looking down your nose at a blue collar man/woman

**Suesumba** · 09-26-2006, 05:01 PM

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on an ending note if the Carpenter have sense and can talk properly when necessary and have good social skills all fine and well....if you are not making the same amount of money but intellectually you are on the same level that can work

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dat mi seh. especially if him know likkle electrical wiring. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70377-loveeyes.gif[/img]

but honestly, how often do these two mesh? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

**Kimberley24** · 09-26-2006, 05:07 PM

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bouy u guys a hold mi up i should have left 4 mins ago...anyways last note again....It happens alot it seems go read JET magazine the marraige section no is lie i mean whey the other Black magazine yes Ebony. Nuff top notch woman marrying well uhm men who no so top notch....can't find a none offensive phrase anyways i'm gone

**mountaingal** · 09-26-2006, 05:07 PM

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in addition to the friend above, i have another friend who has been living for about 10 years with a carpenter (what is it about carpenters)? here's how they work it - if they want intellectual chat and so on, they have dinner with friends. the guys hang with their own friends. what the women value in the guys from what i can see, is that the guy is there for them - especially emotionally. lissen to dem vent about work, take care of lickle things for them. and in return, the women support the guys in their business, and are also there for them too, emotionally.

**gullygirl** · 09-26-2006, 05:09 PM

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All jokes aside, I NEED the intellectual stimulation so I need someone on my level who can fit into my "world".. mi get bored easily..

Social skills have to be on point as well..I dated a guy with a Masters degree, who could not control his urge to cuss Ja'can badwud fi no reason.. is like him use dem fi adjectives..

On the other hand a dated a a UPS delivery guy.. (sexy nuh baxcova, tall & athletic [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70377-loveeyes.gif[/img]).. such a classy bredda..well read..we used to have the most amazing conversations.. the kinds that left you feeling like you have had an orgasm...

**Suesumba** · 09-26-2006, 05:11 PM

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in addition to the friend above, i have another friend who has been living for about 10 years with a carpenter (what is it about carpenters)? here's how they work it - if they want intellectual chat and so on, they have dinner with friends. the guys hang with their own friends. what the women value in the guys from what i can see, is that the guy is there for them - especially emotionally. lissen to dem vent about work, take care of lickle things for them. and in return, the women support the guys in their business, and are also there for them too, emotionally.

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your friends have been blessed to find decent men [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70409-waytogo.gif[/img] i'm no *top notch* anything myself, but man weh aggoh bawl out bout him noh nyam junju inna restaurant kinda hard to deal wid [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70390-shhh.gif[/img] a good working man with 9b]native intelligence[/b] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70384-praying.gif[/img] what a blessing.

**mountaingal** · 09-26-2006, 05:15 PM

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man weh aggoh bawl out bout him noh nyam junju inna restaurant kinda hard to deal wid

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[img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] o gosh, mi a dedd... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

sometime you haffi bring dem along enuh, if you deem that it mite bi worth the effort. but sometime it no wutti.

**Suesumba** · 09-26-2006, 05:18 PM

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but sometime it no wutti.

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he was too hard to train mountain. and the junju thing was really true. teng gawd it was a chinese restaurant [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img] his credit was also so bad that he actually got ripped off because he asked someone to "buy a cell phone in his name". \o/ you know? just a lack of common sense re: the bare basics [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

**sistacaf** · 09-26-2006, 05:41 PM

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White, Asian and other groups of women with higher education or that are successful would never look at a guy that wasn't at their level, why should we be expected to.

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this is not always true. I'm highly educated, in a technical field (IT) and i MUCH prefer regular workin men over businessman-lawyers-doctors. I don't even think of it in terms of "levels" - that creates "classism", a false superiority/inferiority thing, like: "who is better than who".....just another way to classify myself in a way to feel that i am 'better than' another person. I don't play that & could not care LESS about it.

A man who is hardworking, responsible, loving, and caring (OK and hot, too!) [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70377-loveeyes.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] is what matters to me, coulnd't give a hoot about what type a job they do, as long as whatever they do -- that they do it with focus, responsibility, & ambition. Don't care how much formal education someone has, regardless of whether it is more or less than me, I don't compare those things about people; that's superficial and unimportant (to me anyway). Some people have all the money and advantages in the world, the best 'formal' education money can buy - and them dumb as a bag of rocks and no amount a education can improve that. Others have loads of natural intelligence, but not much formal schooling - and them can do anyting them want in this world, degree or not. I coulnd't care which it is, as long as they are naturally bright & intelligent. I know quite a few very well-educated men who chose to go into construction cause they prefer the work vibe and lifestyle, and dem with university and graduate school degrees too - not to mention the electricians, who must be of above-average intelligence to do their jobs and be certified - otherwise the building go blow up when yuh flip the switch fi turn on the lights. That's a very complex field once you are up at the "master" certificaitons....so don't nobody go makin too much assumptions bout construction and them type a jobs being on a "lower level". [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70388-shameonyou.gif[/img]

so-called "blue collar" folks are less stoosh, less uptight, DEFINITELY less concerned about the superficial things like appearance, obtaining fancy cars, houses, designer clothes, jewelry - all that stuff is meaningless to me. A blue-collar guy is much more "real" and down to earth. Gimme a carpenter or a plumber any day in him jeans and boots, who leaves his work at work, and comes home stress-free at 4 PM, done for the day. Y'all can keep the lawyers and doctors whe workin dem 28 hours, 8 days a week, late at dem office every night..... have fun keepin up with the Joneses. We'll be out back barbecuin on the deck & sprayin the kids with the hose [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

**Night Nurse** · 09-26-2006, 06:16 PM

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Wat mi noytissing more an more is dat di problem nuh reely lie widd di edumicated oomenz but widd di unedumicated menz dem whe feel intimidaytid and insecure. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

As soon as dem hear yuh talk a certain way bout certain tings, dem stawt drap wurds an mek comments bout tappanaris dis and dat. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70400-talktohand.gif[/img]

Cho, mi nuh waan nuhbady whe haffi alwayz waahfi compete and always a try fi trip yuh up wenn demma watch Jepoardy. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70400-talktohand.gif[/img] Mi tyad fi a chry qualify an justify widd di insecure man dem, suh mi juss guh straight fi di souljah dem whe have dem degree from di school of Hawd Knocks an nuh feel threatened by no bady. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

**Serenity82** · 09-26-2006, 08:46 PM

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suesumba summ aff dem blu collar mann mekk more widd less student loan

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construction men make good money! But if you have a degree how would you and him be able to carry on intelligent conversations?

**Serenity82** · 09-26-2006, 08:54 PM

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White, Asian and other groups of women with higher education or that are successful would never look at a guy that wasn't at their level, why should we be expected to.

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this is not always true. I'm highly educated, in a technical field (IT) and i MUCH prefer regular workin men over businessman-lawyers-doctors. I don't even think of it in terms of "levels" - that creates "classism", a false superiority/inferiority thing, like: "who is better than who".....just another way to classify myself in a way to feel that i am 'better than' another person. I don't play that & could not care LESS about it.

A man who is hardworking, responsible, loving, and caring (OK and hot, too!) [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70377-loveeyes.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] is what matters to me, coulnd't give a hoot about what type a job they do, as long as whatever they do -- that they do it with focus, responsibility, & ambition. Don't care how much formal education someone has, regardless of whether it is more or less than me, I don't compare those things about people; that's superficial and unimportant (to me anyway). Some people have all the money and advantages in the world, the best 'formal' education money can buy - and them dumb as a bag of rocks and no amount a education can improve that. Others have loads of natural intelligence, but not much formal schooling - and them can do anyting them want in this world, degree or not. I coulnd't care which it is, as long as they are naturally bright & intelligent. I know quite a few very well-educated men who chose to go into construction cause they prefer the work vibe and lifestyle, and dem with university and graduate school degrees too - not to mention the electricians, who must be of above-average intelligence to do their jobs and be certified - otherwise the building go blow up when yuh flip the switch fi turn on the lights. That's a very complex field once you are up at the "master" certificaitons....so don't nobody go makin too much assumptions bout construction and them type a jobs being on a "lower level". [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70388-shameonyou.gif[/img]

so-called "blue collar" folks are less stoosh, less uptight, DEFINITELY less concerned about the superficial things like appearance, obtaining fancy cars, houses, designer clothes, jewelry - all that stuff is meaningless to me. A blue-collar guy is much more "real" and down to earth. Gimme a carpenter or a plumber any day in him jeans and boots, who leaves his work at work, and comes home stress-free at 4 PM, done for the day. Y'all can keep the lawyers and doctors whe workin dem 28 hours, 8 days a week, late at dem office every night..... have fun keepin up with the Joneses. We'll be out back barbecuin on the deck & sprayin the kids with the hose [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

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I think what you're seeing is a sort of divide between the younger, college educated females vs. the older women most of which never got as highly educated. My mother for example, a blue collar man is on her level(as long as he is intelligent).

It's not looking down one's nose at,but like another poster said. You always want someone at your level. I don't expect any college educated guy to go look for a teenage mom, high school drop out working at McD's.

Yes, I work in 'diverse' settings and know for a fact other races of women that are highly educated and work in corporate america would never date blue-collar men, unless they were with them before moving up in education and work rank.

Some of you ones who are older may not understand but there are indeed enough professional, white collar black males to go around for us black females with ambition.

This generation have alot of college educated, professional(lawyer, doctor,ec) blacks, no need for people to 'date down'!

Just like most blue collar or non corparate women couldn't relate with a lawyer or doctor, a lawyer or doctor or engineer could not really relate with a blue collar woman.

**7777** · 09-26-2006, 09:21 PM

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Wat mi noytissing more an more is dat di problem nuh reely lie widd di edumicated oomenz but widd di unedumicated menz dem whe feel intimidaytid and insecure. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

As soon as dem hear yuh talk a certain way bout certain tings, dem stawt drap wurds an mek comments bout tappanaris dis and dat. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70400-talktohand.gif[/img]

Cho, mi nuh waan nuhbady whe haffi alwayz waahfi compete and always a try fi trip yuh up wenn demma watch Jepoardy. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70400-talktohand.gif[/img] Mi tyad fi a chry qualify an justify widd di insecure man dem, suh mi juss guh straight fi di souljah dem whe have dem degree from di school of Hawd Knocks an nuh feel threatened by no bady. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]drop it like it hot.. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70458-applaud.gif[/img]

**MrsBlue** · 09-26-2006, 09:28 PM

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I think what you're seeing is a sort of divide between the younger, college educated females vs. the older women most of which never got as highly educated. My mother for example, a blue collar man is on her level(as long as he is intelligent).

It's not looking down one's nose at,but like another poster said. You always want someone at your level. I don't expect any college educated guy to go look for a teenage mom, high school drop out working at McD's.

Yes, I work in 'diverse' settings and know for a fact other races of women that are highly educated and work in corporate america would never date blue-collar men, unless they were with them before moving up in education and work rank.

Some of you ones who are older may not understand but there are indeed enough professional, white collar black males to go around for us black females with ambition.

This generation have alot of college educated, professional(lawyer, doctor,ec) blacks, no need for people to 'date down'!

Just like most blue collar or non corparate women couldn't relate with a lawyer or doctor, a lawyer or doctor or engineer could not really relate with a blue collar woman.

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<font color="blue">Why is it that almost every time you post I find myself holding my forehead and shaking my head?

You've just insulted a whole group of women by stating that most older women do not have college educations. I don't know what you consider "older" but you're going to have to go look up stats and come back.

In stating that you don't expect a college educated man to go for a teenage mom, high school dropout working at McDonalds, you've changed the variables to suit your argument. No one ever mentioned a college educated woman going looking for a teenage boy working in a fast food restaurant. Now, if you stated that you would not expect a college educated man to date a woman bus driver, that would be comparable.

Not sure what the dating habits of women of other races have to do with this, so I won't speak to that point.

I'm sure that professional women are aware that there are plenty of professional men to go around, I think the point being made is that some women either prefer a man that is NOT a doctor/lawyer/CEO or don't look at a man's career but at his personality and intelligence when choosing who to date.

Your whole comment about "dating down" is insulting to everyone, including your blue collar parents. What you're saying in that statement is that someone with a professional career is above someone with a blue collar career. Are you really that much of a snob? Is that what boarding school did for you? What exactly do you do in your career? Do you look down on your parents because of it? </font>

**niceniss** · 09-26-2006, 09:44 PM

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White, Asian and other groups of women with higher education or that are successful would never look at a guy that wasn't at their level, why should we be expected to.

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this is not always true. ..

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I take it you speak for all white and Asian women then? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70456-eyebrows.gif[/img]

**niceniss** · 09-26-2006, 09:48 PM

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Wat mi noytissing more an more is dat di problem nuh reely lie widd di edumicated oomenz but widd di unedumicated menz dem whe feel intimidaytid and insecure. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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check out di odda chread whey a fella a project him insecurities. wuss dan dat, annedda bawl out bout ongle a certain percentage a black woman go college/Uni (even though him nain badda mention dat it still higher dan di man dem).
You know me used to always hear ppl talk say when ooman advance some man get insecure, but me did always think say a myth? fawt!

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