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Big march in Spanish Town today by church members and public on the whole demanding a return to civility and asking why only a few are holding the town at ransom re extortion rackets and murder.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Q3210</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Big march in Spanish Town today by church members and public on the whole demanding a return to civility and asking why only a few are holding the town at ransom re extortion rackets and murder. </div></div>
Hi Mr. Q...please tel mi more...how did it go? -
Police warns against protest march on Parliament
Police warns against protest march on Parliament
Tuesday, 13 April 2010
The police have issued a public advisory in the wake of reports that several organizations are planning to march on Gordon House in downtown Kingston Tuesday.
It is reported that the march will involve disgruntled public sector groups which are embroiled in a wage dispute with the Government.
It has not been ascertained if the march will take place during Tuesday afternoon's sitting of the House of Representatives.
A statement issued on Monday night by the Jamaica Constabulary Force said the police are aware that a number of organizations are planning to converge on Gordon House however, they should be aware of the relevant laws pertaining to the holding of such events.
It says under the Public Order Act it is unlawful for any public marches to take place in daylight unless a permit has been issued by the police.
An application for a permit should be made at least three days before the intended public march.
In Kingston and St. Andrew applications should be made to the Commissioner of Police.
If permission is granted by the Police for any public march or procession, these activities should not take place within 200 yards from any scheduled premises.
Scheduled premises are Jamaica House, Gordon House, Kings House, the headquarters of all Government ministries, the offices of the Kingston and St. Andrew Corporation and the Cabinet Offices.Comment
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but dem two marches a no de same ting,
me waan know bout the spanish tn march, dem really need to march and mek dem dutty ex gowhey and g ded a bush~
march yes, we naa go sit down and tek dat ish, a time fe we fight back~~
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Q3210</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Big march in Spanish Town today by church members and public on the whole demanding a return to civility and asking why only a few are holding the town at ransom re extortion rackets and murder. </div></div>
Q, I only hope this march is a precursor of others to come. ~ It's about time that each city, town or community do likewise to send a strong messge...
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Tertiary students march on Gordon House
Tertiary students march on Gordon House
Tuesday, 13 April 2010
Gordon House.A group of tertiary students from the University of the West Indies (UWI), the University of Technology and the Mico College staged a noisy demonstration in the vicinity of Gordon House Tuesday afternoon.
The students carried out their threat to march as close as possible to Parliament as they protest against the government's decision to place a freeze on subsidies for university education.
The students, most of who were from the UWI, marched along Charles Street until they got near the precincts of Gordon House.
However, they were quickly moved by a strong detachment of police who instructed them that they must remain 200 yards from the Parliament building.
Vish-Wanaught Tolan, President of the UWI Guild of Students, told RJR News that tertiary students will continue to take a stance against government policies which do not support higher education.
"This is not just a fight for the university and this is not just a fight for the tertiary sector, (the budget for) the sectors of early childhood and primary education have all been cut ... this is what is in the 2010/2011 Estimates of Expenditures tabled. How are we to move forward as a nation if at the most critical time, we're not going to invest in education?
"The first time we had a protest on campus; we had a meeting with the Minister of Education and were told at that point in time, that there would be a nominal freeze on (the allocation for) tertiary education and that money would be transferred to primary and early childhood education. But we've seen that they have gone against it and if it is that they have gone against that then we have to take a stand," said Mr. Tolan.Comment
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I want to know what benefits you expect from the Spanish Town March?
This is really fascinating how normally intelligent people fail to examine social action height the requisite tools of sociology .
Since when, or should I say, on what planet does armed criminals react positively to marches?
These people don't.
They don't do it even with the threat of imprisonment death or serious bodily injuries
Why would a few thousand unarmed otherwise intentional citizens.Public marches and demonstrations only impress authorities, law,and established law abiding organizations, businesses and individuals. YOU CAN'T USE TOOLS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO EFFECT CHANGES IN LAWABIDING AGAINSTTHE LAWLESS.
Just because you have a hammer it is not appropriate to hammer everything in sight.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Q3210</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Big march in Spanish Town today by church members and public on the whole demanding a return to civility and asking why only a few are holding the town at ransom re extortion rackets and murder. </div></div>
Q, I only hope this march is a precursor of others to come. ~ It's about time that each city, town or community do likewise to send a strong messge...
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No, Doc. A people must show their disgust, their seriousness, their resolve by acting collectively. If that means marches, then so be it. I often think about the Argentina's Mothers and Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo who protested during Argentina's dirty war years (1970s-1980s). They showed up in the plaza with white scarves, quietly, sadly. It took years, but they effected change and drew international attention to the plight of the politically-led murder of thousands of young people in Argentina.
From Wiki: The voices of the Mothers and Grandmothers have been recorded in many books, magazines, websites and other publications. The continued exposure of the stories of these families, told by the matriarchs of the family, helps to extend the critical public nature of the movement through time and space. Recording these dialogues is critical for awareness of injustices in the future. Not only will there always be a record of the human rights violations that occurred in Argentina’s Dirty War, but <span style="font-weight: bold">there will also be a record of the power of group communication and collaboration</span>.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to know what benefits you expect from the Spanish Town March? This is really fascinating how normally intelligent people fail to examine social action height the requisite tools of sociology. Since when, or should I say, on what planet does armed criminals react positively to marches? These people don't. They don't do it even with the threat of imprisonment death or serious bodily injuries.
Why would a few thousand unarmed otherwise intentional citizen? Public marches and demonstrations only impress authorities, law,and established law abiding organizations, businesses and individuals. YOU CAN'T USE TOOLS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO EFFECT CHANGES IN LAW ABIDING AGAINST THE LAWLESS.
Just because you have a hammer it is not appropriate to hammer everything in sight. </div></div>Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfull</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Q3210</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Big march in Spanish Town today by church members and public on the whole demanding a return to civility and asking why only a few are holding the town at ransom re extortion rackets and murder. </div></div>
Hi Mr. Q...please tel mi more...how did it go? </div></div>
Faith...Judging by what I saw on TV news, the turn out was overwhelming. Mayor Andrew Wheatley addressed the crowd from a platform. What was said and what is to be done following up was not clear. My guess is that the police will be shouldered with that responsibility.
What they usully do is bash a few more heads, smash a few more doors go in and eliminate males between 15 and 35, suspects. Criminals are what they call them.
Unfortunately, we have back pedaled into the dark ages rather than out of it.
Jamaicans living in and exposed to civilization, need to be aware and let their sounds of disapproval be echoed throughout demanding better from those who should.
Our means of justice is from the old testament. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
We have no mediation. What we have is reaction, retaliation and hardly ever any resolution.
Clearly, Jamaicans at home want freedom from the liberty of criminal elements and the de-culturization of what remains of our sacred social values.
The dawgs have evolved from an indisciplined society and every now and then a group surface to the top in protest. Yet when tomorrow comes, things remain the same and get worse.Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Q3210</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Big march in Spanish Town today by church members and public on the whole demanding a return to civility and asking why only a few are holding the town at ransom re extortion rackets and murder. </div></div>
Q, I only hope this march is a precursor of others to come. ~ It's about time that each city, town or community do likewise to send a strong messge...
Ahh sir Barosa,
"Convenor of Sunday's 10,000-man march in Spanish Town, Bishop Rohan Edwards, said he is confident that the wave of optimism spurred by the initiative will inspire a revolution in the problem-plagued St Catherine capital.
Edwards, president of the Jamaica Association of Full Gospel Churches and chairman of Spanish Town Revival - an inter-church advocacy group - said the gathering was an important show of support for residents disgusted with wanton bloodletting.
"It sends a message. The people who need help and are crying out felt good yesterday (Sunday). The message came out clearly that someone is on your side," said the bishop, who estimated that a "massive" 15,000-16,000 persons gathered at the Sagicor complex in the Old Capital at the culmination of the march, which started in Greendale with a few hundred participants.
The minister expressed outrage at the manner of some of the killings that have occurred in the town this year.
"People want to feel free in their community, without being shot at their gate. Headless bodies are turning up.
"...It's past the stage of murder, it's barbaric, it's cannibalistic. ... Sup'm wrong!" he declared.
Edwards said that the Church was not only working on its knees in prayer but preaching door to door to youths in communities like Tawes Pen and De La Vega City, which he believes are turning the corner.
Charles Yee-Sing, a supporter of the march, agrees.
"When bishop does these expeditions, the effect is long-lasting because usually you don't hear the upsurge of violence. There are many weeks of peace, even months," he said.
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Above taken from the Tuesday Gleaner, 14th April, 2010.
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Thanks for the info Mr. Q; I can only sincerely hope that something productive will evolve from this..I am happy to NOT hear that there was any violence.
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Your welcome Faith.
Check the Daily Gleaner`s web site and also check Mottie Perkins On Line radio talk show at wwww.go-jamaica.com
on Power 106 FM.
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"Tertiary institutions will now have to find that (the amount in subsidies that was cut) out of their pockets, which means that the tuition is going to increase significantly for students," said a vocal Krystal Tomlinson, a representative of the UWI Guild of Students.
She branded the Government a liar.
The UWI's subsidy has been cut by more than a billion dollars and the students fear that they will be asked to make up this shortfall. As such, they are anticipating school fees to be increased by as much as 25 per cent in some instances.
According to Tomlinson, the main objective of the protest was to bring to the public's attention the fact that every sector -- from early childhood to tertiary -- had been affected by a cut in the budget of the Ministry of Education.Comment
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Jamaica don't need awareness. What it need is tolerable level of violent crimes, especially murder of black people.
Those protests work because the were directed towards AUTHORITIES.
NOT CRIMINALS.
SHOW AN Instance where it work against criminals who were nit acting as government. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peasie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, Doc. A people must show their disgust, their seriousness, their resolve by acting collectively. If that means marches, then so be it. I often think about the Argentina's Mothers and Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo who protested during Argentina's dirty war years (1970s-1980s). They showed up in the plaza with white scarves, quietly, sadly. It took years, but they effected change and drew international attention to the plight of the politically-led murder of thousands of young people in Argentina.
From Wiki: The voices of the Mothers and Grandmothers have been recorded in many books, magazines, websites and other publications. The continued exposure of the stories of these families, told by the matriarchs of the family, helps to extend the critical public nature of the movement through time and space. Recording these dialogues is critical for awareness of injustices in the future. Not only will there always be a record of the human rights violations that occurred in Argentina’s Dirty War, but <span style="font-weight: bold">there will also be a record of the power of group communication and collaboration</span>.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to know what benefits you expect from the Spanish Town March? This is really fascinating how normally intelligent people fail to examine social action height the requisite tools of sociology. Since when, or should I say, on what planet does armed criminals react positively to marches? These people don't. They don't do it even with the threat of imprisonment death or serious bodily injuries.
Why would a few thousand unarmed otherwise intentional citizen? Public marches and demonstrations only impress authorities, law,and established law abiding organizations, businesses and individuals. YOU CAN'T USE TOOLS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO EFFECT CHANGES IN LAW ABIDING AGAINST THE LAWLESS.
Just because you have a hammer it is not appropriate to hammer everything in sight. </div></div> </div></div>Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Convenor of Sunday's 10,000-man march in Spanish Town, Bishop Rohan Edwards, said <span style="font-weight: bold">he is confident that the wave of optimism spurred by the initiative will inspire a revolution in the problem-plagued St Catherine capital.</span>
Edwards, president of the Jamaica Association of Full Gospel Churches and chairman of Spanish Town Revival - an inter-church advocacy group - said the gathering was an important show of support for residents disgusted with wanton bloodletting.
<span style="font-weight: bold">"It sends a message. The people who need help and are crying out felt good yesterday (Sunday). The message came out clearly that someone is on your side," said the bishop, who estimated that a "massive" 15,000-16,000 persons gathered at the Sagicor complex in the Old Capital at the culmination of the march, which started in Greendale with a few hundred participants.</span>
The minister expressed outrage at the manner of some of the killings that have occurred in the town this year.
"People want to feel free in their community, without being shot at their gate. Headless bodies are turning up.
"...It's past the stage of murder, it's barbaric, it's cannibalistic. ... Sup'm wrong!" he declared.
Edwards said that the Church was not only working on its knees in prayer but preaching door to door to youths in communities like Tawes Pen and De La Vega City, which he believes are turning the corner.
Charles Yee-Sing, a supporter of the march, agrees.
"When bishop does these expeditions, the effect is long-lasting because usually you don't hear the upsurge of violence. There are many weeks of peace, even months," he said.
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Sir Q, thanks for the above response. Although the situation is dire when it comes to the seemingly never ending crimes on ordinary citizens, I sensed a modicum of hope. Bishop Edwards should be commended for his courage and sense of purpose to convene this march which by all accounts was a success by the general optimism of the supporters...
We can only hope that others in Kingston and elsewhere will carry "his torch" in their afflicted areas as well, to inspire many mini revolutions... I am pleased and heartend by the Bishop's words which will become a refrain in areas begging for his kind of leadership and resolve. ~ I have a feeling that there will be many marches. Thanks for your report to us Q, and you be safe now! we
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