Police Federation wants action

[Tuff Gong]

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Police Federation wants action </span>
Thursday, 06 December 2007

The Police Federation Thursday wrote to the Acting Commissioner of Police, Jevene Bent, requesting a boost in resources in St. James following the killing of three policemen in the parish in recent weeks.

Chairman of the Federation Corporal Raymond Wilson, said there has been hardly any response to the rampant killing of police personnel.

He said after meeting as a group, the Federation thought it prudent to write to the Acting Commissioner for her to look at the situation in Montego Bay from an operational point of view, and make recommendations for additional resources to be made available to the police in that division.

He said the Federation believes this would have an impact on the level of criminality in the parish.

Corporal Wilson said Federation members will be heading to Montego Bay to offer support to officers in that region.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/3632/26/

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Fight looming over the post of Police Commissioner </span>
Thursday, 06 December 2007

The Police Officers Association (POA) and the authorities are on the brink of a legal showdown over the appointment of Rear Admiral Hardley Lewin as Commissioner of Police.

Members of the POA are in the process of hiring an attorney to take their case to the Supreme Court.

Members of the Central Executive met Wednesday with attorney-at-law Bert Samuels.

Senior members of the executive told the RJR News that they will be seeking an injunction to block the appointment of Mr. Lewin, pending the outcome of a suit filed against the Police Service Commission.

Mr. Samuels confirmed that he is now in discussions with the POA.

Chairman of the POA, Superintendent Norman Heywood also confirmed the meeting, but he declined to talk about the discussions.

The POA is contending that the Police Services Commission breached section 17 of the Police Service Regulation when it advertised the post of Police Commissioner before interviewing any of the senior officers.

Rear Admiral Lewin is expected to take up his post on December 17.

The former army chief will be on contract with the JCF on gratuity terms, for three years.

Admiral Lewin replaces former Commissioner Lucius Thomas, who retired in October.

He will be Jamaica's 26th Commissioner of Police.

It is understood that the Police Federation, which represents rank-and-file members, plans to support the POA.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/3633/26/

[evanovitch]

HEY TG..U did see di editorial cartoon bout di chice

wid Shields and my badbwoy police guy weh did wan di job...mi figet him name juss now...it was wikked mi tell u [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

yeah Renato

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Police Federation wants action

My view is that the Police Services Commission - and the Public Services Commission - should be abolished. Individuals whom these bodies would normally nominate should instead be nominated by the Prime Minister - in his capacity as the highest elected official of the executive branch - with an advise and consent role (to select or reject) being assigned to a bi-partisan committee of the House of Representatives or the Senate. Of course, the number of MPs/Senators should be an odd number with the ruling party having a slight majority. I think the PM should have a free hand to nominate people of his choice to fill crucial positions. Elections should have consequences.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Police Federation wants action

What happen if a rare event like the PM being involved in some criminal activity?? Who would or should be incharge of investigating him? A foreiogn entity??
You see Sir the running of a country takes a lot of mechanisms,that are not readily aparent the the average thinker.
One more thing.... How does the police federation know that serious intelligence is not being at work on the problem?
What they want to hear as order to round up and shoot the usuall nsuspects??

[evanovitch]

Re: Police Federation wants action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What happen if a rare event like the PM being involved in some criminal activity?? Who would or should be incharge of investigating him? A foreiogn entity??
You see Sir the running of a country takes a lot of mechanisms,that are not readily aparent the the average thinker.
One more thing.... How does the police federation know that serious intelligence is not being at work on the problem?
What they want to hear as order to round up and shoot the usuall nsuspects?? </div></div>

is who dem did wan fi investigate ur bass wid di sugga deal Doc? r it neva reach dat stage [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Police Federation wants action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What happen if a rare event like the PM being involved in some criminal activity?? Who would or should be incharge of investigating him? A foreiogn entity??
You see Sir the running of a country takes a lot of mechanisms,that are not readily aparent the the average thinker.</div></div>

Your typical condescending tone.

The powers of the PM, in specific reference to the scenario I mentioned above, would not, in any way, impinge on the prerogatives of any duly established and constitutionally empowered body to investigate acts of wrong-doing by the PM or any offical, and even with respect to impeachment. I have also argued on this board for a Jamaican Supreme Court that is truly supreme - it would be Jamaica's final appellate court. With a reform of the judical branch of government, it would be empowered to rule on the constitutionality of not just any act of Parliament, but of any excesses by the executive branch. This would be another system of checks and balances.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One more thing.... How does the police federation know that serious intelligence is not being at work on the problem?
What they want to hear as order to round up and shoot the usuall nsuspects??</div></div>

????????? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Police Federation wants action

I listened to NNW news I heard the Cpl Raymond Wilson of the Police Federation making the kind of wild, semi-literate, rants, whenever he opens his mouth. He is essentially calling for the MONS to come Wet-Nurse the Police and give them powers to shoot to kill.

Suffice to say he is talking nonsense; unfortunately we cannot dismiss it because this is historic. When was the last time you ever heard the JCF coming out against a MONS?
Never, never never, in my memory.
In my mind Bruce cannot step in front of D. Smith and take this bullet. He cannot shield D. Smith no more. He must expose him to the fire.
The other thing he can't do is to give these madmen and Oomen any more powers to kill, maim and destroy Jamaicans.

In Jamaica It cost more to train a policeman/ooman than it cost to train a doctor, what the hell are we getting for it?
I think as Bruce said let them come up with their Operational Strategies, just make sure they do it within the law and that a body is in place to make sure they do.

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Police Federation wants action

I don't know anything about this Lewin guy to form an opinion, other than I recall he had some verbal confrontation with then Opposition Leader Bruce Golding regarding shooting in Tivoli some time ago. I know that simply putting someone with a military background into the JCF is not enough to reform it. What if Lewin is the wrong person for the job? Well, Jamaica will have the Police Services Commission to thank for it, like the way the Public Services Commission wants Stephen Vacciannie, a known partisan, someone with a clear antipathy towards the current PM, appointed as Solicitor General - the government's lawyer.

While it may be a good thing, I don't see these two bodies being abolished anytime soon as I don't think that, under the current situation, there will be a bi-partisan effort to ammend the constitution to effect those changes.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Police Federation wants action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dyoll_73</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know anything about this Lewin guy to form an opinion, other than I recall he had some verbal confrontation with then Opposition Leader Bruce Golding regarding shooting in Tivoli some time ago. I know that simply putting someone with a military background into the JCF is not enough to reform it. What if Lewin is the wrong person for the job? Well, Jamaica will have the Police Services Commission to thank for it, like the way the Public Services Commission wants Stephen Vacciannie, a known partisan, someone with a clear antipathy towards the current PM, appointed as Solicitor General - the government's lawyer.

While it may be a good thing, I don't see these two bodies being abolished anytime soon as I don't think that, under the current situation, there will be a bi-partisan effort to ammend the constitution to effect those changes. </div></div>

All part of the <span style='font-size: 14pt'><span style="color: #CC0000">Nightmare</span>.</span>
The PNP as they say in Jamaica setup dem derricks!
A 5th column to take down the JLP Government.