Butsiyah

[Bizzy]

so last month mi return from ja an in customs de office wayna question mi bout why mi bring mi laptop wid mi an wat mi need it for an ray ray. mi get bex an decide say mi gwaan write an complain, so de man gimi one lilli paper wid de address mi fi contact.

still nuh get no reply from dem but mi a do one final project pon cyberlaw and mi buck up pon a article weh say dem pass law say de frigga dem can search yuh laptop as dem si fit...sayka some eediat nassy man weh go asia go look likkle pikney an save de photos to him pc

soon yuh naw go able fi have no likkle privacy at all

pon top a dat dem a xray ppl parts fi pass security *kissteet*

[Nylah]

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why him feel the need to question you so?

young black woman with a laptop is such an anomoly?

[Bizzy]

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Mi tell him say mi do school online..den him ask mi if mi go school how comes mi can afford fi go jamaica so often

anyways, mi a read some more an si dat de search can include any electronics blackberry, cell phone, ipod/mp3 player, digicam, camcorder. Dis is ridiculous

[Bizzy]

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oh, and smaddy can transfer to technology i guess would be the appropriate forum

[Nylah]

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I only knew that they could make you turn on your eletronics but search the contents? that doesnt make sense especially for business travellers that have confidental company info on their devices.

that is what peeves with them that they make assumptions about your financial status

It isnt airport security but straight up profiling.

young, black, female = drug mule

Nuff times I get quizzed about what I have in the bank and then when I say what I do for a living, I get a double take

I went thru pure hell one time when leaving JA a few years back. The narco cop put me thru the ringer cause from his perspective I didnt look Jamaican and I didnt look like a black American, therefore I must be a British girl carrying drugs. Didnt believe I did what I did for a living, etc.

Pure misery and strife I had to deal with including them threatening to send me to jail. Then I missed my flight out and had to make it back to Ochi after midnight when everything shut down.

After realizing that I hadnt any drugs on me etc. the cop apologizes and then ask if I want to go out on a date. ~kissteet~ took everything inside me to keep my mouth shut

[Nylah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bizi_Build_Back</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mi tell him say mi do school online..den him ask mi if mi go school how comes mi can afford fi go jamaica so often

anyways, mi a read some more an si dat de search can include any electronics blackberry, cell phone, ipod/mp3 player, digicam, camcorder. Dis is ridiculous

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but what do the list as potential security breaches that could be found on your computer - other than child porn?

I just cant see businesses giving up confidentialilty for airport security.

[Bizzy]

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They didn't list the anything esle other than child pornography, but maybe sumthing like political agendas, terrorist plots, other criminal plans an ting.. i guess ppl save all dem ting deh to dem harddrive thinking it's personal and nuhbaddi naw go look in deh wid out reason..


mi soon fine back de article an poas it

[Bizzy]

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Border Agents Can Search Laptops Without Cause, Appeals Court Rules
By Ryan Singel April 22, 2008 | 6:21:20 PMCategories: Privacy, The Courts

Federal agents at the border do not need any reason to search through travelers' laptops, cell phones or digital cameras for evidence of crimes, a federal appeals court ruled Monday, extending the government's power to look through belongings like suitcases at the border to electronics.

The unanimous three-judge decision reverses a lower court finding that digital devices were &quot;an extension of our own memory&quot; and thus too personal to allow the government to search them without cause. Instead, the earlier ruling said, Customs agents would need some reasonable and articulable suspicion a crime had occurred in order to search a traveler's laptop.

On appeal, the government argued that was too high a standard, infringing upon its right to keep the country safe and enforce laws. Civil rights groups, joined by business traveler groups, weighed in, defending the lower court ruling.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the government, finding that the so-called border exception to the Fourth Amendment's prohibition on unreasonable searches applied not just to suitcases and papers, but also to electronics.

The ruling (.pdf) came in a case where customs agents searched the laptop of Michael Arnold who was returning from the Philippines. They found images they believed to be child pornography, seized the laptop and later arrested him. While the lower court ruling excluded from trial the pictures of young boys the government says it found on the hard drive, they now can be used again.

The panel chose to follow the reasoning of a similar case from the 4th Circuit, known as Ickes (.pdf), which held that the government did not need any reason to search a vehicle crossing the border.

The 9th's ruling did not, however, clarify whether a traveler has to help the government search his computer, by providing the login information, or what would happen when the government decided to search a laptop with encrypted data on the drive. The defendant in the case can appeal the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court, but the Court is unlikely to take up an issue that two separate appeals courts have agreed upon.

In the meantime, travelers should be aware that anything on their mobile devices can be searched by government agents, who may also seize the devices and keep them for weeks or months. When in doubt, think about whether online storage or encryption might be tools you should use to prevent the feds from rummaging through your journal, your company's confidential business plans or naked pictures of you and your-of-age partner in adult fun.



source

[Nylah]

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<span style="font-weight: bold">The 9th's ruling did not, however, clarify whether a traveler has to help the government search his computer, by providing the login information, or what would happen when the government decided to search a laptop with encrypted data on the drive. The defendant in the case can appeal the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court, but the Court is unlikely to take up an issue that two separate appeals courts have agreed upon.

In the meantime, travelers should be aware that anything on their mobile devices can be searched by government agents, who may also seize the devices and keep them for weeks or months. When in doubt, think about whether online storage or encryption might be tools you should use to prevent the feds from rummaging through your journal, your company's confidential business plans or naked pictures of you and your-of-age partner in adult fun.</span>

[Bizzy]

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BOADWL&gt;

but dem right dowe...caw all dem ppl weh u a hear bout weh a film dem sexcapades on dem phone an ting. imagine if a badmine or immature officer go site dat an forward it to fi him phone or one a him bredren fone?? yuh blue movi career woodan gone clear

dem can do jsut about anyting dem want *kissteet* aye sah

[Bizzy]

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somewhere mi did read dat dem recommend any sensitive/confidential work related information should be sent via email before u return from overseas or removed from ur pc to a jump drive or sumting before u travel.

i wonder if dem fine de jump drive if dem woodan insist on seein that too

[Nylah]

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i would think a jump drive would still be fair game.

but what good is emailing if they can go into your sent items and still see said confidential correspondence

they are taking this crap too far and nobody is alarmed enough to do a thing about it.

[dahjah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bizi_Build_Back</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so last month mi return from ja an in customs de office wayna question mi bout why mi bring mi laptop wid mi an wat mi need it for an ray ray. mi get bex an decide say mi gwaan write an complain, so de man gimi one lilli paper wid de address mi fi contact.

still nuh get no reply from dem but mi a do one final project pon cyberlaw and mi buck up pon a article weh say dem pass law say de frigga dem can search yuh laptop as dem si fit...sayka some eediat nassy man weh go asia go look likkle pikney an save de photos to him pc

soon yuh naw go able fi have no likkle privacy at all

pon top a dat dem a xray ppl parts fi pass security *kissteet* </div></div>

dem pass dat law in amerikkka lass year.
Heard it pan de cbc how dis lawyer had files for a client pan de laptop an customs search an find dem an harrass dem etc. Now that lawyer company takes an empty laptop to the states and they keep the files pan a server when dem can link to when de reach ova dehsuh.

This all started by the RIAA cah dem wanted to find ppl who a download music and movies.

[Bizzy]

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RIAA lucky

[Gen]

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most a our work tings deh pan server and we can vpn login remote. dem always tell we nuh keep work tings pan we hard drive.

suh if the friggah dem waan confiscate it mek dem galang


speaking of which be careful when unna put unnu laptop inna the bin dem fi guh choo the xray machine. mi deh a airport last week and dem mek the bin dem pile up and boof is all yuh hear when the bin and smaddy lap top drap a grung. \0/

mi juss gie the agent one dutty look. the smaddy fi the laptop cuss out dem warra warra