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Re: A Left View On Libya
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You simply have to catch up with the times </div></div>
You need to simply catch up with the past and accept historical facts.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are your own worst enemy in trying to present a case against the Cuban revolution with preposterous accusations that have been thoroughly discredited over the years </div></div>
Cakes, there are I (sic) witness accounts of the slaughter at La Cabana by Che from the direct orders of Castro. You again are in denial because you are not able to distinguish documented facts from your opinion or what you WANT to believe as the truth.
This is a perfect example of your inabilty to recognize one from another. </div></div>
So Wolfie,
There was a revolution in Cuba in 1959. That revolution was caused by several things not the least of which was the murders and torturesof the Batista government.
When you have a revolution of this sort, the murderers and torturers of the previous regime naturally go on trial or are shot during the revolution and there is no question that Batista and his regime was a vicious dictatorship and that there were plenty more people who worked for Batista who should have been executed but who are living comfortable lives in the United States.
Look at the dates of the executions. They are all during the period immediately following the revolution. People who lose revolutions often face death sentences for what they have done while in power. Fidel and Che were no more murderers than were George Washington and his army.
Think about it. Were you to be posting that George Washington killed thousands of his own people, that he was a murderer because he killed people to win his revolution, you'd be thought of as loony. What Che and Fidel and the victors did in Cuba was no different. It's the nature of revolutions but you stand it on it's head; instead of murderers and torturers receiving what they deserve, you make them poor innocent victims and blame the leaders of a revolution for being killers.
If you'd care to vouch for every person or even many executed by the revolution as innocents then you're a fool.
Read some objective and scholarly books on Cuba or read things at havanatimes.org or
at places like this to get a grip on reality.
What you're saying and posting comes from far right and discredited counter-revolutionary sources. They are on a par with Glenn Beck as far as hyperbole and sensationalism and getting it all wrong is concerned.
In fact, POST YOUR SOURCES for the claims on La Habana so we can all see the depth of your research on the information that has you calling Che and Fidel murderers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You simply have to catch up with the times </div></div>
You need to simply catch up with the past and accept historical facts.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are your own worst enemy in trying to present a case against the Cuban revolution with preposterous accusations that have been thoroughly discredited over the years </div></div>
Cakes, there are I (sic) witness accounts of the slaughter at La Cabana by Che from the direct orders of Castro. You again are in denial because you are not able to distinguish documented facts from your opinion or what you WANT to believe as the truth.
This is a perfect example of your inabilty to recognize one from another. </div></div>
So Wolfie,
There was a revolution in Cuba in 1959. That revolution was caused by several things not the least of which was the murders and torturesof the Batista government.
When you have a revolution of this sort, the murderers and torturers of the previous regime naturally go on trial or are shot during the revolution and there is no question that Batista and his regime was a vicious dictatorship and that there were plenty more people who worked for Batista who should have been executed but who are living comfortable lives in the United States.
Look at the dates of the executions. They are all during the period immediately following the revolution. People who lose revolutions often face death sentences for what they have done while in power. Fidel and Che were no more murderers than were George Washington and his army.
Think about it. Were you to be posting that George Washington killed thousands of his own people, that he was a murderer because he killed people to win his revolution, you'd be thought of as loony. What Che and Fidel and the victors did in Cuba was no different. It's the nature of revolutions but you stand it on it's head; instead of murderers and torturers receiving what they deserve, you make them poor innocent victims and blame the leaders of a revolution for being killers.
If you'd care to vouch for every person or even many executed by the revolution as innocents then you're a fool.
Read some objective and scholarly books on Cuba or read things at havanatimes.org or
at places like this to get a grip on reality.
What you're saying and posting comes from far right and discredited counter-revolutionary sources. They are on a par with Glenn Beck as far as hyperbole and sensationalism and getting it all wrong is concerned.
In fact, POST YOUR SOURCES for the claims on La Habana so we can all see the depth of your research on the information that has you calling Che and Fidel murderers.
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