"Independence only brought crime and violence to Jamaica"

[quodlibet]

Re: "Independence only brought crime and violence to Jamaica

But theories dont seem to be doing Jamaica a whole lot of good right now, eh?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Theotitically <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quodlibet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is a truly egalitarian society even possible?
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[franksterr]

Re: &quot;Independence only brought crime and violence to Jamaica

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jamaica wasnt ready for independende...full stop !

I have said it on this board numerous times,and will say it again,the jamaican psyche has never been one of unity,it`s greed and selfishness that drives jamaica,..it`s a every man for himself society,any semblance of a decent society has been slowly eroded since the colonial masters left,now the loonies are running the asylum.

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For 500yrs we as a society has been schooled in European variety of violence and self hatred, with continuous interventions to keep us poor, destitute and desperate.
Do you really believe that 50yrs of in-dependence, could wipe that away?

[jah_yout]

Re: &quot;Independence only brought crime and violence to Jamaica

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jamaica wasnt ready for independende...full stop !

I have said it on this board numerous times,and will say it again,the jamaican psyche has never been one of unity,it`s greed and selfishness that drives jamaica,..it`s a every man for himself society,any semblance of a decent society has been slowly eroded since the colonial masters left,now the loonies are running the asylum.

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so throw your own under the bus--- but big up the ones who created the situation in the first place?

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">“Jamaican history,” wrote Karl Marx, “is characteristic of the beastliness of the true Englishman”</span></span>

[johnnycakes]

Re: &quot;Independence only brought crime and violence to Jamaica

For 500yrs we as a society has been schooled in European variety of violence and self hatred, with continuous interventions to keep us poor, destitute and desperate.
Do you really believe that 50yrs of in-dependence, could wipe that away?
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Aid IS Imperialism



Back in 1776 the United States achieved independence from the British Empire that is to say that the people here exchanged one form of non-democratic rule for another.
It never achieved independence from the economic totalitarianism that is capitalism
Those who controlled, in the most dictatorial fashion possible, the economic lives of all. still remained in power.

So too it was with Jamaica. Jamaicans traded the absolute power of British rule for the absolute power of the new political parties and the capitalism they are in partnership with.


Jamaicans have little more say in who rules them than they did when they were a colony in the electoral sense. Instead of England imposing a governor, the parties impose candidate who do what the parties want them to do and in either case; king or party, the interests of the Jamaican people are not what are most important to them.

This can't happen until the voters choose and control their representatives and not the parties.

So independence from Britain in and of itself is neither responsible nor culpable for what exists in Jamaica today.

It is the lack of control that the people have over their economic and political lives.

But I know better because I've been told by the experts here that is is all Michael Manley's fault or Edward Seaga's fault.
It's not really that Jamaica has an electoral system that can't work and an economic system that can't work.
I was just joking when I said that..