Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

[Tuff Gong]

Sun Jul 29, 2007
Patient beaten, left untreated, at Kingston Public Hospital

Employees of the Kingston Public Hospital (KPH) and members of the Lamasa Group (a company which provides janitorial services) assigned to the institution assaulted an injured patient in the presence of a member of the RJR News team Saturday night.

The man with bloodied bandages all over his face was literally kicked out of the hospital by one of his attackers as security personnel and other workers shouted their support.

The man came into the Assessment area clearly angry.

Ranting, he took out his Blue Cross Health card and demanded immediate attention.

The cause of his fury was unclear.

As the patient vented, a gesticulating male staff member accosted and threatened him.

This precipitated a heated argument.

At least five young men attired in full blue took on the man as others looked on.

Attempts to separate the man from the attacking staff members were futile as they unleashed blows and dragged him outside the Assessment Department before kicking him to the pavement.

During the melee, the patient left behind his health card with the name Hepburn Hutchinson.

A female staff member threatened to report the Assessment Officer on duty because we had seized the opportunity to examine the health card.

Persons who claim to frequent KPH, including taxi operators, say assaults on injured patients have become a regular occurrence.

But nothing is being done about it.

Recently, a person assigned to the Assessment Department complained bitterly that she had witnessed an assault by a member of the security team on an elderly patient who complained about deficiencies in the system.

But the security guard remains on duty.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/news/story.php?category=2&story=38192

[Q3210]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

Stresssss stressss.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?


The whole place drink mad-puss soup!

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?


Mon Jul 30, 2007
KPH administration silent on attack on injured patient

More than 24 hours after employees of the Kingston Public Hospital (KPH) and janitorial workers employed by Lamasa attacked an injured patient, no word has been forthcoming from hospital administrators.

The attack took place in the presence of a member of the RJR News team.

Since our News Centre broke the story Sunday, the matter has attracted widespread interest.

Members of the public have been calling with what they described as their own experiences.

However, security personnel assigned to the KPH are claiming that there is more to the story, but declined to say.

On Saturday night, our reporter witnessed an angry patient with bloodied bandages all over his face, shouting in the assessment area.

He was accosted by a tall, gesticulating, male staff member from the cashier/registration unit.

During a heated exchange, the patient was set upon by at least five men attired in blue uniforms, worn by Lamasa workers.

They rained blows on the injured patient and dragged him out of the Assessment area, before kicking him to the pavement.

This is in the presence of a small crowd of persons comprising security personnel, Lamasa and KPH workers.

During the melee, the patient left behind his health card with the name Hepburn Hutchinson inscribed.

A female staff member threatened to report the matter because the reporter had examined the health card.

She referred to staff policy, but could not say what the reporter had done.

Persons who claim to frequent KPH, including taxi operators and vendors say assaults on patients have become commonplace.

Recently, a staff member complained that a security guard assaulted an elderly patient, who was fussing about deficiencies in the system.

This took place more than two months ago, but the security guard remains on duty.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/news/story.php?category=2&story=38210

[Wahalla]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

I listened to Perkins.. I found out it was started as a charitable insitution... Guess the use of force has long replaced charity....

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I listened to Perkins.. I found out it was started as a charitable insitution... Guess the use of force has long replaced charity.... </div></div>

I think it is the natural animal reaction.... destroy the more sickly to save the species.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I listened to Perkins.. I found out it was started as a charitable insitution... Guess the use of force has long replaced charity.... </div></div>
Well it started out as a slave hospital and the treatment use to include lashes on the back on discharge.
So violence to patients has been a part of it's tradition for over 100 years.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I listened to Perkins.. I found out it was started as a charitable insitution... Guess the use of force has long replaced charity.... </div></div>
Well it started out as a slave hospital and the treatment use to include lashes on the back on discharge.
So violence to patients has been a part of it's tradition for over 100 years. </div></div>

Can you supply proof?

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I listened to Perkins.. I found out it was started as a charitable insitution... Guess the use of force has long replaced charity.... </div></div>
Well it started out as a slave hospital and the treatment use to include lashes on the back on discharge.
So violence to patients has been a part of it's tradition for over 100 years. </div></div>

Can you supply proof? </div></div>Read you history. You willfind all the proof you need under Kingston Public Hoapital . The oldest hospital in the English speaking Caribbean. As a matter of fact it is older than every hospital in the US.
One more piece of history Jamaica hade professional nurses before the US too.
You can reasd that too.
Now abouty the proof. What goive you any right ot demand proof of me??
Am I in your employ?

[Joemaican]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

You have been warned Tuff Gong.
We are not going back to your usual gutter behavior here.
I have no time to baby sit you any more.
You behave so childish.
You must be a very inti-social person in real life.
You have been banned here for the same behavior so many times, yet you return with it like a toddler.

[Wahalla]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joemaican</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have been warned Tuff Gong.
We are not going back to your usual gutter behavior here.
I have no time to baby sit you any more.
You behave so childish.
You must be a very inti-social person in real life.
You have been banned here for the same behavior so many times, yet you return with it like a toddler. </div></div>

you ban some body because he asks for proof ???????

Sorry but I was about to ask the Doc for the same thing... How if I asked the Doc for a source to verify his assertion ?????

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joemaican</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have been warned Tuff Gong.
We are not going back to your usual gutter behavior here.
I have no time to baby sit you any more.
You behave so childish.
You must be a very inti-social person in real life.
You have been banned here for the same behavior so many times, yet you return with it like a toddler. </div></div>

you ban some body because he asks for proof ???????

Sorry but I was about to ask the Doc for the same thing... How if I asked the Doc for a source to verify his assertion ?????


</div></div>

LOL...!
Here is a fool (and I have the proof), who spent many days and nights BHTS, trying to get me blocked from the board.
I would not even grace this idiot's post with an answer, suffice to say if he going to ban a least keep my reply to Dr. Dumb on the board so John Public can see what the ban is about.

Dem conscience wrap roun dem neck
and it a heng dem
wi noh com yahso fi fren dem
Conscience Ah Heng Dem-Capelton,

There is always Itube and Gleaner Elections Forum, so this idiot can kiss my black-a$$.

[Wahalla]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joemaican</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have been warned Tuff Gong.
We are not going back to your usual gutter behavior here.
I have no time to baby sit you any more.
You behave so childish.
You must be a very inti-social person in real life.
You have been banned here for the same behavior so many times, yet you return with it like a toddler. </div></div>

you ban some body because he asks for proof ???????

Sorry but I was about to ask the Doc for the same thing... How if I asked the Doc for a source to verify his assertion ?????


</div></div>

LOL...!
Here is a fool (and I have the proof), who spent many days and nights BHTS, trying to get me blocked from the board.
I would not even grace this idiot's post with an answer, suffice to say if he going to ban a least keep my reply to Dr. Dumb on the board so John Public can see what the ban is about.

Dem conscience wrap roun dem neck
and it a heng dem
wi noh com yahso fi fren dem
Conscience Ah Heng Dem-Capelton,

There is always Itube and Gleaner Elections Forum, so this idiot can kiss my black-a$$.
</div></div>



Doc dont suppose you can direct me to a source where I can verify your assertion ?????

[Wardob]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joemaican</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have been warned Tuff Gong.
We are not going back to your usual gutter behavior here.
I have no time to baby sit you any more.
You behave so childish.
You must be a very inti-social person in real life.
You have been banned here for the same behavior so many times, yet you return with it like a toddler. </div></div>


The question have been asked before, I will ask it again is Dr.Dudd and Joemaican the same person?

What the man ask for was where to find the information, what’s up with that? No talks were made about banning the idiot who wrote that the MP Mike Henry is a gunman, and have distributed guns. When ask for proof he said his cousin told him so.

“There is always Itube and Gleaner Elections Forum,”.. Tuff

Tuff somehow I know this would happen to you, your videos have hit a sour note with the powers that be on this board.

[papaD]

Re: Patient beaten, untreated @ KPH?

Crikey!!!

Where did that statement come from Joemaican? I feel I needed to write this publicly as I am not sure where it is going.

Tuff has had his moments but I fail, with respect to see where the statement made between Tuff and Doc warranted that response. I hope you are just having a bad day. I think accountability cuts all ways from reading the rules unless I have mis-interpreted this and I stand to be corrected.

From someone who doesn't post very often - more often than not Tuff is good value and has an integrity about him that is refreshing at least you know where you are. I don't always agree with him or others but that is the beauty of politics and it doesn't have to lead to flaming of this sort. Maybe we shouldn't be passionate but have the anonodyne politics that have anaesthtised our consciences in the US and UK which includes myself.

I have to be honest - I am surprised as are others.

I hope robust discussion might continue and we will challenge one other but model what we want to see on the ground in Jamaica during this election period. That said...

As someone who has worked in a major public hospital in the UK - I would have been very concerned to see this - how we care for our young, elderly and sick is a barometer of a nation's moral and social pulse. KPH from all it's press seems to be at the frontline of social and moral conflicts in recent history and it seems flashpoints like these need some investigations that are robust. I wonder whether any form of 'independent' inquiry is taking place - maybe there should be a health ombudsman with teeth as there could be as a result of any substantiation a criminal investigation, though I might be stating the obvious.