Where are all the good men?

[Suesumba]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coolbeans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">alrite u lucky me see this poas before me tek off my airsrings and get ready fi trow down </div></div>

as if you could take me [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whatever.gif[/img]

being an expert on failed relationships what i've learned that we have unrealistic expectations. there also doesn't seem to be a need for permanence in most relationships these days. the grass is always greener. it's like going to the mall. you bought on impulse, so bring it back.

what we need to do is take time to really study a smaddy fi determine if dem a good man or good ooman. gone are the days of courting when people really fine out how a smaddy move before dem goh di next step.

[diabolical_Tanya]

Re: Where are all the good men?

Well mi notice seh a di NON single one dem a come een come sidetrack di argument So mek mi dis leff outta dis post [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/nahtalktoyuh.gif[/img]

[Suesumba]

Re: Where are all the good men?

also i should note that at a certain age the good men would have paired off with the good women they met through, work, functions, family, educational institutions and the like, leaving the the dysfunctional perverts whose idea of romance and relationships consists asking to give you medical examinations, and they're not even doctors. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif[/img]

[Ivory]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Di_Real_Wife</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ivoree</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All around... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70409-waytogo.gif[/img] </div></div>

Thats because you got one..... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70400-talktohand.gif[/img] </div></div>

Hush...mi have couple extra stash wey... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70390-shhh.gif[/img]

You in Ontario?

[Kurlie]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coolbeans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">alrite u lucky me see this poas before me tek off my airsrings and get ready fi trow down </div></div>

as if you could take me [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whatever.gif[/img]

being an expert on failed relationships what i've learned that we have unrealistic expectations. there also doesn't seem to be a need for permanence in most relationships these days. the grass is always greener. it's like going to the mall. you bought on impulse, so bring it back.

what we need to do is take time to really study a smaddy fi determine if dem a good man or good ooman. gone are the days of courting when people really fine out how a smaddy move before dem goh di next step.

</div></div>

yu hit di nail pon ie head deh Sue...too much expectations...woman want to tell man how to be a man and man want to tell woman how to be a woman.

Then dere is the "how much you love me" issue, not because you love him to death no mean sey him fi love you to death...you love the way you can love and him love the way him can love and if that love is not satisfactory to you dat mean uno no fi uno one anedda. It goes both ways.

[Shine_Eye_Girl]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ivoree</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Di_Real_Wife</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ivoree</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All around... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70409-waytogo.gif[/img] </div></div>

Thats because you got one..... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70400-talktohand.gif[/img] </div></div>

Hush...mi have couple extra stash wey... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70390-shhh.gif[/img]

You in Ontario? </div></div>

No mi deh ah stinkin dutty NY.....

[Kurlie]

Re: Where are all the good men?

I love reading this.

<span style="color: #660000">Love and Freedom

We need to follow our freedom. Then we will understand everything. To allow others to be what they are, and do what they do. And know that we can say yes. And no. Even to the ones closest to us, the ones we esteem above all others. Freedom is also freeing others of our expectations. Releasing them from our ideas of who and what and how.

We can share our preferences with those we love, but if they from their freedom choose different, then it is up to us how we will respond.

It is amazing when one sees how unfree people behave. Particularly in the realms of earthly love. To realize that one has always behaved this way. They can encounter one who gives them all of the best of himself, Endless hours of love, encouragement, devotion, and the only string attached is that they give all their best as well. That they come as a free person too.

Then, in some particular he disappoints by not meeting their expectation in that moment. He does not behave as they think he should. Suddenly, everything about him is called into question: his motives, his character... it is disconcerting for an unfree person to see how a free one moves. He loves them, but he is not committed to their expectations of him. He does as he will. What they do not see is that they can too.

True freedom is not achieved without fearlessness.

Unfree people become afraid when this one they love does as he does, is as he is. They have much invested in his being a certain way. After all he has given still they are not content. The very simple reason for this is that they are not living free, and will not be content until they are.

For an unfree person, along with a swim in the sea of love comes a sand-bag around the neck, a sense of entitlement. When one is not free one must try to enslave others; it is unavoidable, no matter one's intention. This can be very subtle and difficult for one to discern in one's self. Unless you are a brute, it is easy for you not to see the demands you come into a relationship with. And if they are not met in all particulars, you suffer a great sense of disappointment. You can try to impose your vision of how he ought to be on him, but if he is free he will always reject it. He reminds you that he welcomes you into his heart and his life as you are, for truly he needs nothing in particular from you. He simply sees and values who you are. And because he needs nothing from you he is able to see you as you are in a way even you yourself cannot.

'I did not like it when you said that. When you did that.' To you, this is the ultimate indictment, because you expect him to do only things you like.

To choose freedom is to become in the ultimate sense unattached to what others do and others say.

He is free to do and say as he will. If you do not choose your freedom, the sign is that this makes you very angry! You want to say, "Don't you see? I have given you everything! I can't say no to you so you should never ask me to do things I don't like. I have given you my whole self, so you have to protect it now. I am Yours!"

A free man will always laugh at this point. And reject this completely. This is not how free people conceive of love. Unfree people go through life looking for that someone they can GIVE themselves to, looking at this not as the ultimate betrayal of themselves, but as the great gift no smart man can refuse. They do not see that what they are talking is mutual enslavement, and not love.

No man who truly loves us will ever buy into this devil's bargain.

When we are truly beginning to grasp the meaning of freedom, we see that in an absolute sense we do belong to our man, and he to us, and indeed that all of us here belong to each other. When we begin to truly love we see that we are all One Self! We can delight each other, share passion with each other, work together, play together: so many things we can do. The one thing we can not do is possess each other in the relative earthly sense.</span>
<span style="color: #660000">My man is not put on this earth to be in every particular what I need him to be. What I can depend on with certainty is that he will always be himself, and that he does not require me in turn to be anything other than myself. In the context of true love and freedom, I will not lose his love by expressing my freedom anymore than he will lose mine by expressing his. That I may feel afraid at times to be forthright with him is an indicator that I have a way to go to be free, and really has nothing to do with him at all. He can also choose not to engage my criticisms of his behavior, because a free person knows that criticism of this kind springs from an unfree mind and heart which is disappointed in its expectations.

A free person is a person without hope, without 'should'. A free person simply is, in every moment, free. And a free person is the only kind of person who can be trusted, because he will never try to convince you to be or do anything which you can not, or choose not, to be or do.

One thing though. A free person has little tolerance for ones who are still in slavery and expect him to participate. In this world, freedom is regularly challenged by the ignorant, and always must be defended.
</span>

[seemiyah]

Re: Where are all the good men?

Well mi was going to run come inna dis post and say dem "ugly and short" den mi read Kurlie response and shame.... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

[Shine_Eye_Girl]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurlie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coolbeans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">alrite u lucky me see this poas before me tek off my airsrings and get ready fi trow down </div></div>

as if you could take me [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whatever.gif[/img]

being an expert on failed relationships what i've learned that we have unrealistic expectations. there also doesn't seem to be a need for permanence in most relationships these days. the grass is always greener. it's like going to the mall. you bought on impulse, so bring it back.

what we need to do is take time to really study a smaddy fi determine if dem a good man or good ooman. gone are the days of courting when people really fine out how a smaddy move before dem goh di next step.

</div></div>

yu hit di nail pon ie head deh Sue...too much expectations...woman want to tell man how to be a man and man want to tell woman how to be a woman.

Then dere is the "how much you love me" issue, not because you love him to death no mean sey him fi love you to death...you love the way you can love and him love the way him can love and if that love is not satisfactory to you dat mean uno no fi uno one anedda. It goes both ways. </div></div>

I hear ya on the unrealistic expectations, and I can assure you thats not me. I only ask for 50/50, you love me and I love you, you respect me and I respect you, you make me feel like I am YOUR woman and I make you feel like YOU are my man.


I am just tired of the drama that comes with men (or should I say boys) bring. I am very old afasioned when it comes to relationships.

[Ivory]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Di_Real_Wife</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ivoree</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Di_Real_Wife</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ivoree</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All around... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70409-waytogo.gif[/img] </div></div>

Thats because you got one..... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70400-talktohand.gif[/img] </div></div>

Hush...mi have couple extra stash wey... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70390-shhh.gif[/img]

You in Ontario? </div></div>

No mi deh ah stinkin dutty NY..... </div></div>

ok mi have 1 male cousin 31 still unmarried in CT...

one friend Kipling who is a realtor who daily complains about the lack of good quality women in NY...says he is going back to JA to find one bring back with him. He is in Brooklyn. 35/6 years old...

in deh younger category..one next cousin in Brooklyn 23 well grounded... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

[dahjah]

Re: Where are all the good men?

unno gwaan like unno nuh kno bout man enuh...

A man nuh want nuh ooman who suh gwaanie gwaanie over shoes, purse, nails, hair, etc.

A man ( a real man)want a woman who have sense, who can program her own blasted vcr or dvd, who is into her ppl (a de blk one mi a talk bout enuh) [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif[/img]

unno kno everyting bout reality tv, an nuh kno much bout nubia, or KMT, etc. etc. Reality TV conversation cyaan hold no real or good man.

Is de same reaon de blk church cyaan keep blk man een deh, it's all bout reality.

[Kurlie]

Re: Where are all the good men?

like nylah sey..pimpin ain't easy [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

[ReggaeGirl2000]

Re: Where are all the good men?

Good ones are either married or gay [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]

[ReggaeGirl2000]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">unno gwaan like unno nuh kno bout man enuh...

A man nuh want nuh ooman who suh gwaanie gwaanie over shoes, purse, nails, hair, etc.

A man ( a real man)want a woman who have sense, who can program her own blasted vcr or dvd, who is into her ppl (a de blk one mi a talk bout enuh) [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif[/img]

unno kno everyting bout reality tv, an nuh kno much bout nubia, or KMT, etc. etc. Reality TV conversation cyaan hold no real or good man.

Is de same reaon de blk church cyaan keep blk man een deh, it's all bout reality. </div></div>

Mi a fit into these categories [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[BlessedLadyOfZion]

Re: Where are all the good men?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ReggaeGirl2000</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">unno gwaan like unno nuh kno bout man enuh...

A man nuh want nuh ooman who suh gwaanie gwaanie over shoes, purse, nails, hair, etc.

A man ( a real man)want a woman who have sense, who can program her own blasted vcr or dvd, who is into her ppl (a de blk one mi a talk bout enuh) [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif[/img]

unno kno everyting bout reality tv, an nuh kno much bout nubia, or KMT, etc. etc. Reality TV conversation cyaan hold no real or good man.

Is de same reaon de blk church cyaan keep blk man een deh, it's all bout reality. </div></div>

Mi a fit into these categories [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>It's settled. RG200 can be the new empress then