Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

[j-kid]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

MG, you missed the first part of what I said uppa top. They built the large vehicles at a time when there was a demand for it. If there was not a demand then, the sales would not have gone through the roof back then.

However, you can't turn around tooling, and design on a dime. You have to have development time. Also, it is not like they were not building small cars. Just not enough of a variety for the consumer, and to make a profit on the then low volume of small cars that were available, to offset the loss of sales on the large vehicles.

Also, the American manufacturer are dealing with the perception that the foreign car quality is better.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GM has made the best electric car, number one cars according to motor trend, to jd power, even consumer reports and no matter what them do public perception is that japanese make better products. So when you have a public who believes in a ting, how you can blame the manufacturer (at this point) when it is doing nuff tings right?

</div></div> This is because GM needed to do like Hyundai did whenthey had th esame quality probliem thatthey couldnt beat. The Hyundai organiozation gave a 100,000 miles warranty. They did not wait until after they couldnt get extension of the tax rebate on their huzzlers. What GM did was to expect too mich fromtheir lobbyists. They did a half arse job.
because they thinj that the Repubs wull save them. Well the lobbyists failed and he gambled too hevily ion them and lost.

[Emperah]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GM has made <span style="font-weight: bold">the best electric car</span>, number one cars according to motor trend, to jd power, even consumer reports and no matter what them do public perception is that japanese make better products. So when you have a public who believes in a ting, how you can blame the manufacturer (at this point) when it is doing nuff tings right?

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but no GM same one <span style="font-style: italic">recall</span> the electric car, chase dung every gadblessed lass one of them and <span style="font-style: italic">destroyed</span> them, even though consumers were interested in that? whofa fault that? sittn like that will negatively influence consumer perception, u'd think GM woulda know that. </div></div>

I know bout the evoc, a de volt mi a talk bout, de ting not even release to the public yet and has gotten more rave reviews than any other.

GM didn't sell enough of those cars to create any public perception over that issue, very few ppl still all now know bout dat incident.

What happened was they had the market all tuh demself and were arrogant cause toyota and datsun now nissan were sending nuttin but crap over here.

[Emperah]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GM has made the best electric car, number one cars according to motor trend, to jd power, even consumer reports and no matter what them do public perception is that japanese make better products. So when you have a public who believes in a ting, how you can blame the manufacturer (at this point) when it is doing nuff tings right?

</div></div> This is because GM needed to do like Hyundai did whenthey had th esame quality probliem thatthey couldnt beat. The Hyundai organiozation gave a 100,000 miles warranty. They did not wait until after they couldnt get extension of the tax rebate on their huzzlers. What GM did was to expect too mich fromtheir lobbyists. They did a half arse job.
because they thinj that the Repubs wull save them. Well the lobbyists failed and he gambled too hevily ion them and lost. </div></div>

So lass week it come out dat buick and jaguar come out numbah one of all vehicles, dem beat lexus and toyota, how come not one a unno mention ar si dat?

But if it was bad news to any a de big 3 unno wouldan eenya a pinte pinte unno 10 fingah aftah dem.

Unno fall into de perception game an nuh even seet.

[j-kid]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> We are all here to serve th ewhims of pur cistomers, we can't call them names,simply because we awere not able to manage the business to satisfy their demand. At th esame time losing th eleadership to a company thatdid exacrly that. </div></div>

Dr. D, in case yuh noh notice customers naa buy Japanese cyars either. Dem ah hurt tuh.

What, people fail tuh realise is the spending power of the Autoworkers in this coutry. I clearly remember, Dahjah and i warning people about the ripple effect years back. Memba if yuh noh hav jab yuh cant pay mortgage (low or high monthly payments). Lot ah these people that had these creative mortages were Auto workers. Also, retirees. Not to mention the secondaty, suppliers, and related industgries that are connected and affected.
Yuh cant buy, gas, groceries, pay utilities, pay yuh doctor bills, etc. Now yuh also affecting dem other industries. Should i go on?

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GM has made the best electric car, number one cars according to motor trend, to jd power, even consumer reports and no matter what them do public perception is that japanese make better products. So when you have a public who believes in a ting, how you can blame the manufacturer (at this point) when it is doing nuff tings right?

</div></div> This is because GM needed to do like Hyundai did whenthey had th esame quality probliem thatthey couldnt beat. The Hyundai organiozation gave a 100,000 miles warranty. They did not wait until after they couldnt get extension of the tax rebate on their huzzlers. What GM did was to expect too mich fromtheir lobbyists. They did a half arse job.
because they thinj that the Repubs wull save them. Well the lobbyists failed and he gambled too hevily ion them and lost. </div></div>

So lass week it come out dat buick and jaguar come out numbah one of all vehicles, dem beat lexus and toyota, how come not one a unno mention ar si dat?

But if it was bad news to any a de big 3 unno wouldan eenya a pinte pinte unno 10 fingah aftah dem.

Unno fall into de perception game an nuh even seet. </div></div> Ine week iof quality doin't count. When people have been burnt fir so long,it takes soem convincing ti change them. GM should hav eknown that.

[Xavier]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

I think bank CEO firings would have a great ripple effect that the auto CEO's. The bottom line is that they do not have MAJOR effect on the stock markets across the world as the banking system.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xavier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think bank CEO firings would have a great ripple effect that the auto CEO's. The bottom line is that they do not have MAJOR effect on the stock markets across the world as the banking system. </div></div>
<span style="font-size: 11pt"> Ford an GM has gotten the message now that their backs are against the wall.
They have decided to take posession of vehicles bought if the purchaser loses their jobs. They are following the leader Hyundai.
Hyundai has been wher all hare now. They copuldnt sell any cars after their miserable quality record of thepasty.
What did they do aboyt that? They institute a policy that remives the risk to the buyer,by fiving 100,000 miles gurantee.
That shot them to the position where they are still experiencing growth in this market. Then they realuze that the market us weakenning.
What have they done about it. As they aklways do, they identify the strategy to nutralize the risk.
They gurantee the purchase and return if th ebuyer loses their job.
Now at last the American auto execs get it. they have decided to do the same. hear, hear...
Why did it take them so long to recognize that their responsibillity is to devise strategues to keep their companies profitable?? </span>

[Emperah]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

wah dat haffee duh wid de bank ppl dem gettin bly aftah bly.

yuh a talk like seh GM and Ford cause de crisis

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Rick Wagoner was fired, from Auto giant GM, as chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wah dat haffee duh wid de bank ppl dem gettin bly aftah bly.

yuh a talk like seh GM and Ford cause de crisis </div></div> The question I am still asking you is this, which of current bank execs, was there during the period when the transactions were being done that cause the melt down?? How many that are there now, was there when the mess was happenning?/