Ceiling Fan Hell Search

[Yuriatin]

Anyone have experience / guidance with ceiling fans?

I only have Yugo money but I want the Mercedes of ceiling fans ...

I need one with a light, not just the fan.

Seriously, I’ll pony up the money that’s needed – only want to do this one time – I don’t want something that’s going to go bust in a year.

Any thoughts? Any more reliable than others?

[kia027]

Re: Ceiling Fan Hell Search

Don't know about reliability more than others. Go to a lighting store (not Home Depot or Lowes) and talk to someone there as they can guide you as to what will work best for your space. Remember it may cost a few hundred dollars but it won't be something you change every few years.

I am looking for one too as the one that came with the house has a short in it. Right now I need style and functionality and time to install it

[Yuriatin]

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Kia - I've done all that luv. Believe me.

They're clueless.

These guys couldn't BUY a clue if they had a million dollars.

I've been to two different Lowes and one Home Depot and at each, the sales clerk said - <span style="font-style: italic">&quot;... ahhh , well, they're all pretty much the same ... they're all six and one half dozen ...&quot;</span>

I just can't believe this true.

What's more, they're high up in the ceiling on display so one can't even touch them to gauge the feel, strength of the blades, etc.

I'm going to go check out Consumer Reports this weekend at the library.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't know about reliability more than others. Go to a lighting store (not Home Depot or Lowes) and talk to someone there as they can guide you as to what will work best for your space. Remember it may cost a few hundred dollars but it won't be something you change every few years.

I am looking for one too as the one that came with the house has a short in it. Right now I need style and functionality and time to install it </div></div>

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kia - I've done all that luv. Believe me.

They're clueless.

These guys couldn't BUY a clue if they had a million dollars.

I've been to two different Lowes and one Home Depot and at each, the sales clerk said - <span style="font-style: italic">&quot;... ahhh , well, they're all pretty much the same ... they're all six and one half dozen ...&quot;</span>

I just can't believe this true.

What's more, they're high up in the ceiling on display so one can't even touch them to gauge the feel, strength of the blades, etc.

I'm going to go check out Consumer Reports this weekend at the library.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't know about reliability more than others. Go to a lighting store (not Home Depot or Lowes) and talk to someone there as they can guide you as to what will work best for your space. Remember it may cost a few hundred dollars but it won't be something you change every few years.

I am looking for one too as the one that came with the house has a short in it. Right now I need style and functionality and time to install it </div></div> </div></div>

You miss dis pawt <span style="font-weight: bold">Go to a lighting store (not Home Depot or Lowes)</span>

I went to a lighting store and they were very knowledgeable about lighting and ceiling fans.. They even sent me home with a few books Minka Avery and a few other brands..

[Gen]

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have yet to see one that I like eedah dem too modern(read industrial) or too country-ish, and if mi see one dat can pass the light sitten nuh look ready

yuh think a now mi a look


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have experience / guidance with ceiling fans?

I only have Yugo money but I want the Mercedes of ceiling fans ...

I need one with a light, not just the fan.

Seriously, I’ll pony up the money that’s needed – only want to do this one time – I don’t want something that’s going to go bust in a year.

Any thoughts? Any more reliable than others?

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[Yuriatin]

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Sorry Kia - yes, I did miss that.

I've gone to 2 lighting stores.

They were just &quot;ok&quot;.

I've found 2 things online that are helpful. One is GREAT!

One is good.

Here's the link for the good one.

http://www.ceiling-fans-ceiling-fans.com/resources/Guides_Buying-Fans1.htm

Let me go look for the great link ...

[Yuriatin]

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Yes Gen - <span style="font-style: italic">what is up with these ceiling fans???</span>

If they don't look like they belong on the set of the Golden Girls, then they look like they came from the year 2108!

FUGGLY!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">have yet to see one that I like eedah dem too modern(read industrial) or too country-ish, and if mi see one dat can pass the light sitten nuh look ready

yuh think a now mi a look


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have experience / guidance with ceiling fans?

I only have Yugo money but I want the Mercedes of ceiling fans ...

I need one with a light, not just the fan.

Seriously, I’ll pony up the money that’s needed – only want to do this one time – I don’t want something that’s going to go bust in a year.

Any thoughts? Any more reliable than others?

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[kia027]

Re: Ceiling Fan Hell Search

This comes in brushed steel $269




The brushed steel view.


44 inch span good for a small room

[kia027]

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a white ceiling fan that goes with white ceilings. This has a halogen bulb (100Watts)

47&quot; span more expensive @ $414

[Yuriatin]

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... and here's the other site I found - really good material. I haven't found <span style="font-weight: bold">any</span> store or employee able to give the low down on ceiling fans as well as this site does.

http://www.hansenwholesale.com/ceilingfans/bestfans.asp

[Yuriatin]

Re: Ceiling Fan Hell Search

<span style="font-style: italic">&quot;DETAILS: What makes some fans better than others?

The motor inside your fan is the most important component!

The most important consideration when purchasing a fan (aside from the way it looks) is the size, power, and durability of the motor. Larger more powerful motors are more expensive than smaller more generic mass produced motors...but they will move substantially more air without wobbling or making noise and can be left running for days, weeks, even years on end without burning out.

There are 5 major factors that work together to determine how much air a fan will move as well as it's overall performance and durability. The most important factor is the motor. A strong precision made motor will move the most air without noise or wobble if the other 4 factors are present.

The 5 basic factors are:

*Blade Pitch
*Blade Shape and Size
*RPM
*Height from Ceiling
*Motor

Looking more closely at each of these factors will show how they affect each other and why a fan with the most powerful motor can produce the most air movement.

1.

Blade Pitch:
The angle at which the blade sweeps through the air is called the &quot;Pitch&quot; of the blade. The easiest way to understand how blade pitch effects air movement is to equate the blades of a fan to the oars of a rowboat. If you have ever tried to row a boat, you know that if you put the oars in the water virtually flat, it takes very little effort to row...but even if you row very fast, the boat moves very slow. If, on the other hand, you tilt the oars at a steep angle in the water, it becomes very difficult to row the boat...but each stroke makes substantial progress. You will need to be much stronger and in better shape to sustain a high rate of speed for any period of time in this case.

The same is true with ceiling fans. Believe it or not, a fan spinning at a high RPM encounters substantial wind resistance if the blades are set at a steeper pitch. A fan that has blades with a very flat pitch (between 10 and 12 degrees), does not require a very powerful motor to make the blades spin fast. However, even at full speed, the fan will move very little air and may have a tendency to wobble or make noise.

On the other hand, a good blade pitch (between 14 and 15 degrees) requires a well engineered finely tuned powerful motor to move the blades through the air at a high rate of speed for extended periods of time without overheating and burning out.

Just as well, a good blade pitch with an average or lower grade motor will not be able to reach as high an RPM and may in fact be overworked resulting in a fan that overheats and eventually burns out.

Therefore, the pitch of the blade and the power of the motor must be well engineered to work together to create air movement without going beyond the motors capability in order for a fan to operate efficiently and last a lifetime.

2.

Blade Shape and Size
Imagine rowing a boat with short narrow oars compared to wider longer oars. The wider and longer the oar is, the more effort it takes to pull it through the water. But once again, more effort means more progress. With ceiling fans, when you combine a wider longer blade with a steeper pitch, you get even more air movement...at least to a certain point.

There is a limit to the shape and size that the oars or fan blades can and should be. If the oars or blades are too wide or too long, you will not be able to move maneuver them them fast enough no matter how strong you are. As with ceiling fans, blades that are too wide or long cannot be moved fast enough to be effective with even the most powerful fan motor. So...larger does not always mean better...but too small or narrow is not good.
3.

RPM
RPM is simply how fast your fan blades spin at a given speed setting. Faster means more air...but only if the blades are pitched properly. Also, some fans have a lower RPM at low speed and a higher RPM at high speed, which means they give you more flexibility in the cooling effect required. The best fans will give you 6 speeds from very low to very high.

4.

Height from Ceiling
In order for a fan to operate efficiently, there needs to be about 10 to 12 inches between the blades and the ceiling so that the air can flow freely around the blades without bouncing up and down between the blades and the ceiling. For this reason, you will find that ceiling hugger fans (fans that mount flush to the ceiling) don't move very much air. This type of fan will always have a small motor with relatively flat blades so that it does not create enough turbulence to cause it to wobble or shudder. You just won't find a &quot;Hi-Performance&quot; hugger fan.

The blades on a typical hugger fan will be 7 or 8 inches from the ceiling as opposed to 10 to 12&quot; for a good quality performance fan. The additional 2 or 3 inches makes all the difference in the world...kind of like having a tire on a car that is just a little out of balance. It may only take a small .5oz weight to balance the tire, but without the weight, the tire will bounce up and down like crazy at certain speeds. You should only use hugger fans if your ceilings are lower than 8' high or there is some other restriction (such as a bunk bed) that prevents you from installing a Hi-Performance fan that drops down a few more inches.

For higher ceilings, a longer downrod is recommended in order to bring the fan blades to about 8 or 9 feet from the floor so that you will feel the air movement.

5.

Motor - Size, Power, and Quality
The motor is the most important component of a ceiling fan. The most powerful motors will move the most air, providing the above factors are present. High power fan motors are only available in the top of the line models from each of the major name brands. You will find these fans to be more expensive...but the difference in the amount of air you will feel is quite remarkable and the performance, durability, and efficiency is well worth the extra money.

Conclusion:
A well engineered ceiling fan takes all of the factors on this page into account, and with precision testing, a &quot;Sweet Spot&quot; is determined with the most efficient combination of blade pitch, shape and size of the blades, RPM, height from the ceiling, and most importantly, the capacity or capability of the motor.

The fans on our site that are rated 4 or 5, or are referred to as &quot;Hi-Performance&quot; are fans that are well engineered to the &quot;Sweet Spot&quot; and will give you the best performance for many years. We are sure you will be satisfied if you purchase one of these fans. We believe any other rating to be a compromise that manufacturers make in order to design fans to meet lower price points.&quot;
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[kia027]

Re: Ceiling Fan Hell Search

do you have central air as well?

[Yuriatin]

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Marnin Kia.

When we moved in there was a ceiling fan in the room - it's still there - huge an ugly as ever - clunky as all hell.
It's probably older than me. Looking to replace it.

Yes, we have central air.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you have central air as well? </div></div>

[kia027]

Re: Ceiling Fan Hell Search

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marnin Kia.

When we moved in there was a ceiling fan in the room - it's still there - huge an ugly as ever - clunky as all hell.
It's probably older than me. Looking to replace it.

Yes, we have central air.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you have central air as well? </div></div> </div></div>

if it olda dan u , den yes you have to replace it just to take advantage of the energy savings !

I am looking for one too and but I need one with good lighting. I hate the way the CFL lights work so am leaning toward halogen based ..

[Emperah]

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Yuri mi did buy disya one lass year. Mi did a watch it an watch it fi si if de price a guh home down fi bout 3 ar 4 months an mi si seh it naah move suh guh feet. Mi get nuff compliments pan it, it solid tuh.