STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

**sistacaf** · 05-09-2010, 12:45 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> their comments which are always nasty and insulting</div></div>

my belly. well if <span style="font-style: italic">THAT</span> ain't the pot calling the kettle iron -

riiiiiight, yet apparently it's perfectly acceptable for <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> to repeatedly insult people right and left when they do not fit into your narrow self-righteous definition of moral superiority

Hypocrisy.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sex is intended to be shared by 2 individuals in a committed relationship </div></div>

yah, to YOU. not everyone in the world thinks this. nor does everyone in the world care about what the bible says.

newsflash Hortense - other ways of thinking and living that differ from your own, are perfectly normal - even if they are not your ways. <span style="font-style: italic">the world does not revolve around you.</span>

**julie*mango** · 05-09-2010, 12:48 PM

dis nuh right a baxide tropicana!!!

how come she nuh ignore wahalla all now?

is only wen ooman tell her as it is she fine ignore button?

tropicana yu nat ongly racist but yu sexist!

**Wahalla** · 05-09-2010, 01:49 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Clearly you have not read or chosen to ignore what I wrote. He begged me to go out with him for months. When I refused he made his indecent proposition. That is not a mercy shag. A mercy shag is when someone is not interested in someone and they offer to screw them out of pity. This is not what happened here and it is insulting of you to suggest this. A man interested in a mercy shag does not contact a woman several times a day BEGGING her to go out with him. </div></div>

Or he could be a humanitarian sexual philanthropist ? with you as the target of his charity ???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Immoral activity has been going on almost since the dawn of time. That does not mean that sex is equivalent to having a beer. Sex is intended to be shared by 2 individuals in a committed relationship. It is the most intimate and beautiful experience that 2 individuals can share even though some do their best to cheapen it. </div></div>
Sex between willing legal participants is not immoral.. not under any moral code.. it may be a sin in your eyes but it is not immoral .. Course the bible calls for stoning and slavery as a censure of such activities which is not of course immoral!

And sex may be in your eyes between two individuals in a commited relationship restiction .. but there are multiple types of sexual encounters.. As long as it does not frigthen the cows as long as the participants are legally able to give the concent.. I have no problem with that... Course your postion is a eurocentric interpretation of sexual encounters which ignores the Abharmic, Solomonic, Pharonic,sub Saharan Africian traditions..

And no it is not ego.. This is the fifth time as soon as I have pointed out the flaws in your logic that you have invited the moderator to close a thread when iimidiately after I have demonstrated with cool logic the elephant in the room! You never mentioned closing it or Faithful comment till after my points illuminated the flaws... Then the red herring of that I insulted you..

Once would be ego, twice an affectations but five times is a pattern..

**Tropicana** · 05-09-2010, 02:14 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Or he could be a humanitarian sexual philanthropist ? with you as the target of his charity ??? </div></div>

Whatever Clearly you are just being <span style="font-weight: bold">TOTALLY </span> ridiculous and silly.

Just opened these. He kept bombarding me with messages that I archived without reading before telling him not to bother me anymore. There were more too but can't boddah

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "i hope that wasn't rude. i just really wanted you to know. "

"I've never had a one night stand before. I just like you."

" I apologize if I came across the wrong way. I think you are a great person who is attractive."

"Are you mad at me? "</div></div>

Clearly HE was the one begging for charity.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "Please don't take me the wrong way. Since you aren't interested in dating me, I just thought you could help me out until I have better luck at the dating thing. I am really attracted to you."
</div></div>

Won't make any more comments on THIS aspect. Clearly the guy is desperate for sex. This has NOTHING to do with charity

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Sex between willing legal participants is not immoral.. not under any moral code.. it may be a sin in your eyes but it is not immoral ..</div></div>

Hello! The Bible makes it REALLY CLEAR that pre-marital sex and adultery is wrong. Just about every legal code makes it clear that adultery is wrong even if the 2 participants are willing. Where have you been?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Course the bible calls for stoning and slavery as a censure of such activities which is not of course immoral! </div></div> Don't take scriptures out of context and twist them to fit your own agenda. This is not Faith and Reason so I am not about to get into a chapter and verse Bible study with you. Perhaps CEW or Compry wil engage you. Where is Beloved or remember those 2 wonderful individuals who used to be in Faith and Reason. Forgot their names but I miss them. Servant maybe? I can't remember the other one. I guess they gave up and left.

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And sex may be in your eyes between two individuals in a commited relationship restiction .. but there are multiple types of sexual encounters.. As long as it does not frigthen the cows as long as the participants are legally able to give the concent.. I have no problem with that... </div></div> That is YOU. The Bible takes a different view.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Course your postion is a eurocentric interpretation of sexual encounters which ignores the Abharmic, Solomonic, Pharonic,sub Saharan Africian traditions.. </div></div>

Hello!! The Bible was not written by White Europeans. Come come now truly you aren't fooled by these eurocentric images in so many churches.
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And no it is not ego.. This is the fifth time as soon as I have pointed out the flaws in your logic that you have invited the moderator to close a thread when iimidiately after I have demonstrated with cool logic the elephant in the room! </div></div>DUH! Read again I called for closure after Faithful's EXCELLENT comment and from time to time have reminded the moderators. Perhaps they have not seen my comments. Time to blow the whistle.
As for the cool logic part all I can say is. Give me a flippin' break. The raondom baggy dropping that you have been advocatiing LOGIC?!?

<span style="font-weight: bold">PUH-LEEEEEESE!! </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> You never mentioned closing it or Faithful comment till after my points illuminated the flaws... Then the red herring of that I insulted you.. </div></div>

My request came AFTER & IN <span style="font-weight: bold">DIRECT</span> RESPONSE TO Faithfull's comment and I am not going to debate that with you any further.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Once would be ego, twice an affectations but five times is a pattern..
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Whatever

**britisha** · 05-09-2010, 03:19 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

BY Wahalla:

[QUOTE]<span style="font-style: italic">

Sex between willing legal participants is not immoral.. not under any moral code.. it may be a sin in your eyes but it is not immoral .. Course the bible calls for stoning and slavery as a censure of such activities which is not of course immoral!</span>

...this is NOT exactly true, AND depending on who you talk to. THEIR PHILOSOPHY MIGHT ASCRIBE "TRUTH" TO THIS.. I notice that you used the word "legal participants"...care to clarify exactly whet you mean Wallie?

Legal in whose eyes?

In Iran an unmarried WO-MAN who has sex with a married man would be stoned, no?

..so why talk about only the Bible [alone?]

I think we need to cut each other some slack and respect people's POV and agree to disagree..

Not to get personal, but what would a married man do hiff his wife is sleeping wid him cousin and giving him bun, would that be MORALLY OKAY?

...and btw, there is sex, and then there<span style="font-weight: bold"> IS</span> sexual intercourse...depends on many factors, but I digress.

**Seveen** · 05-09-2010, 03:25 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<span style="font-size: 14pt">i don't understand the "purpose" of the initial post . . . brag, inform, shout from the rafters . . . </span>

**britisha** · 05-09-2010, 03:28 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">i don't understand the "purpose" of the initial post . . . brag, inform, shout from the rafters . . . </span>
</div></div>

Me neidah, mi waan fi know how he got her e-mail addie.

**Seveen** · 05-09-2010, 03:32 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfull</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">i don't understand the "purpose" of the initial post . . . brag, inform, shout from the rafters . . . </span>
</div></div>

Me neidah, mi waan fi know how he got her e-mail addie. </div></div>

u seet

**diabolical_Tanya** · 05-09-2010, 03:32 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfull</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">i don't understand the "purpose" of the initial post . . . brag, inform, shout from the rafters . . . </span>
</div></div>

Me neidah, mi waan fi know how he got her e-mail addie. </div></div>he got it from the social networking site that they are both members of

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well a few months ago before he moved out, he sent me a connection request on a social media site. Not sure how he found me.
</div></div>second line of the original post

**Seveen** · 05-09-2010, 03:35 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<span style="font-size: 11pt">and why bother to accept?</span>

**Wahalla** · 05-09-2010, 03:40 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whatever </div></div>

A argument worthy of Jerry springer and similar TV affirmed intellectuals but not of an succuient debate.

The bible is confused as a moral compass and is the first resort of historical excused excesses.. I mean it does suggest stoning and not to eat pork and rape as weapon of war...You chose to affirm a morality based on a document that calls morality on diets and apparel while that allows at one point multiple partners..

Ah you now acknowledge that the bible is not the sole source of a moral compass.. The first step to spiritual liberation!

Ah but it was in reply to my post that you advocated closing the thread...

The man made a pass at you..( one reason could be that he felt you were lonely an attractive determined philontropic gesture on his part is one possible likely scanario which was miscontruded on your part. Hence afirmation of bombarding...

(Bob Marley put it well the use of bombarding pass technique::::
From the much forgotten song.. Im gonna get you baby:

By ah hesitation on the telephone
where before it was simply no
Girl youre curious now some way some how)

He did nothing imoral, nothing sinful he did not rape, suggest you eat pork, shell fish, wear cotton and linen, associate with people during your period all sins according to your moral compass..

Actually there is no restriction in making a pass in there (it says not to commit adultery not not to make passes !.. in fact the songs of songs is stock filled with witticism to enhanced making passes at the opposite sex....

And yes the biblical translation is based on European tradition and translations.. for instance the fact that Christ died on the cross is in direct contraditiction to the Gospel of Peter on which the islamic tradition is based!

**Tropicana** · 05-09-2010, 03:50 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

Faithfull, he found me on a social networking site and wrote to me there to profess his undying love for me It was late at night, I figured that im ding-a-ling did a trouble im bad and he was hoping to pop upstairs and relieve himself. It took MONTHS before he made his intentions clear but I did suspect from the beginning. When he came out with it bold just soh. Mi was

He still doesn't have my e-mail addy. He was living downstairs from me at the time. It came out of the blue. I was shocked. The most contact we had really had was raking the leaves and shoveling snow.

Purpose of original post was to vent, express outrage and shock, make fun of him, laugh at him, and start a discussion about the declining moral standards in our society. However, clearly that doesn't fit the agenda of the raondom baggy and brief dropping possee.

Thanks for jumping in Tanya. When he sent a friend request, at time, I didn't have a CLUE what was up. I thought he was just being neighbourly. Next thing im send chat request. At first it was just "I'm sorry about what happened with my daughter and your car. I want to make it up to you. Can we go out for a drink?" I declined and said it wasn't neccesary. Then it was to tell you the truth I've been trying to figure out a way to ask you out becuase I've had a crush on you for months. I was

made it clear I didn't see him that way.

Thank God he didn't make his indecdent proposal when he was still living downstairs. Now THAT would have been awkward.

**Wahalla** · 05-09-2010, 03:51 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...this is NOT exactly true, AND depending on who you talk to. THEIR PHILOSOPHY MIGHT ASCRIBE "TRUTH" TO THIS.. I notice that you used the word "legal participants"...care to clarify exactly whet you mean Wallie? </div></div>

As always you notice the most important point I sort to make....
Thats is another thread completely.. My POV is that making a pass is a normal action on the part of sexual...

I did not call your name, and I did not seek to draw attention to you for that I apologise. But on at least 5 times I have made a contradtiory point of veiw and have the otehr person demand the thread be closed.. This time I seek simply the acknowledgement that morality is not the purvue of the individual. I make no bones that if some one wants to have sex soly in marriage that is their view and let them live with it.

But dont condemen the rest of the planet who define themselve by other moral systems as immoral.. That takes the fun out of fundamental and leave only the Mental...

Men make passes at lasses. At times this is crude, at times it is subtle.... I have in the past had recreational sex. This is not the cause of the fall of Taino nation, the fall of the Mexica nation.... The inuit so did some SAN groups and other first nations had a tradition of comfort wives to travellers that made sense from a community heath and a genetic diversity perspective. .Moral it was.... Circumtance and conditions determine morality. Morality cannot be ossified by a tradition that stopped movung 2000 years ago...

**sistacaf** · 05-09-2010, 03:58 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But dont condemen the rest of the planet who define themselve by other moral systems as immoral.. </div></div>

EXACTLY. Intolerance of other's beliefs/lifestyles is not an indication of intelligence or morality. in fact, just the opposite - it indicates ignorance, lack of intelligence, and smallmindedness. citing one's degrees and using big words does not mean someone is intelligent or superior.

the purpose of the original post was to once again, and ad nauseum, proclaim superiority by ridiculing and insulting others, making oneself feel big by putting others down to make them appear small, and to gain public agreement for same so the veneer of self-proclaimed moral superiority is upheld.

and the minute others do not buy into that, it's off and runnin, whinin & cryin to the admins to shut down anything that does not jump on the 'judging & ridiculing' bandwagon.

- it's the bailiwick of the weak and insecure.

**Tropicana** · 05-09-2010, 04:03 PM

Re: STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> He did nothing imoral, nothing sinful</div></div>

Yes he did.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Actually there is no restriction in making a pass in there (it says not to commit adultery not not to make passes !.. </div></div>

Jesus said that if a man even looks at a woman with lust in his heart he has already committed adultery so you tan deh.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> in fact the songs of songs is stock filled with witticism to enhanced making passes at the opposite sex....</div></div>

Songs of Solomon was a love poem written to Solomon's wife. Read my lips...he wasn't advocating random baggy dropping or a booty call.

Mind you he eventually did fall into sin and the Bible also makes THAT clear. He did have a problem with lust.

STILL shocked.....event though mi did suspect dat...

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