1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

[Fledgist]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Trelli:
[qb] are you really a member of the same species?
funny, I was thinking you were some sort of alien... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [/qb]

How nice for you to actually have a thought. Was it a difficult experience?

[Fledgist]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Tim:
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Originally posted by Fledgist:
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Originally posted by Tim:
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Originally posted by Fledgist:
No Christian has ever committed a crime. If they do, they're immediately defined as 'not true Christians'. [/qb]

Wrong again! They are classified as human. [/qb]

Anything but Christian. Frankly, given the crimes of Christianity, I am deeply ashamed to be a member of the same species. [/qb]

What are you saying then? Surely you are not claiming to be perfect? Are you saying that an atheist pedophile is somehow better than a Christian pedophile? Oh the crimes that atheists commit because they believe that there is no one to answer to! (Sorry, I could not resist turning your reasoning around to exploit its weakness.) BTW Christianity cannot commit crimes only people can. Faith is not a physical being. [/QB]

Please identify the organisation to which all atheists belong.

I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

Until those crimes are acknowledged, just punishment administered, and just compensation received, as far as I'm concerned you are inhuman.

I certainly feel a deep shame that I am a member of the same species as a being like you.

[Trelli]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Fledgist:
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Originally posted by Trelli:
[qb] are you really a member of the same species?
funny, I was thinking you were some sort of alien... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [/qb]

How nice for you to actually have a thought. Was it a difficult experience? [/qb]

I should be asking that questian of you but since you have produce no evidence of a single thought i cannot.

[Trelli]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Fledgist:


I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

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listen to this guy!

this is the exact person who is yet to understand that marriage is a privilege and not a right! a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black!


btw how is it you have no problem being a member of the same species with these homosexuals(who call themselves priests) who are busy molesting people's male children?
Is their pretence at religion(to greedily commit their crimes) your only concern?

[Fledgist]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Trelli:
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Originally posted by Fledgist:
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Originally posted by Trelli:
[qb] are you really a member of the same species?
funny, I was thinking you were some sort of alien... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [/qb]

How nice for you to actually have a thought. Was it a difficult experience? [/qb]

I should be asking that questian of you but since you have produce no evidence of a single thought i cannot. [/qb]

You're free to read my published work, then come back and discuss it.

[Fledgist]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Trelli:
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Originally posted by Fledgist:


I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

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listen to this guy!

this is the exact person who is yet to understand that marriage is a privilege and not a right! a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black!

{Fledgist: Ah, yes, this from the expert on marriage who chokes up whenever asked about her experience. Do tell.}


btw how is it you have no problem being a member of the same species with these homosexuals(who call themselves priests) who are busy molesting people's male children?
Is their pretence at religion(to greedily commit their crimes) your only concern? [/QB]

How do you know it's a pretence? It looks quite genuine to me. You might want to try reading what i wrote, rather than jumping all over what you believe I wrote.

[ohliz]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

btw how is it you have no problem being a member of the same species with these homosexuals(who call themselves priests) who are busy molesting people's male children?



Probably the same we way we all deal with being members of the same species as heterosexual men that are busy abusing people's children.

I'm pretty sure I don't have a choice about being a member of the human species....

[britisha]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Fledgist:
Please identify the organisation to which all atheists belong.

I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

Until those crimes are acknowledged, just punishment administered, and just compensation received, as far as I'm concerned you are inhuman.

I certainly feel a deep shame that I am a member of the same species as a being like you.

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Mek mi ask you something Fledgist, if just punishment is administered, crimes acknowledged etc., then Tim will be human? Just what are you saying, that these criteria will never be fulfilled? To base one's humanity on these criteria diminishes your argument immensely...argumentum ad hominem..

Moreover, again, the Roman Catholic church has openly and ashamedly acknowledged many of these crimes..they commissioned this study, how much more do you want? If you are talking about something else, then come right out and say it..Compensation has been made to some of these unfortunate victims to the extent that some diocese are going bankrupt.

Are you saying that an atheist pedophile is somehow better than a Christian pedophile? Oh the crimes that atheists commit because they believe that there is no one to answer to!

Whether committed in the name of atheism or not there are many bastards among atheists as well..let's give Jack his jacket.

Out again.

[wonbyone]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Fledgist:
[Please identify the organisation to which all atheists belong.

I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

Until those crimes are acknowledged, just punishment administered, and just compensation received, as far as I'm concerned you are inhuman.

I certainly feel a deep shame that I am a member of the same species as a being like you. [/QB]

Christianity is not an "organization" and neither is atheism. Why do you think that they are?

You seem to think that an atheist cannot commit crimes. How do you come to such an illogical conclusion? Seems to me that "you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept"...that crimes are committed by all. Seems to me that means that you have a problem. How does that go...I'm OK, you're OK is good and I'm OK and you are not is mental imbalance? No wonder you feel such shame! I am not ashamed to be human...unlike you.

[wonbyone]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

BTW Fledge, you keep crowing about "my published works"...link us up and we will judge whether or not it makes any more sence then anything that you publish here.

[Diplomat]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by britisha:

Originally posted by Fledgist:
Please identify the organisation to which all atheists belong.

I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

Until those crimes are acknowledged, just punishment administered, and just compensation received, as far as I'm concerned you are inhuman.

I certainly feel a deep shame that I am a member of the same species as a being like you.

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Mek mi ask you something Fledgist, if just punishment is administered, crimes acknowledged etc., then Tim will be human? Just what are you saying, that these criteria will never be fulfilled? To base one's humanity on these criteria diminishes your argument immensely...argumentum ad hominem..

Moreover, again, the Roman Catholic church has openly and ashamedly acknowledged many of these crimes..they commissioned this study, how much more do you want? If you are talking about something else, then come right out and say it..Compensation has been made to some of these unfortunate victims to the extent that some diocese are going bankrupt.

Are you saying that an atheist pedophile is somehow better than a Christian pedophile? Oh the crimes that atheists commit because they believe that there is no one to answer to!

Whether committed in the name of atheism or not there are many bastards among atheists as well..let's give Jack his jacket.

Agreed on all points.

[Trelli]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Tim:
[qb] BTW Fledge, you keep crowing about "my published works"...link us up and we will judge whether or not it makes any more sence then anything that you publish here. [/qb]

and dont forget that he's a "professor"(perhaps the nutty one [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ).

[Fledgist]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by CEW:
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Originally posted by britisha:

Originally posted by Fledgist:
Please identify the organisation to which all atheists belong.

I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

Until those crimes are acknowledged, just punishment administered, and just compensation received, as far as I'm concerned you are inhuman.

I certainly feel a deep shame that I am a member of the same species as a being like you.

[img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Mek mi ask you something Fledgist, if just punishment is administered, crimes acknowledged etc., then Tim will be human? Just what are you saying, that these criteria will never be fulfilled? To base one's humanity on these criteria diminishes your argument immensely...argumentum ad hominem..


{Fledgist: You're mixing up two things. One is my argument, the other is the expression of my feelings. I note a tendency that when crimes are committed in the name of Christianity, such as the forcible Christianisation of enslaved people (or for that matter, justifying their enslavement on the grounds that they would be exposed to Christianity), there is a sudden burst of expression from 'Tim' to the effect that Christianity had nothing to do with it. I find that shameful, disgusting, and dishonest, and I feel a deep shame that a person with such a character and I are members of the same species.}

Moreover, again, the Roman Catholic church has openly and ashamedly acknowledged many of these crimes..they commissioned this study, how much more do you want? If you are talking about something else, then come right out and say it..Compensation has been made to some of these unfortunate victims to the extent that some diocese are going bankrupt.

Are you saying that an atheist pedophile is somehow better than a Christian pedophile? Oh the crimes that atheists commit because they believe that there is no one to answer to!

Whether committed in the name of atheism or not there are many bastards among atheists as well..let's give Jack his jacket.

Agreed on all points. [/qb]

You're saying that people commit crimes *because* they don't believe in a god?

[Fledgist]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Tim:
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Originally posted by Fledgist:
[Please identify the organisation to which all atheists belong.

I'm pointing out -- and you are having a hard time understanding a simple concept -- that Christians refuse to acknowledge the crimes committed by their fellow Christians for and in the name of Christianity.

Until those crimes are acknowledged, just punishment administered, and just compensation received, as far as I'm concerned you are inhuman.

I certainly feel a deep shame that I am a member of the same species as a being like you. [/qb]

Christianity is not an "organization" and neither is atheism. Why do you think that they are?

{Fledgist: The World Council of Churches might disagree with you. so would every Christian church.}

You seem to think that an atheist cannot commit crimes. How do you come to such an illogical conclusion? Seems to me that "you are having a


{Fledgist: I made no such claim.}

hard time understanding a simple concept"...that crimes are committed by all. Seems to me that means that you have a problem. How does that go...I'm OK, you're OK is good and I'm OK and you are not is mental imbalance? No wonder you feel such shame! I am not ashamed to be human...unlike you. [/QB]

I'm ashamed to belong to the same species as you. You might want to ponder why that is.

[Fledgist]

Re: 1 in 25 priests a pedophile!

Originally posted by Tim:
[qb] BTW Fledge, you keep crowing about "my published works"...link us up and we will judge whether or not it makes any more sence then anything that you publish here. [/qb]

The assumption that everything is published on the Internet is rather amusing. You're free to find the journals which have published my work, or the monograph I've had published. Others here, such as 'Servant' who deliberately mischaracterised the last, have had no such difficulty.