IMMORTALITY...are we our genes?

[franksterr]

Re: IMMORTALITY...are we our genes?

johnnycakes


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We all die because (science has discovered) the body has a built in limitation on the number of times particular body cells will reproduce to replace ones that die off through time. </div></div>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOIO7gst9E

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they could get that limitation eliminated and the ability unlocked in the gene that allows regeneration of limbs and other body parts we'd probably live a lot longer than we now do as a race. </div></div>
Whenever the limits been eliminated, so far the results been cancer.
Now science is looking to Stem Cells.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL72Dn3rJ_E&amp;feature=channel

[franksterr]

Re: IMMORTALITY...are we our genes?

jah_yout

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
that's hard to say; technically at the time of conception- when sperm meets egg- the fruition; but obviously parts of you are merely handed down- generation after generation---so at least a part of you lived before..</div></div>

And it tends to be the part of you that directs all development and stores all memories.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">Do we life for ever as spirits? or do we evolve to something else</span>.


[quote]What is spirit..

hard to define...essence...intangible animator</div></div>

It is the breathe all living things share, even the fishes.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is mind..

The union of spirit and body is called soul

or is the soul independent of the body </div></div>

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">death is the disintegration of this union.
The body was animated by the spirit but was it really ever alive?

if you mean the 'body'- the structure- yes it was alive</div></div>

Alive yes, but not as a single being or entity

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If Re-incarnation is true then the secret of Immortality is Memory.

this is certainly something unknown or untapped</div></div>
Dejavu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H4-PKAxa-U

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">Is the fact that our genes are passed on, does that mean we are immortal?</span>

--our genes could concievably be passed on forever &amp; so that is at least some part of us...but not really <span style="font-weight: bold">us </span>in<span style="color: #FF0000"> this particular form</span>...

What really is &quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">us</span>&quot;?
How important is the<span style="color: #FF0000"> form</span>?


this structure united with this spirit-soul is us...form is everything; a human can do what a human can do...</div></div>

Why is it not really us?
Is any of the billions of cells that make up your present body not you?
If one is capable of replicating itself, how is it not still you?
The structure or form is pure memory - cellular

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVVk3zAz8Qo&amp;feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49dH7bho4PY&amp;p=BBAD9DD740974B7C&amp;playnext=1&amp;index=9

If you change cars or clothing, who you are remains unchanged.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">What is the relation between genes and spirit?</span>

---damned if i know; perhaps the genes themselves possess something of a spirit; which is why we sometimes inhereit 'ways' of our parents/ancestors even though this is an intangible thing

[quote]We know the genes store information(memories), can the spirit and or mind accesses these?

unknown &amp;/or untapped knowledge</div></div>

Lost Knowledge

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a theory - the spirit is the operator, the mind is the operating system and the gene is the memory. If this be the case then you can relive the life of all of your ancestors, experiencing every minute detail of their life as them.

interesting thought </div></div>

[johnnycakes]

Re: IMMORTALITY...are we our genes?

Isn't science wonderful.
AND.... consider that we as a race are just getting into science.
What is to come and to come fast and furious will beyond our imaginations as knowledge builds upon the once limited knowledge which took thousands of years to painfully and slowly develop prior to the 21st century.
We crawled and limped and walked to this point.

Now we get to really stretch our intellectual and scientific legs.

I wish I could be here for the next hundred years.

[franksterr]

Re: IMMORTALITY...are we our genes?

johnnycakes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't science wonderful. </div></div>
true
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AND.... consider that we as a race are just getting into science.</div></div>
explain what you mean?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is to come and to come fast and furious will beyond our imaginations as knowledge builds upon the once limited knowledge which took thousands of years to painfully and slowly develop prior to the 21st century.</div></div>

Maybe it is we in the 21 century who are backward when compared to those of ancient times


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We crawled and limped and walked to this point.
Now we get to really stretch our intellectual and scientific legs.</div></div>
we have been dumbdown by barbarization called civilization

I wish I could be here for the next hundred years.
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You will be or better you are