DONOTvote on CARICOM & GOLDING'S BIG MISTAKE

**Tuff Gong** · 09-04-2008, 06:09 PM

Re: DONOTvote on CARICOM & GOLDING'S BIG MISTAKE

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DONOTvote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<span style="font-size: 11pt">This is my response to Mr Golding's offhand rejection of Trinidad's proposal for a political union of Caricom countries as read out on RJR:

<span style="font-size: 8pt">http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/letters/html/20080828T210000-0500_139596_OBS_WHY_ISN_T_JAMAICA_IN_CARICOM_POLIT ICAL_UNION_.asp</span></span>[/size]

OBSERVER

Why isn't Jamaica in Caricom political union?

Friday, August 29, 2008

Dear Editor,

I believe Bruce Golding rejected Trinidad's proposal to form a political union of Caricom countries because he knows that the Americans and British, as well as the European Union are opposed to such a body. It's as simple as that. I am waiting to hear Golding's explanation and I can guarantee his "reasoning" will be as incoherent as it is senseless.</div></div>

LOL...somehow I feel that English and Canadian Jamaican posters are the most anal, dishonest, beings on these boards. They get something stuck in their craw and even when it is proven utterly false they take it and run wid it for years till thy Kingdom come!

**Dr.Dudd** · 09-04-2008, 09:49 PM

Re: DONOTvote on CARICOM & GOLDING'S BIG MISTAKE

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DONOTvote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<span style="font-size: 11pt">This is my response to Mr Golding's offhand rejection of Trinidad's proposal for a political union of Caricom countries as read out on RJR:

<span style="font-size: 8pt">http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/letters/html/20080828T210000-0500_139596_OBS_WHY_ISN_T_JAMAICA_IN_CARICOM_POLIT ICAL_UNION_.asp</span></span>[/size]

OBSERVER

Why isn't Jamaica in Caricom political union?

Friday, August 29, 2008

Dear Editor,

I believe Bruce Golding rejected Trinidad's proposal to form a political union of Caricom countries because he knows that the Americans and British, as well as the European Union are opposed to such a body. It's as simple as that. I am waiting to hear Golding's explanation and I can guarantee his "reasoning" will be as incoherent as it is senseless.

For Jamaica to reject the good idea for such a union suggests that Jamaica is "strong enough" to act independently, or for some mysterious reason Golding is suggesting that all the Caricom countries can make better progress if they act separately!

Extremely tiny countries with small economies such as the English-speaking Caricom ones - reliant on the potential vagaries based on seasonal tourism or Western Union remittances "backed" by the "goodwill" of the American and European policy-makers who operate within their own extremely powerful political or economic unions - will leave Jamaica and other Caricom states at the mercy of these rich countries.

A Caribbean political union is a courageous and sensible proposal. But Jamaica's leaders, unlike its general population, can always be relied on to adopt cowardly stands that nearly always adopt the considerations of what will make the Americans and Europeans happiest. Golding believes this "policy" is a sign of "independent strength" that will reap rewards.
I
n rejecting a Caricom political union, it seems Golding is acting like some of those trapped, unfortunate "ghetto mothers" in Kingston who are forced to live on handouts from criminal dons and return the dons' "welfare" favours by sending their daughters to the big dons.

Jamaica is the most populous of all the Caricom countries, with the most diverse and greater economic potential, and without its participation would render such a political union very difficult to establish. Golding knows all of this, and I can't help thinking that he appears to be acting like an irresponsible person who has suddenly found himself in a position of "power".

Of course I might be wrong on everything and he has a "completely plausible explanation" - as Sherlock Holmes' sidekick Watson might say.

Anthony Ferron
London, England
[email protected]

</div></div> What if he is waiting until the proposal to join that union is more favourable than will be offered today?

I think that Jamaica's entry into the old West Indies Federation was unfavourable to th eJasmaican voter,which may be one reason why they opted to withdraw.
Who knows?
I am aware that US oppose the formation of a political union between cCaricom members, biut I think Europe should be infavour. As for Britain,what difference does ut make if they are against it?
For all I've seen it is EU that has been offering economic aid to Jamaica, not Britain.
Andas far as the US is concerned,it is only intrested in it's own economic intrest, at the expence of all others.
What's up with PetroCaribe??
Why should Jamaica not benefit while North east US New England citizens does without any pbjection from the president?

**DONOTvote** · 09-07-2008, 05:49 AM

Re: DONOTvote on CARICOM & GOLDING'S BIG MISTAKE

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DONOTvote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<span style="font-size: 11pt">This is my response to Mr Golding's offhand rejection of Trinidad's proposal for a political union of Caricom countries as read out on RJR:

<span style="font-size: 8pt">http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/letters/html/20080828T210000-0500_139596_OBS_WHY_ISN_T_JAMAICA_IN_CARICOM_POLIT ICAL_UNION_.asp</span></span>[/size]

OBSERVER

Why isn't Jamaica in Caricom political union?

Friday, August 29, 2008

Dear Editor,

I believe Bruce Golding rejected Trinidad's proposal to form a political union of Caricom countries because he knows that the Americans and British, as well as the European Union are opposed to such a body. It's as simple as that. I am waiting to hear Golding's explanation and I can guarantee his "reasoning" will be as incoherent as it is senseless.

For Jamaica to reject the good idea for such a union suggests that Jamaica is "strong enough" to act independently, or for some mysterious reason Golding is suggesting that all the Caricom countries can make better progress if they act separately!

Extremely tiny countries with small economies such as the English-speaking Caricom ones - reliant on the potential vagaries based on seasonal tourism or Western Union remittances "backed" by the "goodwill" of the American and European policy-makers who operate within their own extremely powerful political or economic unions - will leave Jamaica and other Caricom states at the mercy of these rich countries.

A Caribbean political union is a courageous and sensible proposal. But Jamaica's leaders, unlike its general population, can always be relied on to adopt cowardly stands that nearly always adopt the considerations of what will make the Americans and Europeans happiest. Golding believes this "policy" is a sign of "independent strength" that will reap rewards.
I
n rejecting a Caricom political union, it seems Golding is acting like some of those trapped, unfortunate "ghetto mothers" in Kingston who are forced to live on handouts from criminal dons and return the dons' "welfare" favours by sending their daughters to the big dons.

Jamaica is the most populous of all the Caricom countries, with the most diverse and greater economic potential, and without its participation would render such a political union very difficult to establish. Golding knows all of this, and I can't help thinking that he appears to be acting like an irresponsible person who has suddenly found himself in a position of "power".

Of course I might be wrong on everything and he has a "completely plausible explanation" - as Sherlock Holmes' sidekick Watson might say.

Anthony Ferron
London, England
[email protected]

</div></div> What if he is waiting until the proposal to join that union is more favourable than will be offered today?

I think that Jamaica's entry into the old West Indies Federation was unfavourable to th eJasmaican voter,which may be one reason why they opted to withdraw.
Who knows?
I am aware that US oppose the formation of a political union between cCaricom members, biut I think Europe should be infavour. As for Britain,what difference does ut make if they are against it?
For all I've seen it is EU that has been offering economic aid to Jamaica, not Britain.
Andas far as the US is concerned,it is only intrested in it's own economic intrest, at the expence of all others.
What's up with PetroCaribe??
Why should Jamaica not benefit while North east US New England citizens does without any pbjection from the president? </div></div>

What did u say Dr Dudd,"what if he is waiting for more favourable proposal"? If that is the case, then this is part of the problem that I am referring to. Why should be be "waiting"? Waiting for who and what? My point is in principle political union of such small states as the caricom ones is imperative.Instead of "waiting" as you are suggesting as a possible reason for Golding's rejection, they should all be in meeting together hammering out proposals that will defend the interest of the Caricom countries as a whole. Individual states should not be hanging around sceptically leafing through "propsals" searching for items of personal benefit.The EU etc are well aware that Caricom is very weak politically and will always have the upper hand in imposing their "joint agreements" on Caricom. I do not know why Golding has rejected Trinidad's proposal.But I do know that Jamaica's leaders tend to be cowardly,lazy thinkers and consequently politically inept - they act like "bad-men" when it comes to dealing with those it believes are "weaker" but are the first to agree with the views of the big rich boys. Jamaica leaders tend to be satisfied that how they are treated by the United states and Europe and seem to think about them first before their own people. They are not guided by any principles.

DONOTvote on CARICOM & GOLDING'S BIG MISTAKE

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