Mugabe's Land reform driving economic growth in Zimbabwe.

[franksterr]

In spite of sanctions which are still in place.

Has Mugabe been vindicated?



South Africans, Zimbabwean, Garikai Chengu, Land Democratisation Programme, Researcher at Harvard University, Faculty of Arts and Sciences, Rainbow, Limpopo, Seventy, State, South Africa, North, Government

Land reform driving economic growth By: Gari Chengu Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:49 am THE Minister of Finace has said that Zimbabwe's economy is set to grow at over eight percent. Largely thanks to a surge in agricultural production from beneficiaries of the Land Democratisation Programme. Agrarian reform is cultivating the rise of an indigenous agrarian middle class, capable of serving not only as the drive-chain of an agriculture-led economic recovery, but also as a regional beacon for the attainability of agrarian economic independence. The , Land Democratisation Programme is proving to be a resounding success on three major fronts: firstly, ownership and indigenisation; secondly increased exports and tobacco production and finally, serving as encouragement for swifter agrarian reform across southern Africa. Regarding ownership and indigenisation, land democratisation has been largely egalitarian and broad-based. Land previously owned by 4000 white commercial farmers is now shared between 300,000 families. Article continues below , Seventy per cent of the redistributed land has benefited 220,000 poor rural families and their urban counterparts, who on average have acquired 20 hectares of land. The remaining land has benefited 80,000 new small to medium-scale commercial farmers with an average of 100 hectares. A small number of large-scale commercial farmers remain, including both white and black farmers, but their land sizes have been greatly reduced to 700 hectares on average. This is much lower than the average of 2000 hectares held by the previous 4000 landowners

http://newzimsituation.com/land-reform-driving-economic-growth-on-the-zimbabwe-guardian-99904.htm

[Wahalla]

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there will be growth....They stabilised the currency by dollarisation.. they began to produce.. Previously they were not...There is a couple stories that I cannot give a link to or a U tube video of... where land that was distribuuuted to war veterans, has now been apropriated to a number of party apartitchicks.... And as for production... A minining company that I have a small investment in has began producing shiny metal.. Zimbabwaye is the place to invest in at the moment it seems...

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Mugabe's Land reform driving economic growth in Zimbabwe.

The western economic powers will sabotage it.

Just wait and see.

They can't allow it yo be an example of the benefits of indigenous land ownership.

As I said then the only solution to perpetual poverty in the third world is indigenous ownership of the factors of production.
And to keep the profits reinvested in the economy.

[franksterr]

Re: Mugabe's Land reform driving economic growth in Zimbabwe.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The western economic powers will sabotage it.

Just wait and see.

They can't allow it yo be an example of the benefits of indigenous land ownership.

As I said then the only solution to perpetual poverty in the third world is indigenous ownership of the factors of production.
And to keep the profits reinvested in the economy. </div></div>

They will try and fail.

They have atready lost several rounds to Mugabe's Zimbabwe.

[johnnycakes]

Re: Mugabe's Land reform driving economic growth in Zimbabwe

Want to read something totally depressing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Zimbabwe

Among other things, the Wikipedia article says that unemployment and poverty rates are both at 80% in Zimbabwe . HIV/AIDS is rampant.
Go read the areticle and just Google poverty in Zimbabwe .

I just can't believe the cheerful tone of the other posts.

[franksterr]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Want to read something totally depressing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Zimbabwe</div></div>

Always take wikipedia info with a huge grain of salt, I know you know that....its open source info.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Among other things, the Wikipedia article says that unemployment and poverty rates are both at 80% in Zimbabwe . HIV/AIDS is rampant.</div></div>

HIV/AIDS in Afrika is a political issue for western media houses, meaning that what constitutes AIDS in Africa would not be considered AIDS in America, Canada or Europe. HIV does not cause AIDS and the test are scams.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Go read the areticle and just Google poverty in Zimbabwe .

I just can't believe the cheerful tone of the other posts.
</div></div>

Poverty was much worse among black Zimbabweans before Mugabe
Zimbabwe
Zimbabwe is succeeding in its struggle with the west and it means AFRICKA IS AWAKENING

[jah_yout]

Re: Mugabe's Land reform driving economic growth in Zimbabwe

it's amazing how different the stories are depending on the source

[johnnycakes]

Re: Mugabe's Land reform driving economic growth in Zimbabwe

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's amazing how different the stories are depending on the source </div></div>

True true but the internet is right there for all to research. That sub-Saharan African nations are in dire economic straits cannot be denied based on the overwhelming evidence. That some of them may be making SMALL progress towards alleviating the worst human living conditions on Earth also cannot be denied but to think that these small improvements point toward a turnaround in any serious way is to deny the past failure and the impossibility of capitalism in underdeveloped countries to remedy the problems it causes.

[johnnycakes]

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. HIV/AIDS is rampant.[/quote]

HIV/AIDS in Afrika is a political issue for western media houses, meaning that what constitutes AIDS in Africa would not be considered AIDS in America, Canada or Europe. HIV does not cause AIDS and the test are scams.



I Googled this up and could find nothing that supports your contention Franksterr except possibly for Rand Paul's politically motivated and nonscientific nonsense.

http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/lecture/hiv13a.htm

[jah_yout]

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[franksterr]

Re: Mugabe's Land reform driving economic growth in Zimbabwe

johnnycakes.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
HIV/AIDS in Afrika is a political issue for western media houses, meaning that what constitutes AIDS in Africa would not be considered AIDS in America, Canada or Europe. HIV does not cause AIDS and the test are scams.




I Googled this up and could find nothing that supports your contention Franksterr except possibly for Rand Paul's politically motivated and nonscientific nonsense.



http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/lecture/hiv13a.htm </div></div>

AIDS in africa is a Myth created by Western politicians and perpetuated by greedy African politicians and big pharma. AIDS is being used to fullfill a eugenics agenda, to commit genocide against Afrikans with the use of drugs, family planning and selffulling propaganda....It has failed miserable,
Aids was supposed to kill 2billion people by the yr two thousand, due to its unreliable infectiousness they have begun using condoms and drugs to increase its infection rate.

[Archie68]

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Posted by Mugabe's regime? 8% is great from what base?

Africans can only blame the white man for so much. That was weak.

We see mental slavery at work here. And we see those bonded to this mental slavery.

[franksterr]

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Archie68

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Posted by Mugabe's regime? 8% is great from what base?</div></div>

It is an improvement, it is growth....which the enemies of Zimbabwe does not want to see.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Africans can only blame the white man for so much. That was weak.</div></div>

It not blame or weak when its the truth, its the realization of power.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We see mental slavery at work here. And we see those bonded to this mental slavery. </div></div>

I see one who thinks he is free, whilst his mind is chained to racist propaganda

[Archie68]

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want proofPropaganda? Frank, you are writing about the wrong person. I am alright with that.

So, you claim the people of Zimbabwe prosper? Do you claim they have prospered in the past ten years? Where was the white man?

As a man, I ask you, have the people prospered? So keep the anti-propaganda thing going. Answer the real issues.

I have mentioned the &quot;chest beating negroes&quot; before. I refer to the hard core black man that is not in the fight himself or have any idea what the fight is. Are you one of those? I was once.

Do you know that black people in South Africa murder people from Zimbabwe?

Propaganda? Do you want proof? I do not laugh at you, I cry.

People like you still look to the white man. I do not pity you, I pity us. People like you are a burden with no positive potential. Perhaps, your child will be free.

[franksterr]

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Archie68

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">want proofPropaganda? Frank, you are writing about the wrong person. I am alright with that.</div></div>

Who is the wrong person? Mugabe?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, you claim the people of Zimbabwe prosper? Do you claim they have prospered in the past ten years? Where was the white man?</div></div>

No they did not prosper, the white man had sanctions imposed for most if not all of the last ten yrs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As a man, I ask you, have the people prospered? So keep the anti-propaganda thing going. Answer the real issues. </div></div>

They are doing better than they ever did under white rule

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have mentioned the &quot;chest beating negroes&quot; before. I refer to the hard core black man that is not in the fight himself or have any idea what the fight is. Are you one of those? I was once. </div></div>

We all have our roles, some of us will have to fight, some to carry water or signs, others to spread the news while others just to tell their neighbors.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you know that black people in South Africa murder people from Zimbabwe? </div></div>
Yes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Propaganda? Do you want proof? I do not laugh at you, I cry.

People like you still look to the white man. I do not pity you, I pity us. People like you are a burden with no positive potential. Perhaps, your child will be free. </div></div>

keep you tears and pity I look to Mugabe's leadership of Zimbabwe, when last I check he was a blackman