Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

[RollinCalf]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Wait minute there Pilot, did I not recall reading that this was all supposed to take place after midnight on December 1999 ? Weren't you and your fundamantalist buddies telling us then to pack it in and wait for the rapture ?

Can't find it now, but as soon as I am able to, I will direct you to a list of the number of times that the end of the world was predicted by those why had the Book of Revelation in one hand and a newspaper in the other.

Oh and one small correction - Turkey is not "the only democracy in the region". Elections are held on a regular basis in Israel.

[PILOT]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Turkey is not "the only democracy in the region". Elections are held on a regular basis in Israel.

If you want to be precise yuh can include Isreal calf man but I was talking about a specific area with the exclusion of Tiny Isreal.

A region of highly concentrated Islamic fundamentalists that stretches from Southern Russia through Afgahistan into Pakistan and Iran and unto Iraq as well as up to Syria.

These are hostile areas and they know not democarcy and possibly based on their religion will never be able to appreciate this hierarchy as against an aristocratic and monarchial rule.

Colonialization experienced much resistance and Globalization is up against it. the internal dynamics of this culture does not permit adaptation to foreign pop culture.

Its a fairly conservative region with lots of rebellion and so a prolonged war is the likely outcome.

As to 1999 and fundamentalist, you are assuming calf man that I allie myself with mainstream teachings. I however take my orders from the word of God and not from any specific outburst by an organisation.

As servants of the master we are ordered that in the last days we should be aware and alerted to all the happenings so that the day of the Lord shall not overtake us. We indeed do not know they day or the hour of his coming but were however told to atleast be observant enough to know when that period begins, for like a storm approaching their are signs in the east or west, among animals, so too the birth phangs of a woman begins with much pain and so we watch and we wait.

The short horn cattle herd is responsible for the woes of the world, people who buy and sell stocks, currencies and bonds, moving their money on a short term basis speculating on peoples welfare.

The financial markets is what is triggering the world to move from guarenteed employee pensions through sets of benefits to a new unstable/turbulent area of where companies just give you your contributions and the individual manages his or her money speculating on where he or she can get the best return. Most people manage these 401 k platform very agressively and all that does is continue the mass stampede of cattle herd rampaging as they look to avoid risk and move their money around like chips on a roulette table.

The faceless stock, bond and currency trader in a world of international mobility is one where deviation from sound principles to gambling on destablising, brutalising swings of teh free market.

I don't think you realise the implication of greed monters who depend on markets for their living, as The Lord said to cain, what have you done, The voice of your brother blood is crying to me from th ground.

It is the beast of the markets, the drive for prosperity, modernization, profitability in todays globalised banking system,that has many fighting over economic growth and material fulfillment while leaving the earth in conflict, where crime and violence is widespread.

The whole world is now seen as one big supermarket, a big market for merchandise.

Privitized companies no longer exist to serve the state and provide jobs they answer to a demanding bunch of beastly men called investors whose main purpose is to rape the earth while accumulating economic gains/profits.

[PILOT]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Just of note it was the Babylonian empire that gave us the banking system as well as mathematics and babylonian sexagesimal system
6-6-6 system
Without this 6-6-6 system banks and financial systems could not calculate present and future value interests. The worlds science and technological capacity would not have been possible without this system.

The Babylonians had an advanced number system, in some ways more advanced than our present system. It was a positional system with base 60 rather than the base 10 of our present system. Now 10 has only two proper divisors, 2 and 5. However 60 has 10 proper divisors so many more numbers have a finite form.

For mathematical and arithmetical purposes they used the Sumerian sexagesimal system of numbers, which featured a useful device of so-called place-value notation that resembles the present-day decimal system. Measures of length, area, capacity, and weight, standardized earlier by the Sumerians, remained in use.

The Babylonians divided the day into 24 hours, each hour into 60 minutes, each minute into 60 seconds. This form of counting has survived for 4000 years.

Rev. Jerry R. Church, founder and director of Prophecy in the News ministry in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, reported that the Sumerians of Noah's time, who lived in what is now southern Iraq, used a sexagesimal system of numerics, which means that their numerical system was based on the number six, instead of ten. He theorized, that since all language had a common base, and civilization's first numbering system was based on six, then a code could be devised to "count the number of the beast." The English alphabet is based on the root value of six: 6" X 2= 1 foot, 6" X 6= 1 yard, 6 "forties" = 1 section, 6 sections X 6= 1 township, 1 township = a 6 square mile area, etc. What he came up with, was an alphanumeric code: A = 6, B = 12, C = 18, D = 24, E = 30, F = 36, etc. Using this code, he discovered that various words, such as "Mark of the Beast," "Computer," and "New York" were equivalent to the numerical value of 666.

[RollinCalf]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Pilot, surely you don't mean the same Jerry Church who said that the Psalms predicted the Great Tribulation would take place between 1988 to 1994 ???

[PILOT]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

yEAH CALF MAN and the disciples thought that the last days was back in bible times, as well as thought that christ was come to bring down the roman government then.

I am not concerned with exact time, the words above had nothing to do with a predication but with the origins of 6-6-6 notation. I can use other sources to confirm this, but then you go do your own resarch since you find this hard to beleive restless calf.

[RollinCalf]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

JR Church is a false prophet. Why are you quoting a false prophet to us ?

"I am not concerned with exact time,"

So why did you post this ? :

"The battle of God and Magog was to occur at the end of the Millenium 2001, 9/11 marked the day and hour that babylon started to fall. Armageddon is the war of Gog and Magog."

Not to mention the image with the time lines ?

[PILOT]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Exact time means we don't know the exact time, the scriptures gives us warning signs thats about it, as a practicing media producer/watchman and a servant living in these times I hold the right as a matter of responsibility to truth and faithfullness to the word of God to assess prophesy and see where we are at.

What I stated above is a matter of information to help guide both myself and friends on this site to the events as they are unfolding since the new millenium and their implications.

Deal with the substance of what has been presented and stop paying attention to one indivuiduals name. All I said about this gentleman that you claim to be a false prophet is that he said that the 6-6-6 system traces from ancient Babylon or present day Iraq which is a fact, he also said that when applied to the alphabet it adds up 666 for new york, computer, and mark of the beast if you think that is so earthshaking to reject all that has been said then be my guest, I am not here to debate with you restless calf. You enjoy riding the beast then continue riding it to your death. If you want to be imprisoned by the global markets and the dymnamics of buying and selling stocks and bonds and currency then giddy up gwaan. This post is one of reflection on the global banking system that has become popular with the advent of globalization and which is soaking up new converts daily.

I have outlined the pitfalls of the system against humanity with evidence and thought it prudent to state the fact that the sexagesimal system exist and is embedded in the financial markets.

*As for image with timelines it shows a graphic of the area of land where the war is now unfolding and which I spoke about above as mesopotania, persian of in B.C. times not a predicted timeline.

Some depend on financial security in times of troubles, Uncertain times, others depend on the TRUTH of God. Some worship financial instruments daily, up and down, spin the dice, to protect their retirement, others depend of the faithfulness of the WORD of God.

[RollinCalf]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Yes Pilot, and I have this tattoo on my forehead too:



By the way, seen any black helicopters over your house lately ?

[PILOT]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Calf man you like to drag on and on like a real restless bull, I nuh have nuh house on this land, I man salvation is all that I have.
Black helicopters even if they flying bout don't frighten mee. Neither do barcodes, for we are responsible for what we do with our minds, if you want to corrupt yours and use your right hand (or "weapon hand") salute your earthly Sovereign Ruler then remain enprisoned in filthy things and leave me out.

[Fledgist]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Originally posted by PILOT:
[qb] Fledglist gwaan worry bout me and my life and whether I will be able to live... it will be able to help you sleep peacefully you hear...


{Fledgist: *Yawn*}


The war at the end of the tribulation, known as Armageddon, is a world war. Revelation tells us that this battle will involve all nations. The war described in Ezekiel includes specific nations that invade Israel. Also, Armageddon is at the climax of the tribulation, while the war described in Ezekiel comes well before then.

The most common identity for Magog is in Central Asia. The Jewish historian Josephus said, "Magog founded the Magogians, called Scythians by the Greeks. Scythians were a nomadic tribe who inhabited the ancient territory from Central Asia across the southern part of ancient Russia." Today this area is inhabited by the former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and possibly northern parts of Afghanistan. All of these nations that make up the land of Magog have one thing in common - Islam. Militant Islam has been on the rise in these countries since the fall of the Soviet Union, when Islam no longer had to be practiced secretly. Radical Islamic groups such as the Islamic Renaissance Party, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, and Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islam are working to reunite central Asian nations and ultimately the entire Muslim world.

It is from this part of the world that a leader will arise to bring together a great coalition of nations that shall be invaded ...
Ezekiel 38:1-6 The word of the Lord came to me; Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him and say: 'This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army - your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops - the many nations with you.'

Ezekiel 38:13 "Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish with all its villages will say to you, 'Have you come to capture spoil? Have you assembled your company to seize plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to capture great spoil?'"

As this invasion develops, a few countries will make lame protest thats what was predicted and it has come to pass. [/qb]

This is nonsense in excelsis. Might we have a proper citation for the quotation from Josephus?

[Fledgist]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Originally posted by RollinCalf:
[qb] Pilot, with all due respect, that is a bunch of hogwash.

{Fledgist: I disagree. No self-respecting hog would go near that.}

There is no question in my mind that the war that is presently being fought in Iraq, is not being done for the benefit of the Iraqis,( many of whom, I might add, have died already and will continue to die before they are "liberated",) but is being fought over its natural resources.

Great Britain has been in the business of "liberating" Third World countries of their natural resources for eons. The US is a relative newcomer to the business so it is with no small amount of irony that the icon of colonialism and her offspring should be involved with this adventure. It makes perfect (historical) sense.

But this has nothing whatsoever with encouraging people to take their money out of banks to "store it up in heaven", whatever that may mean.

The fact of the matter is that without a fiscally sound approach to investing the proceeds of one's hard earned labours for the days when we cannot work, you will become nothing but a burden upon society and your family, who did take the time to pay attention to these matters. In fact I particulary resent having to take care of people like yourself who have just finished chastising me for being somehow involved with Satan when I try to invest and save in an attempt to plan ahead for my retirement. What rubbish.


{Fledgist: I concur.}
The fact of the matter is that Social Security, (or NIS in Jamaica) cannot support you when you are old and is not designed to do so. What you are preaching therefore is dangerous and irresponsible and you should be ashamed of yourself. [/qb]

Unfortunately, this will pass over him like water off a duck's back.

[PILOT]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Be gone evil one you have no honourable place in this message, Satans crumbling Kingdom is coming down. Your Actions within the last several minutes speak louder than your words!

[Fledgist]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Originally posted by RollinCalf:
[qb] Wait minute there Pilot, did I not recall reading that this was all supposed to take place after midnight on December 1999 ? Weren't you and your fundamantalist buddies telling us then to pack it in and wait for the rapture ?

Can't find it now, but as soon as I am able to, I will direct you to a list of the number of times that the end of the world was predicted by those why had the Book of Revelation in one hand and a newspaper in the other.

Oh and one small correction - Turkey is not "the only democracy in the region". Elections are held on a regular basis in Israel. [/qb]

You're leaving out Armenia? (Not to mention Azerbaijan, the embassy of which in London once described the Azeri state as a 'democratic, circular state'.)

[Fledgist]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Originally posted by PILOT:
[qb] Be gone evil one you have no honourable place in this message, Satans crumbling Kingdom is coming down. Your Actions within the last several minutes speak louder than your words! [/qb]

DWL! Could we have this in English please?

[RollinCalf]

Re: Mysterious economic Babylon on in these times...How are you Coping?

Pilot, do you always take yourself so seriously ?