Jamaican men

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R00TS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SO WHO ELSE A COME,...UNNU COME NO !,..WHO ELSE WANT A PIECE OF ME !!! </div></div>
I'm full, Thanks </div></div>

*yawn*

[R00TS]

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your a riot

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R00TS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> your a riot </div></div>

*yawn*

[julie*mango]

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what time is it by you? gwaan a yu bed man an stop yawn down di place.

[SandiF]

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frack = frock = coat = dress

frack tail = frock tail = coat tail = coat with a tail


18th century british gent in his frock coat

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'I Man Born Ya' written in pre-1976 election optimism ... then Pluto Shervington migrates, but still a committed Jamaican
Published: Sunday | October 18, 2009


Mel Cooke, Gleaner Writer

&quot;But I man born ya

I am man on ya

I nah leave yah

Fe go America

No way sah

Pot a boil ya

Belly full ya

Sweet Jamaica&quot;

Chorus, 'I Man Born Ya'.


In 1975, things were humming along for Pluto Shervington as surely as a new turntable needle set solidly in a clean LP groove, with no dust mites or vibration determined to disturb the melodic flow of the audio.

&quot;Things were good here. Things were happening. Business was good. I was in the jingles business as well,&quot; Shervington told The Sunday Gleaner. &quot;I had my own studio. That year, 1975, I think I wrote 50 of the major jingles I heard on radio and produced them. I had a studio that was doing very well, records were doing well. I was touring all over the world; life was good.&quot;

In that period of optimism, three years after the election which had swept Michael Manley into power, Shervington wrote the nationalistic, celebratory I Man Born Ya in a series of jolly jams which rocked the nation. There was Ram Goat Liver about a running belly encounter with a 'lick dung' goat; Your Honour explored the predicament of a man caught nude in a woman's closet by an irate husband; and Dat Ting Dere rummaged through the parcel of a Rastafarian who had to resort to eating pork.

I Man Born Ya was actually written ahead of Dat Ting Dere, but was the last of the quality quartet released. Shervington tells The Sunday Gleaner when he wrote it, &quot;I truly didn't think I was leaving anywhere.

&quot;A lot can happen in that year and a half,&quot; he said.

That 'lot' was a violent 1976 general election, which Michael Manley-led People's National Party (PNP) also won, the period including a state of emergency.

&quot;It was a hell of a year. A lot hinged on who was going to win that election,&quot; Shervington told The Sunday Gleaner.

Although some persons had already started the exodus from Jamaica, mostly to the United States, Shervington said &quot;it was not until right ahead of the election at the end of 1976 that everyone started to get jumpy. The crime went sky high&quot;.

I Man Born Ya got caught up in the vortex of nationalism, as he says &quot;the PNP used that song as their theme song. Nobody asked me. I was not unhappy, but I would not have wanted that because it tended to align me to one side. I wanted to be neutral&quot;. Still, nobody branded Shervington a PNP supporter openly, this while his good friend Ernie Smith was getting flack for Power and the Glory, which bemoaned the fighting while the kingdom goes to waste.

I Man Born Ya was recorded at Federal Records (now Tuff Gong) with musicians Val Douglas (bass), Willie Lindo (guitar), Wya Lindo (organ), Robbie Lyn (piano) and Mikey Boo (drums). Shervington said while they were recording the song &quot;it had not hit us yet, the value of what it was going to be&quot;.

&quot;I don't think the impact of that song hit us until after I left the country in 1977, moved to Forida. And that song ... all the people who moved away, although it contradicted what they did, they held on to it. None of them let go of Jamaica.&quot;

The night that made I Man Born Ya

He remembers the night that literally made I Man Born Ya, a concert held on the Jamaica House lawns with Fabulous Five Incorporated playing the music for the performers. &quot;I was way down at the end,&quot; he said. He would later find out that the line-up had been organised that way specifically because of I Man Born Ya. In front of a crowd Shervington estimates was more than 70,000 people, Prime Minister Michael Manley walked onstage and demanded the 'pull up'.

&quot;After that you could not turn it back,&quot; Shervington said, the song going on to top the charts for weeks.

And the lasting impact of I Man Born Ya in Jamaica did not hit Shervington until 20 years after he left Jamaica for Florida. Although he had come back and done small shows, his first major concert appearance was on Ernie Smith's celebratory 30 years and Life is Just for Living event at The Jamaica Pegasus hotel, with Johnny Nash, Ken Lazarus and the original band which had played the hits.

&quot;It wasn't 'til then I saw Jamaicans were not angry at me because I had written that song and left,&quot; he told The Sunday Gleaner. He chuckles as he said &quot;I had no shame at all. I would walk up onstage and sing it like I had never left.&quot;

Over time, Shervingtion has adjusted lines when he performs I Man Born Ya, the change including &quot;nuff ganja grow ya&quot; and &quot;nah leave ya till me get me visa&quot; in the chorus, as well as &quot;meanwhile Portia lock the gate&quot; in one of the verses.

The Sunday Gleaner asked Shervington if there was any line he would change in the original recording and he paused, looked up and right into the distance of 32 years ago, the rise and fall of his chest the only movement of his body. Then he said &quot;belly full ya&quot;. I would not have written that in the song. There were people here who were starving. That was a selfish line.&quot;

&quot;Mine was full and others were OK, but you had a lot of poor people who were not eating. That is why they took to Michael as they did. He promised them all of you will eat now. Which was a promise he could not keep, unfortunately,&quot; Shervington said.

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Shervington moves to 'Kingston 21'
Published: Sunday | October 18, 2009


Pluto Shervington remembers the moment he decided to leave Jamaica and resettle in Miami clearly.

&quot;I was termed as the uptown one because I would play for all the private parties. Other artistes were doing more the big shows,&quot; Shervington told The Sunday Gleaner.

Right after the 1976 election which returned the Michael Manley-led PNP to power, early in 1977, Shervington said, &quot;I had at least 10 to 12 cancellations. It dawned on me that most of my market was leaving the country. Business took a serious dive. Even the studio, the jingles. At the same time, Ernie was going through his thing over Power and the Glory&quot;.

Even Federal Records, where a lot of the major recording sessions were held, pulled up, shipping out the studio equipment in the process.

&quot;So it was the natural thing to do. Most of my customers were in Miami anyway. I said I am going up there. I have work there. It worked out that way,&quot; Shervington said.

Enthusiastic response

He performed I Man Born Ya to those 'customers', the newly transplanted Jamaicans responding enthusiastically to the song. &quot;People who have moved out of the country use that song as their theme song even more than the people who live here,&quot; Shervington said. If anyone asked how he had done that song and then migrated anyway, he told them the truth about his experience.

Still, Shervingtion pointed out &quot;Miami isn't out of the country. I think we have another Kingston between Dale and Broward. We don't lack anything. It's like Kingston over again. We have the shows, the food, the people. You're talking about 1.5 million of us&quot;.

The numbers were, of course, smaller, but the culture was just as strong when Shervington moved there in 1977. He referred to an event called Sundays on the Bay in Miami which ran for nearly two decades, which he says had the greatest impact, with more than 2,000 persons gathering regularly on a Sunday evening.

&quot;It made Americans and Cubans aware of us and how strong we were,&quot; Shervington said. And he added, &quot;we were the only culture to challenge the Latin American women in terms of looks. Only the Cuban women could challenge.&quot;

Shervington still travels a lot between 'Kingston 21' and Kingston a lot these days. Over the past month he has had three shows in Jamaica, including one with Ernie Smith in Treasure Beach, St Elizabeth, and last night's Jamaica College benefit on the grounds of the Hope Road, St Andrew school.

He emphasised &quot;I have never left here. Even when I am over there. If you ever come and see how we live. It is Kingston 21. Anything that is here is over there, good and bad.&quot;

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BRITISH/JAMAICAN AND PROUD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SandiF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">frack = frock = coat = dress

frack tail = frock tail = coat tail = coat with a tail


18th century british gent in his frock coat

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Lol !...thanks for the history lesson sandi,.....but if being robust in defense of my argument,and getting the better of some folks in the argument then I dont mind being compared to an english gent in a frock,...dont mind at all,I do own a kilt however,...but I can guarantee you I am all man,...british/jamaican man.

I am used to all the childish inuendoes,the silly school ground phrases and all the other juvenile name calling that some folks,especially the less intelligent jamaicans on this board uses when they lose an argument with a better opponent than themselves.

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And another thing,if britain did decide to &quot;kick me out&quot;..LOL !

there is always spain where I have a nice comfortable house in the country 30 minutes drive from the sea,......unnu no worry bout mi,...I am fine trust me on that. </div></div>

Yuh know Neutral, I was thinking of retiring in Spain.

..HOLA mi companero!!


Do you speak any Spanish mate?

.... I share your views an mi can goh back a Juhmaica right now hiff mi want, unlike many...juss di sheg up health care system keeping me away, although *I* must say, thank Gaawd, I am healthy...[knock wood]...dat an di crime..

I agree wid yuh, a whole heap deh a farrin whey juss cyaan goh back...Mi always seh, hiff yuh really want to see who is whoo...meet them on the ROCK.....and yes, some very nice Jamaican brothers who are faithful to their JAMAICAN BORN wives, mi fambly included, still deh deh.

<span style="font-style: italic">no bakkle nar rattin banana flinging puhleeze.. </span>....

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Britisha retiring to spain is a very good idea,that is where me and my wife plan to retire once our youngest starts university in 2 years,we bought our little place there 4 years ago and spend as much time as we can there,the weather is great,the food is healthy,and the people are friendly,obviously there are bad as well as good,but overall I find the spanish people to be very accomodating,considering that spain has been taken over by the brits.

I am not fluent in spanish but speak enough to get by when I am there,I am taking lessons from rafael who is from cuba,he lives in the village and is the only other black apart from myself,I am told there is a jamaican lady further up the next village who actually teach spanish but I havent met her as yet,I look forward to that.
Anytime you need any info give me a shout.

Like yourself I can go back to Ja whenever I want,I have a decent piece of prime land there overlooking the sea,but for me jamaica is not an option right now,and from what I see there it is not likely to be in the near future.

Yes,whole heap a people cant go back,they cant afford it,but there are also some who even if they could would not consider it an option,as &quot;jamaican&quot; as they claim to be,...they would rather be jamaican on the internet where to be a jamaican is far more safe and stressfree.

[Stormmey]

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Neutral what I love love about you is how you are always bighing up your wife and daughters on this board, respect every time for that also that people on here never learn that they cannot win in a match when them start cuss cuss yu...

And for the record me nevva say neone in this thread was cussing, not that I give a hoot if neone thinks that!!

Enlightening post though, even if it is stereotypical.

[evanovitch]

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so y Spain ovaah yaaad ...wi know fr u previous writings dat u no use innuendos, u tawk u tawk n u bigga dan ignore...n dis is not a foolish ? even if asked by a fool as u seh i am

but as the fervent Jcan cum Britisher, why not Ja

[evanovitch]

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i mean u seem to be one of dose who can afford it as u tek time to specify dat some cant afford it an some who can wont...so wat was ur deciding factor

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stormmey1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Neutral what I love love about you is how you are always bighing up your wife and daughters on this board, respect every time for that also that people on here never learn that they cannot win in a match when them start cuss cuss yu...

And for the record me nevva say neone in this thread was cussing, not that I give a hoot if neone thinks that!!

Enlightening post though, even if it is stereotypical. </div></div>

ur most tanned spot is ur nose dont

[Nunya]

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BOAL!