ok since we confessing....

[jah_yout]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">confession time?

never posted on shoutbox </div></div> so the rumor that you alter ego is spengdon is not true den </div></div>

who seh dat??

afta mi butt up dah guy deh inna soundclash hummuch time ahreddy

[Tropicana]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Her patois A DE BOMB!!! </div></div> bet she never teach you that </div></div>

My father would have killed her.

[RichD]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but i fail to see how any Jcan cannot have spoken any patois.... </div></div> i should introduce you to my mother

[evanovitch]

Re: ok since we confessing....

with respect RichD not because it is spoken wid a cultured accent, does not make it a form of patois...but i giveway to ur claim...juss dont believe it of any Jcan of colour , regardless of shade ....

[jah_yout]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but i fail to see how any Jcan cannot have spoken any patois.... </div></div> i should introduce you to my mother </div></div>

i know j'cans that i've never heard use patwa...i know they CAN though if the want...
just never actually heard them use it

like some a dem stoosh mo-bay people

[Wahalla]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wahalla, at the root of wedda any yaadie speaks r dont speak patois, IMO, (redundancy of IMO fi emphasis) is latent classism....in di said way, dat peeps wi go outta dem way to use it to show dem is down wid OPP...odda people's patois u know , how wen Portia etal wi bruk out eena some cause dem feel seh dem wi be grounds...latent classim dat too u know

the level of ur use may be up fi ?ing but i fail to see how any Jcan cannot have spoken any patois....even Rex Nettleford wid his Oxfordian accent would use it

but den, i am juss being a gadfly as usual </div></div>

Evsan I agree totally with you... And ehre in is where there is a disconnect... the children of Jamaicans who wanted their children to do well so tried to prevent the use of patwa.. see patwa as a badge of honour as a Jamaican culture.. I am astonished that so many on here admit to this...

Doc Dudd whom I have the utmost respect for admits to not speaking it at home or with his social group... I have nutting gainst it but it seems to me that immigrant experience has evolved how patwa is seen...

My self I know I was told I spoke bad so often and it was seen as a difentiator, as a yard stick by which inteligence was judged.. But what was being judged and feared was the class... Class is rarely debated on here alot of times it is hidden in the language of so called race.. But wha mi kno ??? mi his a chat bad sumadi who cyan speal prapa.. who neva gat no yanqi education....

[RichD]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">even Rex Nettleford wid his Oxfordian accent would use it

</div></div> there is a difference between an affectation and somebody just speaking unbroken english.

[Derek]

Re: ok since we confessing....

I confess that I can't dance, can't play cricket; I'm poorly endowed, I'm racist and I'm white.

[evanovitch]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">even Rex Nettleford wid his Oxfordian accent would use it

</div></div> there is a difference between an affectation and somebody just speaking unbroken english. </div></div>

the affectation comes about wid di accent in wich di unbroken english is spoken so as to create the divide

[jah_yout]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">even Rex Nettleford wid his Oxfordian accent would use it

</div></div> there is a difference between an affectation and somebody just speaking unbroken english. </div></div>

the affectation comes about wid di accent in wich di unbroken english is spoken so as to create the divide </div></div>

mi nuh agree wid di broken english ting...
if patwa is broken english then spanish &amp; englisgh are broken latin &amp; latin/germanic mix respectively

[RichD]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">even Rex Nettleford wid his Oxfordian accent would use it

</div></div> there is a difference between an affectation and somebody just speaking unbroken english. </div></div>

the affectation comes about wid di accent in wich di unbroken english is spoken so as to create the divide </div></div> so there has to be some accent affected to speak unbrken english ..can just be spoken with the &quot;native&quot; inflection?

[Tropicana]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I confess that I can't dance, can't play cricket; I'm poorly endowed, I'm racist and I'm white. </div></div>

Ah but do you check fi Black Jamaican ooman? THAT is the question.

[evanovitch]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

even Rex Nettleford wid his Oxfordian accent would use it

</div></div> there is a difference between an affectation and somebody just speaking unbroken english. </div></div>

the affectation comes about wid di accent in wich di unbroken english is spoken so as to create the divide </div></div>

mi nuh agree wid di broken english ting...
if patwa is broken english then spanish &amp; englisgh are broken latin &amp; latin/germanic mix respectively

do u disagree wid how i defined 'broken english' elsewhere in this post?

[evanovitch]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

even Rex Nettleford wid his Oxfordian accent would use it

</div></div> there is a difference between an affectation and somebody just speaking unbroken english. </div></div>

the affectation comes about wid di accent in wich di unbroken english is spoken so as to create the divide </div></div> so there has to be some accent affected to speak unbrken english ..can just be spoken with the &quot;native&quot; inflection?

wich brings it full circle dont....it is the 'native' dat wi dont want to be tied into ...dont

[Tuff Gong]

Re: ok since we confessing....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">here we go again. patwa has variances from english grammar. as such, it is more than broken english. </div></div>Patois at its basic is just broken English!