..a dark day fi corrupt politicians,a BRIGHT day fi Jamaica.

[evanovitch]

Dr Dudd, since u seem to be in the know, ansa mi dis

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It seem like it happens so many times before and nothing seem to change aboput it. Even the present minister of finance stole government lands and sold it to Cool,, Oasis and still havent payd for it yet. It is just like the Crips and the Bloods gangs. they keep fighting over the crombs, while the country goes to waste. </div></div>

the good Dr R-son borrowed much from a failed bank to build a housing scheme...i can memba a newspaper report couple years bak about the abscence of said scheme and the non repayment of loans got from a now failed bank...a Jcan living in the Virgin Islands who had bought a house, blew the whistle wen he was threatened wid legal action wen he refused to pay any more money, having gone to Ja to chek up , ongle to find dat not even road had been cut much less brick set up....YET he was being pushed to continue to pay for phases not even started

so, did the housing scheme ever get built? was the loan paid bak to FINSAC etc... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

[RichD]

Re: ..a dark day fi corrupt politicians,a BRIGHT day fi Jamaica.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Even the present minister of finance stole government lands and sold it to Cool,, Oasis and still havent payd for it yet. </div></div> why is the opposition so silent on this trangession?...or dem frain to call him out in case....

[Yuriatin]

Re: ..a dark day fi corrupt politicians,a BRIGHT day fi Jama

<span style='font-size: 17pt'><span style="color: #FF0000"><u>Scores come out</u></span> in support of Kern Spencer
</span>
Thursday, 28 February 2008

Unaware of the disappointment that awaited them, supporters gathered in front of the Half Way Tree Police Station from early Thursday morning to see Kern Spencer released.

Mr. Spencer, Member of Parliament of North East St. Elizabeth, was arrested on Tuesday in connection with the Cuban Light Bulb scandal.

He has been charged with a total of nine counts of fraud, money laundering and corruption.
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The intermittent showers throughout the day did not prevent some, including supporters from camping out at the station.

From as early as 8 am</span>, persons started gathering at the entrance to the station.

The wait was, as even after 2pm, the paper work was still being processed.

The rain did not deter persons wanting to get a glimpse of the man at the centre of the controversy.

Some even donned PNP colours and wore buttons with pictures of Mr. Spencer and PNP leader Portia Simpson Miller.

At points the crowd marched onto the grounds of the police station, where at times the officers had to work hard to keep them at bay.

Most of the persons who spoke with the team from the RJR News Centre started to try the case themselves.

Naturally in their court of public opinion, Mr. Spencer was found NOT guilty:

"We are supporting Kern Spencer, <span style="color: #FF0000">give him a chance. (He's) a very young man, why (them come down) so hard (on him)?" asked one supporter.</span>

"The only time Kern guilty is when the Court finds him guilty and (that has not occurred yet) so him innocent," said another supporter.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/5954/26/

[X]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "We are supporting Kern Spencer, give him a chance. (He's) a very young man, why (them come down) so hard (on him)?" asked one supporter.</div></div>
[img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]
classic ediots.

[Yuriatin]

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Tell me something - what on EARTH does him having to be so young have to do with it?! [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70400-talktohand.gif[/img]

Yuh right - peer eeediat.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xKs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "We are supporting Kern Spencer, give him a chance. (He's) a very young man, why (them come down) so hard (on him)?" asked one supporter.</div></div>
[img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]
classic ediots.
</div></div>

[Q3210]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It seem like it happens so many times before and nothing seem to change aboput it. Even the present minister of finance stole government lands and sold it to Cool,, Oasis and still havent payd for it yet. It is just like the Crips and the Bloods gangs. they keep fighting over the crombs, while the country goes to waste. </div></div>

Why then hasn`t he been arrested and charged? Why? Dont bother come with the genetically linked excuse.

[Q3210]

Re: ..a dark day fi corrupt politicians,a BRIGHT day fi Jama

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xKs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The prince of corruption, Philip Paulwell set him up and is willin to meck Kern teck di fall. </div></div>
The said thing I was thinking. Kern was a junior minister, so what was the "senior" minister doing while all this was going on? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>

He was twidling his thumbs.

[Q3210]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YuriYuri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tell me something - what on EARTH does him having to be so young have to do with it?! [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70400-talktohand.gif[/img]

Yuh right - peer eeediat.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xKs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "We are supporting Kern Spencer, give him a chance. (He's) a very young man, why (them come down) so hard (on him)?" asked one supporter.</div></div>
[img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]
classic ediots.
</div></div> </div></div>

Youthful X-uberance, de same disease Paulwell escape wid everytime.

[Q3210]

Re: ..a dark day fi corrupt politicians,a BRIGHT day fi Jamaica.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ep.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">X mi jus c dis pan di gleaner website....traffic ova deh mussi well busy cawse site was running extremly slow....look like di press is having a field day with this one.....both parties have a history of corruption as far as I am concerned. </div></div>

The PNP`s 18.5 years in power has revealed corruption as a way of life. The PNP has become a privateering private club.

JUTC, National solid Waste, Finsac, Shell waiver-I shall Return, Traffigura, one after the other they fall like nine-ty pins.
Our grandchildren will read about the most corrupt era in Jamaican history where Jamaicans were robbed by Jamaicans unlike colonists who robbed from us to benefit themselves.

The head of the nightmare dragon has turned on it`s tail and that`s where baby Kern is at this moment, the tail.
Much more is left to be revealed.
Kern can play martyr and absorb all the allegations or he can bust, but if he does bust, his life will be in more jeopardy.
So far the Nine -life puss of politics, Paulwell still roams free, as for that matter the PNP leadership who cannot say they do not know the logistics of a CUBAN gift.

[X]

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mi wanda how Paulwell sleep at nights?
if him have an ounce a decency him would step in an take his share a di responsibility.
.. and to think dat a dem decrepid people deh wi have been calling "Leaders" fi di pass 18 plus years.

The authorities need to be carefull that this thing dont become like pure witchhunt and backfire wid public sympathy (not that public opinion ever carried weight in Jamaica anyhow) as Kern starts to look like a sacraficial lamb.

[X]

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[Hush Darlin]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xKs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>
dis is so wrong
atta him noh Jesus
but den im a tek de fall fe de ress a bigger teefs dem

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SweetSsop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> dis is so wrong
<span style="color: #FF0000">atta him noh Jesus</span>
but den im a tek de fall fe de ress a bigger teefs dem </div></div>
True, but don't forget that Rome did crucify common criminals too.

[djrosen1]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But, there is no question that J.A.G Smith was out of the House when he was charged and convicted for conspiracy to defraud the Farm Work Programme.

Smith, a minister of labour in the JLP administration of the 1980s and his permanent secretary, Probyn Aitkin, were charged after investigations into several improprieties and irregularities involving thousands of dollars from the U.S and Canadian Farm Work Programmes.

Aitken pleaded guilty on May 8, 1990, and became the main witness in the case against Smith.

Atkin was sentenced to nine months' imprisonment.

Smith, a chartered accountant, was convicted and sentenced to a three-year prison term. He appealed to the UK Privy Council, but lost his appeal.</div></div>

Can anyone point to a source where I can see more information regarding this particular affair? Thanks.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: ..a dark day fi corrupt politicians,a BRIGHT day fi Jamaica.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Q3210</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It seem like it happens so many times before and nothing seem to change aboput it. Even the present minister of finance stole government lands and sold it to Cool,, Oasis and still havent payd for it yet. It is just like the Crips and the Bloods gangs. they keep fighting over the crombs, while the country goes to waste. </div></div>

Why then hasn`t he been arrested and charged? Why? Dont bother come with the genetically linked excuse. </div></div>Shaw states land deal background
published: Sunday | March 16, 2008

THE EDITOR, Sir:

I write once again to set the record straight in respect of Government land that was accessed by me in order to develop a property in Christiana, Manchester.

I enclose correspondence between myself, the Ministry of Transport and Works, the Commissioner of Lands, and the National Works Agency, which demonstrates my efforts to have this matter regularized. You will observe that in my letter of January 26, 2001, I was seeking the intervention of the National Works Agency, who has responsibility for the abandoned road, to regularize my outstanding application.

The correspondence also shows an acknowledgement from the then Minister of State, Dean Peart, who suggested that I should deal directly with the Commissioner of Lands. The documents also show the correspondence with the Commissioner of Lands, and expenses incurred by me to survey the land.

By the time the Commissioner of Lands set the price of J$1.2 million, a change of ownership was imminent and therefore the sale was effected with Cool Oasis Ltd.

The details that I have set out show plainly that the claim of Mr. Peart that I had "captured" Government land and did not expect to pay for it was a blatant piece of dishonesty inspired by his hapless propensity for political tribalism.

I trust that you will correct the gross and malicious inaccuracies that were contained in your front page newspaper story on February 14, which was based on the erroneous information provided by Mr. Peart to your reporter.

I am, etc.,

AUDLEY SHAW, MP

Minister of Finance and the Public Service

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