Ask the unbeliever

[mountaingal]

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Originally posted by servant:
[qb] Where did life on earth come from ? [/qb]

who knows?!!! the theory of evolution sounds reasonable to me. i love comparing the human structure with animal and bird structure and seeing the similarities and differences. ultimately, the question of where life originated doesn't matter that much to me, it's what i do with life as it is now that's more meaningful to me.

[RollinCalf]

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Well CG and ephra, it seems we have gone off on how to define the word "miracle" so maybe I should have been more precise.

There is no question that many things that happen, including what happened to this 71 year old, are "amazing". For that matter, every morning when the sun risies, it is "amazing". But that is not what I am dealing with.

I am dealing with the fellow whose prostate cancer "miraculously" went away. Did it do so because of prayers and/or divine intervention ?

That is what I am dealing with. That is the context in which I am using the word "miracle". That is the only issue that I am addressing because that is what CEW asked about.

[Ephratahe]

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Rc,

I think I got you. Gotta run, but enjoy your week-end.

[Fledgist]

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Originally posted by servant:
[qb] Where did life on earth come from ? [/qb]

Chemical processes.

Perhaps you could tell us where this god you believe in comes from.

[DC]

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Okay, I thought I was through but I guess not.. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Just for clarification:

Are you all saying that a scientist who can find no plausible scientifical explanation for an event, and then acknowledges the limitations of emipirical explanations and believes that there is a truth that transcends them, ceases to be a scientist(one whose life is still dedicated to the scietific method/reasoning))?

Do you think its possible to be both? A religionist and a scientist?
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[coffeegyal]

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Originally posted by RollinCalf:
[qb] Well CG and ephra, it seems we have gone off on how to define the word "miracle" so maybe I should have been more precise.

There is no question that many things that happen, including what happened to this 71 year old, are "amazing". For that matter, every morning when the sun risies, it is "amazing". But that is not what I am dealing with.

I am dealing with the fellow whose prostate cancer "miraculously" went away. Did it do so because of prayers and/or divine intervention ?

That is what I am dealing with. That is the context in which I am using the word "miracle". That is the only issue that I am addressing because that is what CEW asked about. [/qb]

I do get what you mean, RC. I was just trying to approach it with a different perspective on miracles. I don't think that such healings are the result of one single, all-powerful being. I don't think of miracles as having much to do with divinity, per se. But, because this life is full of wonders, I can see why one might be tempted to believe an external force is responsible. Even with a scientific explanation, many people want something bigger, greater, more purposeful. Know what I mean?

[RollinCalf]

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"Even with a scientific explanation, many people want something bigger, greater, more purposeful. Know what I mean?"

Absolutely. No question about it, and that is why God is also known as "the Father". A term that we all associate with "something bigger, greater, more purposeful" than ourselves..........when we were children at any rate.

Which brings me to the term "children" of God.

But I digress.

[Wahalla]

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Originally posted by Fledgist:
[qb]

Originally posted by servant:
[qb] Where did life on earth come from ? [/qb]

Chemical processes.

Perhaps you could tell us where this god you believe in comes from. [/qb]

Mythical processes... Ideas by Political Theorists, Sociologist and other manner of sanfiman!

[Fledgist]

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Originally posted by Wahalla:
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Originally posted by Fledgist:
[qb]

Originally posted by servant:
[qb] Where did life on earth come from ? [/qb]

Chemical processes.

Perhaps you could tell us where this god you believe in comes from. [/qb]

Mythical processes... Ideas by Political Theorists, Sociologist and other manner of sanfiman! [/qb]

LOL!! Depends on which political theorists, sociologists, or other samfiemen/women one reads.

[accepted77]

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Originally posted by Wahalla:
[qb]

Originally posted by Fledgist:
[qb]

Originally posted by servant:
[qb] Where did life on earth come from ? [/qb]

Chemical processes.

Perhaps you could tell us where this god you believe in comes from. [/qb]

Mythical processes... Ideas by Political Theorists, Sociologist and other manner of sanfiman! [/qb]

Wahalla,

Wasn't it the Political Theorist, Philosophers, and other Samfie men who created the Mythical processes which in turn created chemical processes ideas such as evolution, the official record of the fossils showed that the power produces the processes in other words the analyst must have something to analyse that was there before the analyst to call it a process, isn't that what discovery is about?

[servant]

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Accepted, I believe that the fossil record actually contains "Political Theorists, Philosophers, Social Scientists and other Samfie men".

[accepted77]

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Servant,
Well said.
However you must phrase it as a question.

[Fledgist]

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Originally posted by servant:
[qb] Accepted, I believe that the fossil record actually contains "Political Theorists, Philosophers, Social Scientists and other Samfie men". [/qb]

How interesting.