Glen Beck the most dangerous man in America

[RichD]

there are a lot of Kooks around but this one seems to have far reaching influence.

[johnnycakes]

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I think you meant kooks not cooks.
Glenn Beck is only as dangerous as the morons who actually believe what he says.
The same as Hitler only not as clever. Appeal to the masses on an emotional level rather than to their higher, more moral instincts, basically by supplying simplistic answers to complex problems. People in the United States often prefer a something incorrect but easy to understand than something that is absolutely correct but more complex.

A good analogy would be the choice of bird-brained George Bush over the more intellectual Al Gore. The American people chose the guy they would rather have a beer with.


Fortunately Beck is just an entertainer. As a politician , he'd be laughed out of any debates.
You cannot lose sight of the fact that radio talk show hosts, in the format in which they gained their fame, face not only NO opposition but are further supported by the pro-Beck, Limbaugh, etc callers who are the only ones allowed on the air by the call screeners.
If they had to debate competent opposition they would not have a show for very long because they often deal in hyperbole and erroneous suppositions and you cannot win debates with what they have to say. The bigger likelihood is getting laughed out of the room.

[RichD]

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yes i did mean Kook

[Dr.Dudd]

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The education policy the country follows create the tools for people like glen Beck to use to return the could try to it's primitive past.

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there are a lot of Kooks around but this one seems to have far reaching influence. </div></div>

The most dangerous man in America would be the person that would stop free speech. Is that what you want? Do you want free speech to be stopped just because you don't agree with it? That's more dangerous than any Glenn Beck, Rush Limpball or for that matter Michael Moore.

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there are a lot of Kooks around but this one seems to have far reaching influence. </div></div>

The most dangerous man in America would be the person that would stop free speech. Is that what you want? Do you want free speech to be stopped just because you don't agree with it? That's more dangerous than any Glenn Beck, Rush Limpball or for that matter Michael Moore.
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the typical hysterical response ..
nobody is trying to stop free speech...just pointing out what he is.

its funny ..these guys free speech is defended to the grave but any criticism of them is painted as an attack on free speech.

[remob1]

Re: Glen Beck the most dangerous man in America

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there are a lot of Kooks around but this one seems to have far reaching influence. </div></div>

The most dangerous man in America would be the person that would stop free speech. Is that what you want? Do you want free speech to be stopped just because you don't agree with it? That's more dangerous than any Glenn Beck, Rush Limpball or for that matter Michael Moore.
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If most of the bile that comes out of his mouth is what passes for free speech?..Then yes I want to stop free speech......

Their is a saying that goes like this.......If you are young and not a liberal then you have no heart And if you are old and not a conservative then you have no brain!!!!!!!...People like you who under the guise of free speech condone this sort of behaviour have no brain


The term conservative/liberal I is not intending to mean republican/democrat

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If most of the bile that comes out of his mouth is what passes for free speech?..Then yes I want to stop free speech...... </div></div>

That's fine. Move to Cuba where you should be more comfortable with that thought process.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">People like you who under the guise of free speech condone this sort of behaviour have no brain
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I don't condone anything. Especially your stupid knee jerk reaction to my statement.
I find your ignorance as repulsive as Beck, Limpball and the liar Moore,
But that said you should have the right to express your thoughts regardless of how wrong and misguided your statements are.

That's the beauty of freedom of speech....regardless of how ugly it can sometimes be.

[RichD]

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one of the problems i have with this is that rather than enhancing the democratic process it has the effect of stifling it.

Politicians ave become afraid to go against these guys with their large audiences..they know that explaining their position to a crowd of 5000 is no match for the millions these guys reach with their misinformation.

[RichD]

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so fox run out of patience wid him

[RichD]

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him sey 'you on the left will crap your pants more than when you were a baby ..and you will find religion praying to Jesus that beck will just do 5 oclock on fox news&quot;

[johnnycakes]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so fox run out of patience wid him </div></div>


RichD,
Probably one of two things: Beck was getting too controversial with the lunatic conspiracies and other outrageous things all of his ilk say to get the mouth breathers to watch them and Fox was losing audience and revenue or Beck thinks he can run his own little empire and make billions doing so,

It's all about money.

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so fox run out of patience wid him </div></div>

These things run in cycles. What's popular today is not popular tomorrow.
Hey, remember &quot;The Pet Rock&quot;. People actually paid money for a rock in a box.
Beck is a rock in box.....Of course, to the other extreme so is Michael Moore.

[johnnycakes]

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&quot;Beck is a rock in box.....Of course, to the other extreme so is Michael Moore.&quot;


While this might seem truthful and logical at first glance it is actually nonsensical.
I have listened to and read Glenn Beck I have read Michael Moore and seen his films.


As it is with any right wing talk show host, Glenn Beck exaggerates, makes up things and does so deliberately to gain an audience. He is extreme and illogical at the same time. He is regularly ridiculed because much of what he says is so off the wall.
His appeal is to the uninformed/misinformed/disinformed blue collar audience who usually have problems pronouncing Iraq correctly and want to blame the poor and the immigrants for all that is wrong with the United States and in their lives.

Michael Moore has his critics on the right and in the businesses he attacks but when you look at the criticisms they are very few and amount to nit picking.
He uses a certain amount of cinematic hyperbole but that does not detract from the basic truth of what he has to say.


All this to say that you cannot make any comparisons between Beck and Moore. They are apples and oranges. Moore is factual to sell his point of view while Beck is (deliberately) fictitious to do the same.


All you can fairly say is that they espouse different philosophies.


You have to remember that the truth does have a left bias.
Moore is a progressive and therefore somewhat left of center. Beck is to the right of the most sensible right winger and then tops it off with bizarre conspiracy theories.


Here in Boston, one of the three right wing radio talk show stations release/fired Jay Severin who had been suspended once before for insulting Mexicans and most recently said that molesting interns was a boss's right and that he had either done it or would do it. Severin had also once said that they should nuke Mecca if there was another 9/11 type attack from a Moslem country .
I used to listen to him for an hour or so several times a week but usually would up shutting him off when he got particularly obnoxious or went off a la Beck.
His ratings had dropped way down and the station was probably looking for ways to dump him and he finally gave them due cause.

Also here in Boston, Rush Radio ran into financial difficulties and was bought out. It still carries right wing talk shows including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity etc but they too are having ratings problems.

Is America smartening up or is this just a regional thing ?

[lonewolf]

Re: Glen Beck the most dangerous man in America

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;Beck is a rock in box.....Of course, to the other extreme so is Michael Moore.&quot;


While this might seem truthful and logical at first glance it is actually <span style="font-weight: bold">nonsensical.</span>
I have listened to and read Glenn Beck I have read Michael Moore and seen his films. </div></div>

No it's not. You are a Moore fan, and he is of your own ilk. You don't see the similarities because you are in agreement with his hyper-bole let's show only half the truth nonsense. Moore and Beck are alike, but at opposite ends of the spectrum.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also here in Boston, <span style="font-weight: bold">Rush Radio ran into financial difficulties </span>and was bought out. It still carries right wing talk shows including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity etc but they too are having ratings problems.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Is America smartening up or is this just a regional thing ?</span> </div></div>


I don't know if it's smartening up or they are just bored with the nonsense, maybe a little of both.

In Baltimore they dropped Limpball from the 50,000 watt radio flame thrower station WBAL about two years ago. Ratings were dropping like a rock.
Many people like myself are tired of being lied to by the left and the right.

There is nothing left but cynicism.