Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

Did you read where the owner of the Gleaner went up to Manley home in the wee hours of the morning and threaten him??
That was what the man said himself in the gleaner too.


tell me something who fund the politicians?

Who have the power to remove any politician with or without the ballot?

you really believe that the Don's don't influence the politicians?
Then if the little illegal dons can influence the politicians,

Why would these eminent lawyers with the strength of cash, weapons, influence over the head of the military.
and foreign support not have more power than the politicians? i am surprised at you Rich.

i know better.
you are just playing Devil's advocate to see who is and who isn't aware of who run things in Jamaica.

You don't fool me.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jamaica is like south Africa where blacks have achieved political power but not economic power.</div></div>

but it is political power that determines who gets guns..legal or illegal </div></div> <span style="font-weight: bold">Wrong</span>, politicians have to answer to their economic masters .May i remind you of my earlier post where the SUPE WAS CALLING THE SUPERMARKET OWNER TO DETERMINE WHO SHOULD GET A LICENSE AND WHO SHOULD NOT..PRIME EXAMPLE. </div></div> on the surface that would seem to be the case ...but a simple supermarket owner would hardly be a economic master unless his business was a lot more than the grocery business. </div></div>

[RichD]

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so doc...can you name me a economic titian with more influence than say Danhi williams of kenneth black?

do you think if Mr Issa was requested extradited he would be protected by the administration?

[Dr.Dudd]

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He is just a tool of politics. If he dies at the order of a politician tomorrow. a few people will try to avenge him. but if even th eslightest threat is made to th elives of any of the real power house of Jama, the politician will die of a heart attack.
you notice the numbe rof politiocians that came down with questionable ailment srecently? And as soon as they makechanges required, they are fully healthy and fit as a horse?
Now what you were saying about the <span style="text-decoration: line-through"> political tool</span>I mean Williams?
He is serving his purpose.
When he finance the political party he get a few contract,and all the bad name.

But the bigger ones get whole million dollar hotels and lands, and properties, quitely.
and the little black man take the blame for his little, while the bigger criminal s are not even mentioned.
they owne the meadia sources.

they own the banks, they own the manufacturing and distribution machinery for the country.

Now tell me how much that little man really have other the politicuians.

He is a decoy.
Just as the story about th ebank gov is a decoy.

they always have to us esomebody else when something bigger is going down.
I know you know better thanyou saying.

you probably don't want them to pull your mortgage down there, or something.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so doc...can you name me a economic titian with more influence than say Danhi williams of kenneth black?

do you think if Mr Issa was requested extradited he would be protected by the administration? </div></div>

[Panajar]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so doc...can you name me a economic titian with more influence than say Danhi williams of kenneth black?

do you think if Mr Issa was requested extradited he would be protected by the administration? </div></div> <span style="font-size: 17pt">Are you serious ,these guys that you name are nothing more than big fish in a small pond... check out corporate Jamaica for the real power brokers ,think 21 family .Dudus will be extradited only a matter of time.</span>. REAL POWER BROKER, THINK ABOUT WHO WANTED JIM BROWN DEAD AND HAD THE POWER TO CARRY OUT HIS ASSASSINATION.

[Panajar]

Re: Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

SKENG OR DANHI WILL NEVER CALL SHOTS LIKE THIS


Issa deposition continues

Tropin also questioned Issa on a section of the e-mail which mentioned Issa's use of J<span style="color: #FF0000">amaica Defence Force (JDF) helicopters and asked him what that referred to?
Issa: &quot;I've used the Jamaica Defence Force helicopters from time to time.&quot;</span>

<span style="color: #FF0000">Tropin: &quot;Really? How do you get to do that?&quot;</span>
Issa: &quot;Well, they do lease them from time to time, charter them from time to time. The JDF, the Defence Force needed to have a number of meetings which had a ... very costly, and they wanted to get the money to pay for those meetings. And I said I'd pay that, but I don't want to be paid back, let me use it in time. So they said it's so much an hour for the helicopters. So we did a barter, effectively a barter. I paid a hotel in Kingston for the cost of their meetings, which they didn't have at the time, and they provided services in return.&quot;

FULL STORY

<span style="font-size: 17pt">How the hell a private citizen was allowed to use a military helicopter , that is power and prestige IN ALL ITS GLORY..CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ,IF A PRIVATE BUSINESS MAN IN A 'FIRST WORLD&quot; COUNTRY ,USED A MILITARY HELICOPTER FOR HIS OWN NEEDS?</span>.

[Dr.Dudd]

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Can you imagine if a black Jamaican even the retired colonels, have the audacity to use the military helicopters as taxi??


If he is don or whatever they call them, they get assassinated instantly .

Because they too big fro their breeches.
They pass them place.
Talk about who run things in Jamaica

[RichD]

Re: Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

wheni was at munro the sons of a colonel were there and the helicopter would regularly come to pick them up on the weekends.

[RichD]

Re: Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">think 21 family </div></div>

yuh know how long mi a look a list for the 21 families...yuh have one? Is Lightbourne one of them?

[Dr.Dudd]

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Go back and read what I wrote. There is a big difference between a colonel' s use of military equipment, and retired colonels. But how does that compare with private citizens using military equipment as private taxi?
I know you don't have to answer. as a matter of fat you can answer, but you don't have to be forthright.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich</div><div class="ubbcode-body">when i was at munro the sons of a colonel were there and the helicopter would regularly come to pick them up on the weekends. </div></div>

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Bread fruit, or is it coconut?</span>

those who control the country,after they are gone their offspring continue with the same level of influence.

In Jamaica Those who are born into families that control maintain control.
those who acquire temporary control , only get it at the pleasure of those who inherited it.
,and they can have it as long as the controllers find it useful to them and not a minute longer..Those who misunderstand it, end up like Clarke formerly head of the largest private bank in Jamaica. and lattiboudere the former head of the largest government bank in Jamaica.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pengajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">think 21 family </div></div>

yuh know how long mi a look a list for the 21 families...yuh have one? Is Lightbourne one of them? </div></div>

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Go back and read what I wrote. There is a big difference between a colonel' s use of military equipment, and retired colonels. But how does that compare with private citizens using military equipment as private taxi?
I know you don't have to answer. as a matter of fat you can answer, but you don't have to be forthright.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich</div><div class="ubbcode-body">when i was at munro the sons of a colonel were there and the helicopter would regularly come to pick them up on the weekends. </div></div> </div></div>

is there any accuracy to this?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;Well, they do lease them from time to time, charter them from time to </div></div>
if that is in fact true then i see nothing wrong with issa's use of the service.


iw oudl be interested to know if it was unique to him or others were so privileged.

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those who misunderstand it, end up like Clarke formerly head of the largest private bank in Jamaica. </div></div> so mr clarkes situation is racially motivated? nothing to do with him personally and his behavior?

[RichD]

Re: Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Robbers murder Mandeville businessman again

You just try more and more to appear obtuse. Which Jamaican businessman don't do what he is accused to have done/
And since when can any company fire a person on the mere accusation, that has hot been proven? And under what legal system is is a person not allowed to be presented with the facts of is accusaisation and summarily fired?
This is getting ridiculous. You are just creating straw argument to derail the subject.

Yes he was demoted because he tried too hard to become the head of the exclusive Private sector organization of Jamaica.

I had predicted his demise when he was so strident about what they were up to
They even published it in their newspaper, and then get him after.
then they wanted to further demoralize him by giving him peppercorn for retirement. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those who misunderstand it, end up like Clarke formerly head of the largest private bank in Jamaica. </div></div> so mr clarke's situation is racially motivated? nothing to do with him personally and his behavior? </div></div>

[Dr.Dudd]

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That is how they use their tools they own to create decoy to miseducated the Masses. Who rob the country more? How much was misappropriated in the whitehouse hotel again? and who will benefit??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>