really know themselves. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

"Be civil" you said? "Why are you quoting Marcus Garvy" you ask? You are not ready for this - CLEARLY!!!
Gwaan a yuh bed and wake up in about 14 years. Then you will no doubt catch up.

MI DONE WID DIS!!!! [/qb]

You can loose all the respect you want, your respect means nothing to me. Men of character do not sell out,Marcus Garvey did not sell out because of threats, now you are telling the people of Jamaica to sell out. I can also show what a cry baby I am, try me!

Stop tripping. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img]

[Trelli]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by Night Nurse:
[qb]

Originally posted by Trelli:
[qb] the argument really isn't about aristide's governance. it is really about some foreign country kidnapping a leader of a sovereign nation. if it happened to them it can happen to us. [/qb]

Don't let paranoia rule your existence. Do you have ANY evidence of Aristide's "alleged" kidnapping or are you just looking for ANOTHER reason to galang bad and expel your venom on America? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Y'all kill mi...mekks no doubt yuh are everything American from head to toe and even in your actions. You people who speak the loudest and proudest AGAINST America remind me of the "Fox and the Grapes" story whe mi read inna A class.

[/qb]

poor u! what a way you know what a go on inna other people's minds eeh! which sour grapes?
me never once go look visa fi go america- in fact mi turn down invitaion.

Aristide two days before his "resignation" declared that he would never step down now because too many people would die(now whether that would be true can be assessed now). he never made any indications to caricom that he would resign.
all of a sudden he's on a private craft to AFFRICA. he immediately claims that he was kidnapped at gun point.
who would anyone believe? the US(with their WMD iraq claim) or the evidence of peculiar happenings to aristide?

[Trelli]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

Originally posted by -X-:
[qb] just my 2 cents worth. PJ Patterson and his corrupt cronies has never cared, and never will care about the poor Jamaicans that may be negatively affected by their consistenly careless actions.

People talk crap about PJ being democratically elected. Is this the same person who resigned as min of finance because of scandals.. Remember shell waiver, remember persian rugs/furniture scandal.. Manley tricked the people bout "Joshua" is back.. Win di elections and pass the seat on to PJ cause him did promise PJ that he would make him Prime Minister before he died. That was as payment for him work in mecking Manley Win the party leadership over Vivian Blake back in di days.

Our elections has not been about the will of the people.. Its been about who can effectively rig general elections, intimidate people and buyout area leaders.
Both PJ and Aristide should take a one way trip to Antartica... By the way a wonder if Aristide a wan a PJ boy toys dem??

As fi Bush, sell-out Rice and puppet Powell.. Dem is aneda story. [/qb]

I agree with you on alot here.

not a fan of the corupt, incompetent PNP at all

still bush needs to stop threatening other people's countries. they need to stop creating enemies for themselves...

[mankind]

Re: EXCLUSIVE: Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide

I do not care for any of the Jamaican politicians because they are all dishonest both PJ and Seaga. My problem is the threats by Bush, I remembered Panama and Grenada was invaded by the United States,two small defenceless country.I also know that you can be arrested for making threats, It's illegal. So why is my little country
threatened? That's what upset me. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img]

So It's painful to hear someone approving this illegal conduct