miseducating black/negro

[blugiant]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by JamaicaDaye:
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Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] I remember this passage vividly. I used it in my thesis for graduation.

When discussing it in class, several arguments were presented.

Woodson's statement can be seen as the elitest's 'basis' for integration. Why should the educated, accomplished, talented 10th be subjected to the dirty neighborhoods of the Black community, the unequipped schools, the backwards/backwoods churches, etc.

NOTE - I am not saying this is my view, just one presented during discussion.

My professor would often say that integration hurt the Black community in so many ways. It hurt the psyche of Black people b/c w/in their community, they had power, pride, strength in numbers, made their own laws, etc. It hurt Black business b/c Black-owned mom & pop stores could no longer compete w/the prices and social allure 'big city' chains.

Any thoughts??? [/qb]

your professor should lose his job. he doesn't belong in a classroom in the capacity as a teacher...

methinks. [/qb]

da prafessar a doo him job fi facilitate a discussion

[babydoll]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] There's no denying that integrations had some negative effects on the Black community. The numbers prove it. We looked at data showing the number of Black-owned businesses before and after gov. regulated integration and there was a drastic difference.

I'm not saying integration wasn't necessary - not saying that at all.

It's just like when Walmart opens in a small town. There are some positives and some negatives. [/qb]

I agree w/you....

When I came here, my mother was a single/divorced woman w/ 4 children. She went on section 8 to afford a place to live. We lived in an area that had one entrance in with the same way out.

When you sit and talk to these people, you wonder what the HECK went wrong.... if the kids wanted to go to the pool, it was about 5 miles away....the place was surrounded by warehouses and closet 'nice' neighborhood was a few miles away.

and you wonder.... ayesah...

[JamaicaDaye]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] There's no denying that integrations had some negative effects on the Black community. The numbers prove it. We looked at data showing the number of Black-owned businesses before and after gov. regulated integration and there was a drastic difference.

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proven. your 'prof' has misled you my dear girl.

myopic sights.
black customers dont see colour when the are thinking about how to make their money work for them. I know I dont.
what the former black businesses must do is see this as an upportunity to expand their customer base to the wider society that is now presented to them. It might be dificult at first but it will pay off in the long run.

[JamaicaDaye]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] There's no denying that integrations had some negative effects on the Black community. The numbers prove it. We looked at data showing the number of Black-owned businesses before and after gov. regulated integration and there was a drastic difference.

[/qb]

proven. your 'prof' has misled you my dear girl.

myopic sights.
black customers dont see colour when the are thinking about how to make their money work for them. I know I dont.
what the former black businesses must do is see this as an upportunity to expand their customer base to the wider society that is now presented to them. It might be dificult at first but it will pay off in the long run.

[blugiant]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] I remember this passage vividly. I used it in my thesis for graduation.

When discussing it in class, several arguments were presented.

Woodson's statement can be seen as the elitest's 'basis' for integration. Why should the educated, accomplished, talented 10th be subjected to the dirty neighborhoods of the Black community, the unequipped schools, the backwards/backwoods churches, etc.

NOTE - I am not saying this is my view, just one presented during discussion.

My professor would often say that integration hurt the Black community in so many ways. It hurt the psyche of Black people b/c w/in their community, they had power, pride, strength in numbers, made their own laws, etc. It hurt Black business b/c Black-owned mom & pop stores could no longer compete w/the prices and social allure 'big city' chains.

Any thoughts??? [/qb]

dat a two a bigg disscussion iff mi fi goo into dat. macolm x go into itt when him chat bout da too deffarent thinkin pon bllk freedom. also garvey versus dubois

[JamaicaDaye]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by LadyZ:
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Originally posted by JamaicaDaye:
[qb]

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] I remember this passage vividly. I used it in my thesis for graduation.

When discussing it in class, several arguments were presented.

Woodson's statement can be seen as the elitest's 'basis' for integration. Why should the educated, accomplished, talented 10th be subjected to the dirty neighborhoods of the Black community, the unequipped schools, the backwards/backwoods churches, etc.

NOTE - I am not saying this is my view, just one presented during discussion.

My professor would often say that integration hurt the Black community in so many ways. It hurt the psyche of Black people b/c w/in their community, they had power, pride, strength in numbers, made their own laws, etc. It hurt Black business b/c Black-owned mom & pop stores could no longer compete w/the prices and social allure 'big city' chains.

Any thoughts??? [/qb]

your professor should lose his job. he doesn't belong in a classroom in the capacity as a teacher...

methinks. [/qb]

but the man mek sense though [/qb]

wha kinda sence?

him mek sence to who cyaan think logically or fi demself.
if i was him boss i woulda fire him baxide.

a dem kinda people deh try fi mek people limit demself and not REACH FI DI SKY

[NapiHead327]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by blugiant:
[qb]

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] I remember this passage vividly. I used it in my thesis for graduation.

When discussing it in class, several arguments were presented.

Woodson's statement can be seen as the elitest's 'basis' for integration. Why should the educated, accomplished, talented 10th be subjected to the dirty neighborhoods of the Black community, the unequipped schools, the backwards/backwoods churches, etc.

NOTE - I am not saying this is my view, just one presented during discussion.

My professor would often say that integration hurt the Black community in so many ways. It hurt the psyche of Black people b/c w/in their community, they had power, pride, strength in numbers, made their own laws, etc. It hurt Black business b/c Black-owned mom & pop stores could no longer compete w/the prices and social allure 'big city' chains.

Any thoughts??? [/qb]

dat a two a bigg disscussion iff mi fi goo into dat. macolm x go into itt when him chat bout da too deffarent thinkin pon bllk freedom. also garvey versus dubois [/qb]

Don't forget Booker T. Washington vs. Dubois

[JesusDread]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by babydoll:
[qb] wow...I have never heard that the "negro is taught to be unclean" that is new to me. [/qb]

Systematic programming at work. The use of visual depictions of clean, almost sterile white environments versus run down dusty black ones, We see it on TV every day of our lives. In magazines and billboards etc. Plus, when you go into white neighbourhoods, it's all clean and well kept, the houses are nice and the streets have concrete curbs and pristine roads. In many black communities, it is the opposite. Run down houses and chattel houses they call section eight or projects, basically warehousing. The streets are unkempt and many have dirt sidewalks and potholed filled streets.

I could go on but you must have gotten the picture by now. Black neighborhoods are purposely neglected and underfunded.

[NapiHead327]

Re: miseducating black/negro

I refuse to believe in the 'unclean' thing. 'Americans' didn't believe in taking regular baths until the early 1900s. Ancient Africa's belief in cleanliness is well documented.

[BlessedLadyOfZion]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by JamaicaDaye:
[qb] wha kinda sence?

him mek sence to who cyaan think logically or fi demself.
if i was him boss i woulda fire him baxide.

a dem kinda people deh try fi mek people limit demself and not REACH FI DI SKY [/qb]

Regardless of whether u or other smart ppl like yuhself don't think that way..there r plenty more ppl wid dat similar mentality

All mi seh was de man mek sense..it nuh mek it right..but he makes sense...an is not lie him telling.

[JamaicaDaye]

Re: miseducating black/negro

I give up.

Have it your way.

[blugiant]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by JamaicaDaye:
[qb] Have it your way. [/qb]

so wah yu change yu name to burga king [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[JamaicaDaye]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by blugiant:
[qb]

Originally posted by JamaicaDaye:
[qb] Have it your way. [/qb]

so wah yu change yu name to burga king [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [/qb]

and u know i was sure it was a fastfood slogan, but i thought kfc

[blugiant]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] There's no denying that integrations had some negative effects on the Black community. The numbers prove it. We looked at data showing the number of Black-owned businesses before and after gov. regulated integration and there was a drastic difference.

I'm not saying integration wasn't necessary - not saying that at all.

It's just like when Walmart opens in a small town. There are some positives and some negatives. [/qb]

malcolm x "It is not a case of our people...wanting either separation or integration. The use of these words actually clouds the real picture. The 22 million Afro-Americans don't seek either separation or integration. They seek recognition and respect as human beings."

"We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for integration, nor are we fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition...for the right to live as free humans in this society."

[blugiant]

Re: miseducating black/negro

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb]

Originally posted by blugiant:
[qb]

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] I remember this passage vividly. I used it in my thesis for graduation.

When discussing it in class, several arguments were presented.

Woodson's statement can be seen as the elitest's 'basis' for integration. Why should the educated, accomplished, talented 10th be subjected to the dirty neighborhoods of the Black community, the unequipped schools, the backwards/backwoods churches, etc.

NOTE - I am not saying this is my view, just one presented during discussion.

My professor would often say that integration hurt the Black community in so many ways. It hurt the psyche of Black people b/c w/in their community, they had power, pride, strength in numbers, made their own laws, etc. It hurt Black business b/c Black-owned mom & pop stores could no longer compete w/the prices and social allure 'big city' chains.

Any thoughts??? [/qb]

dat a two a bigg disscussion iff mi fi goo into dat. macolm x go into itt when him chat bout da too deffarent thinkin pon bllk freedom. also garvey versus dubois [/qb]

Don't forget Booker T. Washington vs. Dubois [/qb]

booket t garvey spiritual mentor. no wonda dubois had prablem wid dem too dark skinned bllk men