Prophets Say Sorry...

[SmoothOperator]

Well I guess there is always the next election.

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070921/lead/lead3.html

Prophets say sorry
published: Friday | September 21, 2007

The prophetic movement in Jamaica has finally broken its silence after the results of the 2007 General Election whereby one of its major prophecies for the year failed to materialise.

Contrary to previous predictions made by members of the prophetic movement, in which the Rev. Dr. Phillip Phinn, self-proclaimed prophet and senior pastor of the Word of Life Ministries International, had declared that Portia Simpson Miller would be victorious in the general election, the Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) emerged victors and today forms the Government of Jamaica.

In a statement to the media yesterday, Bishop C.B. Peter Morgan, of City Life Ministries, officially apologised to the public on the behalf of the local prophetic community with respect to the outcome of the general election.

Members of the local prophetic community, led by Dr. Phinn had before the elections, emphatically stated that the PNP would secure a fifth consecutive term.

Bishop Morgan asked for the public's forgiveness in instances where "there appeared to be elements of pride and arrogance in the manner in which their prophecies were presented".

According to Bishop Morgan, since the release of the results of the general election, he has held a series of meetings with members of the prophetic movement and some church leaders who have supported it over the years.

"It has been a time of sincere soul searching, introspection and evaluation of the conduct of our main spokesmen," he said.

[Q3210]

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Good that you brought this in. The article however is inaccurate as pointed out by Mottie Perkins this morning on POWER 106 FM.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> had declared that Portia Simpson Miller would be victorious in the general election, </div></div>

The pathetic false prophets were true to word, pathetically false. It is on record that what they said was that <u>God</u> had already given victory to the PNP, long before election day.

[Q3210]

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What dem really sorry `bout is dat their Mother lost. No way would they admit to false prophesising and influencing the electorate.

[Q3210]

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diss mekking mi laff....what a ting....2 topics identical in words....different in forums and topic-starters.

[SmoothOperator]

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Well the election prophecy may not have come to fruition, but surely the prediction about oil, gas and precious minerals being discovered in Jamaica must come to pass.

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070410/lead/lead3.html

Meanwhile, Dr. Phinn, who at the start of the year not only declared that Mrs. Simpson Miller was chosen by God to rule Jamaica, also said news will come shortly that Jamaica has oil.

In a prayer toward the end of the service he commanded Jamaica's land to give up her oil, gas and precious minerals.

[Q3210]

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Reminds me of a bottled solution on the shelves of shops many years ago called Jamaican Healing Oil....and another one called Canadian Healing Oil.

[Q3210]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well the election prophecy may not have come to fruition, but surely the prediction about oil, gas and precious minerals being discovered in Jamaica must come to pass.

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070410/lead/lead3.html

Meanwhile, Dr. Phinn, who at the start of the year not only declared that Mrs. Simpson Miller was chosen by God to rule Jamaica, also said news will come shortly that Jamaica has oil.

In a prayer toward the end of the service he commanded Jamaica's land to give up her oil, gas and precious minerals. </div></div>

Him sound more like ah teef or a rapist.

[johnnycakes]

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http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070410/lead/lead3.html

Meanwhile, Dr. Phinn, who at the start of the year not only declared that Mrs. Simpson Miller was chosen by God to rule Jamaica, also said news will come shortly that Jamaica has oil.

In a prayer toward the end of the service he commanded Jamaica's land to give up her oil, gas and precious minerals. [/quote]

Him sound more like ah teef or a rapist. [/quote]

And a real good question would be: What kind of fool and how many of these fools listen to this man and actually believe what he says?
Why does he deserve any mention in the media?

[Q3210]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070410/lead/lead3.html

Meanwhile, Dr. Phinn, who at the start of the year not only declared that Mrs. Simpson Miller was chosen by God to rule Jamaica, also said news will come shortly that Jamaica has oil.

In a prayer toward the end of the service he commanded Jamaica's land to give up her oil, gas and precious minerals. </div></div>

Him sound more like ah teef or a rapist. [/quote]

And a real good question would be: What kind of fool and how many of these fools listen to this man and actually believe what he says?
Why does he deserve any mention in the media? [/quote]

Because JC, there are many fools that other fools make news for.

Some of the Christian following in Jamaica are fundamental fools.
They believe literally everything out of the bible and the mouths of self-proclaimed prophets.
Portia, though she thought it smart to work and attract that section of the electorate by befriending the church and its prophets, I think is of like mind of fools, shallow and lacking in character.

[johnnycakes]

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[And a real good question would be: What kind of fool and how many of these fools listen to this man and actually believe what he says?
Why does he deserve any mention in the media? [/quote]

Because JC, there are many fools that other fools make news for.

Some of the Christian following in Jamaica are fundamental fools.
They believe literally everything out of the bible and the mouths of self-proclaimed prophets.
Portia, though she thought it smart to work and attract that section of the electorate by befriending the church and its prophets, I think is of like mind of fools, shallow and lacking in character. [/quote]


Q3210,
Not dissimilar at all to the Republicans in the U.S. kissing up to the crazy fundamentalist "Christians" in the U.S. on issues like gay marriage and abortion and then doing nothing about those issues once they win because they cannot given the popularity of a woman's right to have an abortion and the large number of in-the- closet gay Republicans.

There is a popular bumper sticker in the States that reads "Question Authority".

I believe that a large part of the problem with both countries is that people look up to and respect WITHOUT QUESTION the authority of those above them in the political sphere because they are taught from an early age to do just that with God, Jesus, Mary, the Saints and their religious leaders.

They conflate the fear, unquestioning obedience and faith they have in their religious fantasy world with the very grim reality of the real world and that unquestioning faith in their politicians when they are definitely NOT moral leaders people is what is screwing up both countries.

[Q3210]

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A fear instilled from an early age, is the definite no no of going to hell if you do something bad.

The questioning of authourity and the questioning of the bible/church are things people dont think about, because they allow themselves to be continuously covered by subjectivity.

To be sceptical is to be rude and out of place.

That is why I like Mottie Perkins Jamaica`s devil. He is fearless when questioning both authority and the status quo.

Without revolutionary minds we are bound to be stuck in the same mud for generations of time to come.

Creative and innovative minds are much too dynamic in nature to be stuck up by what is accepted over the years, hook line and sinker.

[johnnycakes]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Q3210</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A fear instilled from an early age, is the definite no no of going to hell if you do something bad.

The questioning of authourity and the questioning of the bible/church are things people dont think about, because they allow themselves to be continuously covered by subjectivity.

To be sceptical is to be rude and out of place.

That is why I like Mottie Perkins Jamaica`s devil. He is fearless when questioning both authority and the status quo.

Without revolutionary minds we are bound to be stuck in the same mud for generations of time to come.

Creative and innovative minds are much too dynamic in nature to be stuck up by what is accepted over the years, hook line and sinker. </div></div>



Yes Q3210,
But the problem is that for every creative and innovative person in countries like Jamaica and the U.S. there are 1000 sheep who go along to get along and for one reason or another do not question what people in authority tell them
They often just think that BECAUSE these people are in authority that they must know better than they do.

George Bush is a perfect example of why this is not true and why authority NEEDS to be questioned.

What would be good is more popular involvement in democracy both in the electoral arena and in the economy.

People down deep know what is best for them and do not need people in nice suits to tell them what they need.

True, in a representative democracy they may need those people to take care of taking care of business while they go about making a living but NOT to become the dictators the politicians and their parties have become.

[SmoothOperator]

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What I find interesting is that considering that there are only two major parties one has a 50/50 chance of successfully predicting the outcome of the election. The fact that these 'prophets' got this wrong does not speak well to their claim of having the gift of prophecy. How seriously can one take their other predictions about certain events happening in a specific month of the year when they failed to get an 'easy' one right ?