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No it doesn't. You are deliberately misinterpreting sciptures. </div></div>
Naw I guess an instruction to kill all the men and rape women and sell the women into slavry is misintrepation of scriptures...
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Why pray ??? Because you described my genetic cousins decline as due to moral decadance and as a direct punishment from your rape encouraging god.. the moral analog is clear direct and relevant..
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And that argument above was used to colonise and impose eurocentric opnions and economic drivers on half the world.... </div></div>
This is accurate and I uggest you consult the documents in the House of America that demonstrates this.. The reparitmento declaration used by the Spanish prior to each subsequent conquest was based on this premis.. LAS Casas the defender of the Tainos used the exact argument to suggest the use of African slaves.. As both an economicy and theological argument. The followers of Layola all used it.. a a need to colonise.
examine the policires of the German, Dutch, Potugese etal.. Hansard records of the 16th and 17th centurary is filled with these moral statements and desires... <span style="font-weight: bold">The imposing of a single morality over a preexising non chritian moral code.. Resistance to this impostion of christian morality which you espose led to such death as the first Chimurenga, the Maji-Maji rebellion.. all oppoed the same thing of the christians as I oppose this tendency to dictate the entire moralituy of the world based on a fear of sex!</span>
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The incas, myas mexica etal were in the long line of proto -precolumbian groups that ended at the presensce of outside intervention.... They fell not due to imoralityu but the practicalities of history: economics and military might.. Not morality..
Again not accurate.
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Actually very accurate.. unless you are implying that the superiority of the catholic priests were what conquered South America not better military technology local treaties and better military skills were not the cause of the decline... Course my asseation are based on historical undeniable facts yours on myths, European interpretations of middle etstern morality... Still you are right the fact that disease caused more deaths than musket balls and diesease was cause by god not phages, virus and bacterial infection...
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Again don't trivilaize what I am saying. I never spoke of anyone making a pass. I spoke of the decline in morality in a society and the consequences. There are many factors that contribute to the deminse of a civilizationg and the declien in moral standards is often a factor. </div></div>
I dont trivalise what you say.. The man wanted to enter your ramping shop... And we all know the function opf poetry is getting into ramping shop... Men fight fight war for sex... Morality is not a single persons opnion.. I finf the fact that you scared having sex imoral.. it wont end the world... Not having sex is not trivial it is imoral! Sex is the greatest expresion of humanity! not having and denying your self the possibiliy of ever having it again with some one else is frankly immoral... But the Roman empire fell because of the imbanance and decline of its demoractic process removing the relevance of the senate and the removal of the popular plebicite.... As well as the decline of roman military prowess to hold back the hordes of the more civilised peoples of europe.. ie if the rights of the majority are not gaurantted then the centrifugal forces of decent will destroy a society from within.. Marx had another interpretation of history based on a socio economic conflict inherent in the nature of capital but he was wrong as he failed to grasp the essentials of humanities disdain from single sources of morality... Be they economic or theological..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have alreayd addressed all of these points and will not address them again. </div></div>
Actually you never did you simply said they were wrong and by the power vested in you as the voice of god and the decider of morality and all knowledge everything I said was not relevant..
Another interpation which is a matter of opnion based on the information you provided is ::::
The man made a pass at you.. He wanted to come round and have sex with you whenever you felt the need a good shag.. He felt sorry for you.. He saw woman who hasnt had a good rogering for a decade or more.. It was to be a mercy shag!
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No it doesn't. You are deliberately misinterpreting sciptures. </div></div>
Naw I guess an instruction to kill all the men and rape women and sell the women into slavry is misintrepation of scriptures...
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Why pray ??? Because you described my genetic cousins decline as due to moral decadance and as a direct punishment from your rape encouraging god.. the moral analog is clear direct and relevant..
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And that argument above was used to colonise and impose eurocentric opnions and economic drivers on half the world.... </div></div>
This is accurate and I uggest you consult the documents in the House of America that demonstrates this.. The reparitmento declaration used by the Spanish prior to each subsequent conquest was based on this premis.. LAS Casas the defender of the Tainos used the exact argument to suggest the use of African slaves.. As both an economicy and theological argument. The followers of Layola all used it.. a a need to colonise.
examine the policires of the German, Dutch, Potugese etal.. Hansard records of the 16th and 17th centurary is filled with these moral statements and desires... <span style="font-weight: bold">The imposing of a single morality over a preexising non chritian moral code.. Resistance to this impostion of christian morality which you espose led to such death as the first Chimurenga, the Maji-Maji rebellion.. all oppoed the same thing of the christians as I oppose this tendency to dictate the entire moralituy of the world based on a fear of sex!</span>
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The incas, myas mexica etal were in the long line of proto -precolumbian groups that ended at the presensce of outside intervention.... They fell not due to imoralityu but the practicalities of history: economics and military might.. Not morality..
Again not accurate.
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Actually very accurate.. unless you are implying that the superiority of the catholic priests were what conquered South America not better military technology local treaties and better military skills were not the cause of the decline... Course my asseation are based on historical undeniable facts yours on myths, European interpretations of middle etstern morality... Still you are right the fact that disease caused more deaths than musket balls and diesease was cause by god not phages, virus and bacterial infection...
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Again don't trivilaize what I am saying. I never spoke of anyone making a pass. I spoke of the decline in morality in a society and the consequences. There are many factors that contribute to the deminse of a civilizationg and the declien in moral standards is often a factor. </div></div>
I dont trivalise what you say.. The man wanted to enter your ramping shop... And we all know the function opf poetry is getting into ramping shop... Men fight fight war for sex... Morality is not a single persons opnion.. I finf the fact that you scared having sex imoral.. it wont end the world... Not having sex is not trivial it is imoral! Sex is the greatest expresion of humanity! not having and denying your self the possibiliy of ever having it again with some one else is frankly immoral... But the Roman empire fell because of the imbanance and decline of its demoractic process removing the relevance of the senate and the removal of the popular plebicite.... As well as the decline of roman military prowess to hold back the hordes of the more civilised peoples of europe.. ie if the rights of the majority are not gaurantted then the centrifugal forces of decent will destroy a society from within.. Marx had another interpretation of history based on a socio economic conflict inherent in the nature of capital but he was wrong as he failed to grasp the essentials of humanities disdain from single sources of morality... Be they economic or theological..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have alreayd addressed all of these points and will not address them again. </div></div>
Actually you never did you simply said they were wrong and by the power vested in you as the voice of god and the decider of morality and all knowledge everything I said was not relevant..
Another interpation which is a matter of opnion based on the information you provided is ::::
The man made a pass at you.. He wanted to come round and have sex with you whenever you felt the need a good shag.. He felt sorry for you.. He saw woman who hasnt had a good rogering for a decade or more.. It was to be a mercy shag!
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