manee peeps use selassie fii represent da symbolic blakk god. still wen wii studee selassie strang blakk man like garvey bunn fiyah pon selassie lack aff identification widd blakk peeps
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aye sah...yu wan jy to come bun 20 different kinda fyah pan yu..umm? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img] </div></div>
mek dat 21.....
more fire!!
here we go again...caught up in skin shade...does he forget that black-skinned garvey was deported from the u.s. & convicted of 'crimes' & was not successful in jamaica...
light, dark, blah blah blah...
the fact remains king selassie is the founding father of modern african unity & ghana used the red, green & gold in honor of ethiopia & also why they headquartered the organization of african unity in ethiopia...also the burning spear jomo kenyatta was another african unity forefather inspired be selassie...
not to mention a young freedom fighter who went to ethiopia & got blessed by the rod of selassie & later became an icon himself--nelson mandela...
nat blakk enough...
aye sah
nyabinghi order says death to black & white opressors....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">manee peeps use selassie fii represent da symbolic blakk god. still wen wii studee selassie strang blakk man like garvey bunn fiyah pon selassie lack aff identification widd blakk peeps
soo mii ask oonoo wass selassie blakk enuff? </div></div>
Just like Bob Marley he had the right hue to be promoted in a white dominated market thus making a name for himself as Ras Tafari the soon to be annointed King of Kings, Lion Of Judah.
All taken from scripts in the already written bible.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">manee peeps use selassie fii represent da symbolic blakk god. still wen wii studee selassie strang blakk man like garvey bunn fiyah pon selassie lack aff identification widd blakk peeps
soo mii ask oonoo wass selassie blakk enuff? </div></div>
actually at one time Ethiopians were by definition Caucasion...mi no know if it still stands in the C21st....but di aquiline nose and straight hair had dem in di ranking back in di days....serious ting
is Blu chatting bout de way he looks (looking at the example he used.."lack of identication....") or is politics.. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is Blu chatting bout de way he looks (looking at the example he used.."lack of identication....") or is politics.. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>
mi really no figga out whe Blu a seh, mi juss a dip mi beak eena him wata [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif[/img]
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">manee peeps use selassie fii represent da symbolic blakk god. still wen wii studee selassie strang blakk man like garvey bunn fiyah pon selassie lack aff identification widd blakk peeps
soo mii ask oonoo wass selassie blakk enuff? </div></div>
actually at one time Ethiopians were by definition Caucasion...mi no know if it still stands in the C21st....but di aquiline nose and straight hair had dem in di ranking back in di days....serious ting </div></div>
don't tell me you still buy that....i know you know better...the white scholars who started that fallacy simply did so to take ancient egypt & nubia out of the black race to justify their racism that said blacks were inferior & incapable of civilization...take another look at the egyptians' monuments & the sphinx & see if they are caucasian...straight nose & curly hair doesn't make you 'caucasian' as i have several family memebers with either or both traits...& they've never been called caucasian...
one time those same 'scientists' said west african blacks were barely human...yep classified us that way...you still believe that one too?
black skinned wooly hair caucasians from africa...good one;
ethiopians, eritreans & somalis are still africans (a.k.a. blacks);
dem cyaa fool big man again
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is Blu chatting bout de way he looks (looking at the example he used.."lack of identication....") or is politics.. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>
he's using garvey's premise...
i think the best i've ever seen this subject tackled was in j.a. rogers's (a yardie) book 'world's great men of color'...
he touched on the garvey/selassie thing...he was a great admirer of garvey but even more so of selassie...
he was a lifelong friend of the emperor & clarified many misconceptions that people had...
garvey never ran a government therefore his politics could be a little more radical...selassie had to effect change on the low without big racial statements but both were fighting for the same thing...
it's for i and i the children to reconcile the works of these great men
"Editorial by Marcus Garvey in the Black Man - London, March/April 1937
THE FAILURE OF HAILE SELASSIE AS EMPEROR
When the facts of history are written Haile Selassie of Abyssinia will go down as a great coward who ran away from his country to save his skin and left the millions of his countrymen to struggle through a terrible war that he brought upon them because of his political ignorance and his racial disloyalty.
It is a pity that a man of the limited intellectual calibre and weak political character like Haile Selassie became Emperor of Abyssinia at so crucial a time in the political history of the world. Unfortunately, Abyssinia lost the controlling influence of a political personality of patriotic racial character like the late Menelik, whose loyalty to his race and devotion to his country excelled all his other qualities, to the extent that he was able to use that very strength to continuously safeguard the interests of the Ethiopian Empire. What he did so well to preserve, a cringing, white slave hero worshipper, visionless and disloyal to his country, threw away. This is the impression the serious minded political student forms of the conduct of the ex-Emperor of Abyssinia.
EVERY NEGRO ASHAMED
Every Negro who is proud of his race must be ashamed of the way in which Haile Selassie surrendered himself to the white wolves of Europe. These statements may be considered very severe, and in fact, they are. We could have been otherwise apologetic and sympathetic, but that would have been only if we were dealing with a Coptic Priest or a Religious Monk and not a[n] Emperor who held and presided over the political trust of twelve million people of his own country, and the political destiny of the entire Negro race. This little misguided Emperor could not realise that he held in his hands the political trust of the hundreds of millions of Negroes of the world, men and women, who were looking up toward the firm establishment of political sovereignty, and that Ethiopia, like Liberia and Haiti were to them prizes of glory to be perpetuated and strengthened in the maintenance of the dignity of that black race that other men have claimed to be incompetent, inferior and unworthy, which every black man must disprove. "
"LOOKED WITH HOPE
When the war started in Abyssinia all Negro nationalists looked with hope to Haile Selassie. They spoke for him, they prayed for him, they sung for him, they did everything to hold up his hands, as Aaron did for Moses; but whilst the Negro peoples of the world were praying for the success of Abyssinia this little Emperor was undermining the fabric of his own kingdom by playing the fool with white men, having them advising him[,] having them telling him what to do, how to surrender, how to call off the successful thrusts of his Rases against the Italian invaders. Yes, they were telling him how to prepare his flight, and like an imbecilic child he followed every advice and then ultimately ran away from his country to England, leaving his people to be massacred by the Italians, and leaving the serious white world to laugh at every Negro and repeat the charge and snare - "he is incompetent," "we told you so." Indeed Haile Selassie has proved the incompetence of the Negro for political authority, but thank God there are Negroes who realise that Haile Selassie did not represent the truest qualities of the Negro race. How could he, when he wanted to play white? how could he, when he surrounded himself with white influence? how could he, when in a modem world, and in a progressive civilization, he preferred a slave State of black men than a free democratic country where the black citizens could rise to the same opportunities as white citizens in their democracies?
TELL THE TRUTH
The truth must be told so that the white world will realise that it was not the pride of the Negro that surrendered in Abyssinia. It was the disloyalty of a single man who was too silly to take pride in his race, who played such a game as to disgrace the political integrity of a noble people. The Negroes of Abyssinia and of the world are satisfied however that Abyssinia was not conquered by Italy and the European forces of Mussolini. Abyssinia was only conquered by the black levies of Italy. The Askaris have really been the victors in Abyssinia. [Rodolfo] Graziani only marched into Addis Ababa after he had made sure of the advanced guard of the Askaris. Every battle that the Italians won in Abyssinia resulted from the advanced charge of the Askaris. It was black men fighting black men, and this was made possible in Abyssinia because the regime of Haile Selassie had given a bad taste to the mouth, not only of the blacks of Abyssinia but of those of the surrounding territories. They felt that they had a cause against the Amharic white loving Emperor who liked to chain and flog black men, and whose brutality to them gave Mussolini the cause to fool the world that he was bestowing a blessing upon the people of Abyssinia by freeing them. "
NO SLAVES
It was a piece of impertinence to suggest that black men should be held as slaves. We must admit that we glorified Haile Selassie when the war started, fought his battles to win international support, but we ever felt deep down in our hearts that he was a slave master. We had hoped that if Abyssinia had won that we would have forced the Government of Abyssinia to free the black whom they held as slaves. We would have preferred this than seeing the country taken by Mussolini or any European power; but now that the country is temporarily lost and the Emperor has cowardly exiled himself, the truth must be told.
"WHAT RIGHT HAS HE?
The future freedom of Abyssinia must be built upon the highest principles of democracy. That is why it is preferable for the Abyssinian Negroes and the Negroes of the world to work for the restoration and freedom of the country without the assistance of Haile Selassie, because at best he is but a slave master. The Negroes of the Western World whose forefathers suffered for three hundred years under the terrors of slavery ought to be able to appreciate what freedom means. Surely they cannot feel justified in supporting any system that would hold their brothers in slavery in another country whilst they are enjoying the benefits of freedom elsewhere. The Africans who are free can also appreciate the position of slaves in Abyssinia. What right has the Emperor to keep slaves when all the democratic sections of the world were free, when men had the right to live, to develop, to expand, to enjoy all the benefits of human liberty[?]
The Emperor who has been exiled in Europe must have seen the civilization of Europe. In England where he lives he sees that men are not flogged and chained and kicked because of their colour or because of their condition, but where true human liberty guarantees to every man the happiest pursuit he can bring to himself. It has been reported that he is leaving England for Syria, where a large number of Abyssinian refugees are living. There is an interpretation that the decision to leave England and to live among "his people?" in Syria is to perpetuate his divine majesty in the presence of that king worship that he doesn't get in England, where men look at others as equals and not as masters by divine right. In truth, the Emperor is out of place in democratic England. He wants to be once more in the environment of the feudal Monarch who looks down upon his slaves and serfs with contempt. Except he changes the attitude of thinking himself better than the Negro who constitutes the larger number of Ethiopia and profit by the experience he has gained, he should not be a fit person to be in authority in the very country in which he was born. After all, Haile Selassie is just an ordinary man like any other human being. What right has he to hold men as slaves? It is only the misfortune of the slaves that causes him to be a slave master. Negroes who have the dignity of their race at heart resent the impertinence of anyone holding the blacks as slaves. Haile Selassie ought to realise this and abolish his foolish dream of being an Emperor of slaves and serfs and try to be an Emperor of noble men, and for him to be that he must himself be the noblest of them all. He hasn't proved his nobility in the war between Italy and Abyssinia. Ras Desta proved to be the Lord, the Nobleman of Ethiopia whilst Halle Selassie proved a cringing coward!"
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aye sah...yu wan jy to come bun 20 different kinda fyah pan yu..umm? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img] </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aye sah...yu wan jy to come bun 20 different kinda fyah pan yu..umm? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img] </div></div>
mek dat 21.....
more fire!!
here we go again...caught up in skin shade...does he forget that black-skinned garvey was deported from the u.s. & convicted of 'crimes' & was not successful in jamaica...
light, dark, blah blah blah...
the fact remains king selassie is the founding father of modern african unity & ghana used the red, green & gold in honor of ethiopia & also why they headquartered the organization of african unity in ethiopia...also the burning spear jomo kenyatta was another african unity forefather inspired be selassie...
not to mention a young freedom fighter who went to ethiopia & got blessed by the rod of selassie & later became an icon himself--nelson mandela...
nat blakk enough...
aye sah
nyabinghi order says death to black & white opressors....
</div></div>
canvicted aff trump upp charges inspired by wannabee mzungu, garvey cawl dem blakk-whites
sah garvey more respected ann revered inn afrikka dan selassie. mandela wass more inspired bye garvey
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