(S)Adams complains to the Public Defender

**RichD** · 05-25-2006, 10:31 PM

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howard should jus run him

**Tuff Gong** · 05-26-2006, 07:59 AM

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howard should jus run him

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(s)Adams wuuda juss dun im!

**Dr.Dudd** · 05-28-2006, 11:45 AM

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Any person who believe as he expressed in an interview,that over 75% of Jamaicans are criminals is not psychologically fit to be a police officer.

**neutral** · 05-28-2006, 02:53 PM

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Any person who believe as he expressed in an interview,that over 75% of Jamaicans are criminals is not psychologically fit to be a police officer.

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Didnt see the interview,but did he actually say 75% *are* criminals,or are capable of/or would commit a criminal act.

**niceniss** · 05-28-2006, 09:08 PM

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Any person who believe as he expressed in an interview,that over 75% of Jamaicans are criminals is not psychologically fit to be a police officer.

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people with his psychology are exceedingly dangerous, something he proves time and again.

**Dr.Dudd** · 06-01-2006, 06:19 AM

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Spat over Reneto - Public Defender says cop's reinstatement taking too long, British officials won't condone it
published: Thursday | June 1, 2006

Leonardo Blair, Enterprise Reporter

Reneto Adams - FILE

THE PENDING reinstatement and assigning of Senior Superintendent Reneto Adams to active duty, appears to be creating tension between local officials and the British Government.

Last December, SSP Adams, along with other policemen, were acquitted of murder charges related to the killing of four persons in Kraal, Clarendon, on May 7, 2003. But while the other policemen have been reinstated to active duties, SSP Adams has remained in limbo and Public Defender Howard Hamilton is not pleased about it.

"Legally, Mr. Adams' position is, he is an innocent man," said Mr. Hamilton in an interview from his office on Monday. "His status is as it was before the Kraal incident, consequently the matter of his reinstatement must be addressed. It is a matter of urgency that his situation be rectified. He can't be allowed to remain in limbo indefinitely."

UNFAIR TREATMENT

Mr. Hamilton recently intervened in the matter at the request of Mr. Adams who feels he is being treated unfairly. He explained that he has since written to Commissioner of Police Lucius Thomas. The Commissioner's Office, he explained, responded in a letter signed by Deputy Commissioner of Police Jevene Bent, informing him that the matter has been referred to the Police Services Commission (PSC). "When I hear from the Police Services Commission, I will act, it has been an inordinately long time," Hamilton said.

Yesterday, however, at a post-sectoral press briefing at the Ministry of National Security, Commissioner Thomas told journalists that he intends to reinstate SSP Adams but was awaiting word from the PSC to do so.

COMMISSIONER'S DECISION

"The decision rests with the Commissioner of Police and the Police Services Commission. I await a formal letter from the Police Services Commission to reinstate Mr. Adams and I emphasise that Mr. Adams will be reinstated."

"The policy is that the Police Services Commission is responsible for discipline, promotions and study leave. The Commis-sioner of Police has the responsibility and the authority to reinstate from the rank of Constable to Sergeant, any other rank above that we refer to the Police Services Commission," Thomas explained.

But that statement was quickly qualified by Noel Hylton, chairman of the PSC yesterday, when he declared that the PSC does not make decisions concerning the assignment or reinstatement of the Commissioner's staff.

"The Commissioner is totally responsible for his workforce, he decides where his staff goes!" said Hylton. "There is a difference between assignment and reinstatement. The Commissioner has written to the PSC about the reinstatement of Mr. Adams. He does not have to wait on a response from us to make a decision."

In a statement on Monday, the British Government, which currently assists the JCF with crime-fighting efforts, said it was not in support of the lobby for SSP Adams' reinstatement. "We note that a decision is pending on the possible reinstatement of Reneto Adams. We are clear that the British Government's support for the JCF in no way condones the activities carried out by the Crime Management Unit, that led to the allegations at Kraal in Clarendon," said the British High Commission in a statement.

"Supported by the UK, the JCF is undergoing an important reform and modernisation programme. We believe that the JCF and the Government of Jamaica are working hard to ensure that the JCF becomes a more professional, highly regarded and transparent organisation. The British Government remains committed to supporting the JCF in this regard, " the statement added.

Last year, in a statement after Adams' acquittal, Commissioner Thomas said the freed policemen would not have been reinstated until they received counselling. He said this was according to the Force's policy covering officers who have been out of service for more than one year. Since then Adams has done the requisite therapy.

Dudd:The real bosses are forced to make public their usually back door controls.

**evanovitch** · 06-01-2006, 10:11 AM

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u know mi was juss coming to post dis to ask for comments re it...

for me, the bit of interest is the activity of the British government....is one ting to be 'helping'....is another to now find out juss how much weight this 'help' carries....

it is troubling for many a reason and we should not let the person of Adams blind us to the full implication of what their power and their use of it in this case, shows, and could mean going forward

if the Queen is a 'titular' head of our government, we need to revisit just how 'titular' is 'titular' [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

**RichD** · 06-01-2006, 10:40 AM

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they plannin to drag this out a couple more years til Admas is at retirement age [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

**evanovitch** · 06-01-2006, 10:46 AM

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they plannin to drag this out a couple more years til Admas is at retirement age [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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is funny how in dis article di acting baas man no ha nooooo quote attributed to him...usually any news bout police ha fi him 'mark' [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]pon it.....is long time mi no hear ref to di actual Commissioner....but dis time, my guy deh behine 'shields' [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]it would seem an ha nutten to say...him shielding him comments ...not mekking him mark pon dis one at allll [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

**RichD** · 06-01-2006, 10:58 AM

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i think given his role in the Kraal investigation one the basis of which the charges were initially laid he would be forced to reserve comment.

**evanovitch** · 06-01-2006, 11:08 AM

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i think given his role in the Kraal investigation one the basis of which the charges were initially laid he would be forced to reserve comment.

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ah haaaaaaaaah...so is him is di insider, snitch, informer er interested information gatherer fr the british perspective etc fi di Br govt [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].....mek mi stop yah...mi mite end up pon persona non grata liss a airport [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

**neutral** · 06-01-2006, 06:36 PM

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I would be very suprised if he is re-instated given the british gov`s objections to his re-instatement.

If the Jamaican Gov stands to lose any much needed financial or other supportive assistance because of his re-instatement then he might as well start planning what to do after early retirement.

**Wardob** · 06-13-2006, 08:11 PM

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Reneto Adams back in uniformRights group dismayed over reinstatement of controversial cop
BY T K WHYTE Observer staff reporterTuesday, June 13, 2006

RENETO Adams yesterday donned the familiar brown khaki uniform and epaulette bearing a crown and a star of his rank and immediately issued personal phone numbers inviting tip-offs about criminal activities, as he assumed a new role off the front-line but behind an intelligence desk at police headquarters.
"I will be collecting, receiving, managing, collating, analysing intelligence and passing it on to various agencies and police officers to whom such intelligence would be important," Senior Superintendent Adams told the Observer from his office at 103 Old Hope Road in Kingston.

Senior Superintendent Reneto Adams yesterday at his desk at the Office of the Police Commissioner in Kingston, where he has been given a job to analyse intelligence and pass it on to various agencies and officers in the constabulary. (Photo: Garfield Robinson)
Adams, a little heavier around the waist than when he was first taken off front-line duties in 2004, was again his old chatty self, declaring that he was happy for the opportunity to again serve the Jamaican people through this new medium.
"Wherever I am placed, I have always responded so whether it's on the front-line, rear-line or sideline, where the commissioner assigns me such as to this intelligence desk, I will gladly go. I have no hang-ups," said the Jamaican supercop.
In his new intelligence job, Adams will report directly to Police Commissioner Lucius Thomas, director of communications for the police force Karl Angell confirmed yesterday.
The decision was aimed apparently at appeasing the controversial tough cop, who was cleared of murder charges in the celebrated Crawle case, while keeping him off the streets to please his critics, including the British Home Office.
Deputy commissioner of police Charles Scarlet has portfolio responsibility for intelligence gathering, and it was not immediately clear whether there would be a conflict with the two men reporting directly to Thomas.
Adams insisted that he would share his intelligence with Scarlet and he hoped Scarlet would do the same with him.
But Thomas' compromise move, while seeming to be enthusiastically embraced by Adams, immediately drew the fire of human rights group Jamaicans For Justice (JFJ) which made it clear they wanted him kicked off the police force.
"We are uncomfortable with it, in fact we are dismayed by it," reacted Carolyn Gomes, executive director of the JFJ. "We are also dismayed that he has been given a desk at the commissioner's office," Gomes told the Observer last night.
The JFJ head was concerned that Adams' reinstatement might have a negative effect on other officers within the police force.
"We are concerned about the message that is being sent around the force, particularly to those officers who have been working so hard to change the image of the force," she said.
However, for his part, the head of the Police Officers Association, acting assistant commissioner of police Leon Rose, declined to comment on the development, saying he was off the island and had only just returned.
But one of his members, DSP Raymond Clementson, operations officer at Police Control, did not mince words about Adams' reinstatement when the Observer sought comments.
"If I had the power, I would put him back on front-line duty immediately. I think he did a good job while he was out there and we need someone to be firm, fair and to take action when it is necessary, where it comes to crime in this country," declared the outspoken Clementson. "He has been exonerated and I don't see why he should not be on the street."
At the Police High Command, Adams was upbeat about his new assignment, telling the Observer that he would be reporting directly to Commissioner Thomas and no one else. He was relieved to be back on the job and would be doing the assignment "with energy, loyalty and commitment".
Adams, former head of the now disbanded Crime Management Unit (CMU), was removed from front-line duties after he and five of his men were arrested for the 2003 murder of four people, including two women during a raid on a house at Crawle in Clarendon. The police had said the four were killed during a shoot-out.
The five were acquitted of the charge by a 12-man jury in December 2005. Four of the cops were reinstated to their jobs, but Thomas ordered that Adams undergo a series of psychiatric counselling by consultant psychiatrist Dr George Leverage, and police chaplain Dr Vivian Panton before reinstatement could be considered.
He said on completion of the counselling a report would be submitted to the Police Services Commission (PSC) who would decide whether to reinstate him. After months of waiting, Adams complained to the public defender that despite his acquittal, he was still not reinstated. The long wait ended yesterday.
Adams said gathering intelligence was most important to the force as there were not many things the force could do without utilising proper intelligence that was actionable. One of the high points of his 38-year career, he said, was the fact that he was trained in intelligence-gathering, management and analysis.
Although confined to a desk job, Adams said as an intelligence-gathering officer, he would sometimes be on the streets, not on front-line duties but in a covert capacity.
Adams invited the public to call him at his office at 978-3371 or cellular 404-4384 and pass on intelligence reports to him in confidence.
With additional reporting by Vaughn

“I would be very surprised if he is re-instated given the british gov`s objections to his re-instatement

If the Jamaican Gov stands to lose any much needed financial or other supportive assistance because of his re-instatement then he might as well start planning what to do after early retirement. “……… Neutral

Sorry we did not meet yours or the Brits expectation. Let it be a lesson any decision to fire or hire any Jamaican in Jamaica (and yes that mean Adams) must be made by us meaning our Government that’s why we elect them to make decision in our interest not the interest of others, and they should not allow no money, no oil or any other deal from outside source, influence their decision. Object if they want but in the end, right or wrong let us be our own master.

Let Jamaica for Justice and the people of Jamaica talk, Great Britain but out………

**Hopyoneson** · 06-14-2006, 10:19 AM

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Guess that caption....What is SSP Adams is saying is it

a)Yes...hello may I speak to Mark Shields, is this Mark Shields...please to go suck out yu _______ and keep mi name out a yu mouth

b)Yes Jucci patty, give me a order of yu curry chicken and green banana lunch special

c)hello Zeeks, this is renota decardova..**click*** hello, hello,... Zeeks, yu still there.

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