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Re: Mary Magdalene: whore or Disciple?
I have a little time today, so... let the games begin!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yes she was what is called a kedeshah or temple prostitute which according to my understanding is a courtesan who studied psychology and physical therapy and the use of roots and herbs....hence the reason she was the first to see the risen christ and the last by his side and possibly the one who order myrrh and aloes for the cleaning of his body -{ I know the bible said it was order by Joseph of Arimathea} which runs contrary to my understanding of Jewish customs wherein it is women who prepare dead bodies for burial.......unless of course he was being revived.
You know thats a good question - what were the herbs and spices customarily used by Jewish women (in the time of Jesus) when preparing a body for burial? </div></div>
First of all, you, franksterr, are mixing up two distinct and different word meanings that are unrelated: "kadisha" alone and kadisha in "chevra kadisha"; "kadisha" is used to designate a non-Jewish temple prostitute (as opposed to "zona", which is harlot in general), and "chevra kadisha" means holy fellowship and is the group of people - not necessarily females - who are charged with preparing the dead for burial. To say that the word "kadisha" means temple prostitute, as you, franksterr, say, is akin to saying that is meaning of "boy cow" is the same as that of "cowboy". (Obviously they do not mean the same thing.)
To say that Mary Magdalene was "kadisha" (since she was Jewish, ergo she could not have been a non-Jewish prostitute... or a non-Jewish anything) automatically means that she was a member of "chevra kadisha" and knew how to prepare the dead for burial.
Franksterr, your understanding of Jewish customs - both then and now - is just plain wrong/lacking. Back in Jesus' time, as now, it is not only just women who are chevra kadisha - men are also. It is a <span style="font-weight: bold">fellowship</span>.
Furthermore, you do not have any credible scholarship that shows that Judaism ever had or used or condoned [the use of] temple prostitutes, because Judaism never had or used or condoned [the use of] temple prostitutes. I challenge you to provide <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">credible</span></span> scholarship that states otherwise. This is not to say that certain individuals did not do things against the precepts of their religion; that sort of thing happens all the time. I am talking about Judaism as a religion, and the Temple as the institution. Yes, they had a word for temple prostitute, since religions all around them had temples with prostitutes... just as you use the word "Christ" although you don't believe in the Messiah.
I have a little time today, so... let the games begin!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yes she was what is called a kedeshah or temple prostitute which according to my understanding is a courtesan who studied psychology and physical therapy and the use of roots and herbs....hence the reason she was the first to see the risen christ and the last by his side and possibly the one who order myrrh and aloes for the cleaning of his body -{ I know the bible said it was order by Joseph of Arimathea} which runs contrary to my understanding of Jewish customs wherein it is women who prepare dead bodies for burial.......unless of course he was being revived.
You know thats a good question - what were the herbs and spices customarily used by Jewish women (in the time of Jesus) when preparing a body for burial? </div></div>
First of all, you, franksterr, are mixing up two distinct and different word meanings that are unrelated: "kadisha" alone and kadisha in "chevra kadisha"; "kadisha" is used to designate a non-Jewish temple prostitute (as opposed to "zona", which is harlot in general), and "chevra kadisha" means holy fellowship and is the group of people - not necessarily females - who are charged with preparing the dead for burial. To say that the word "kadisha" means temple prostitute, as you, franksterr, say, is akin to saying that is meaning of "boy cow" is the same as that of "cowboy". (Obviously they do not mean the same thing.)
To say that Mary Magdalene was "kadisha" (since she was Jewish, ergo she could not have been a non-Jewish prostitute... or a non-Jewish anything) automatically means that she was a member of "chevra kadisha" and knew how to prepare the dead for burial.
Franksterr, your understanding of Jewish customs - both then and now - is just plain wrong/lacking. Back in Jesus' time, as now, it is not only just women who are chevra kadisha - men are also. It is a <span style="font-weight: bold">fellowship</span>.
Furthermore, you do not have any credible scholarship that shows that Judaism ever had or used or condoned [the use of] temple prostitutes, because Judaism never had or used or condoned [the use of] temple prostitutes. I challenge you to provide <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">credible</span></span> scholarship that states otherwise. This is not to say that certain individuals did not do things against the precepts of their religion; that sort of thing happens all the time. I am talking about Judaism as a religion, and the Temple as the institution. Yes, they had a word for temple prostitute, since religions all around them had temples with prostitutes... just as you use the word "Christ" although you don't believe in the Messiah.
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