Coming Soon - Elections!

**niceniss** · 09-05-2006, 12:07 AM

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‘Complex topics like global warming and local environmental issues need to be explained properly to citizens who can't read or write,”

A worthwhile topic for any debate , but lets not stretch it. The only debate Portia want , or fit for ,or can get into is Cuss, Cuss. As KD said she is incapable of putting two sentences together.So thank God she will not get into a debate, after all I am a Jamaican and take no pleasure in seeing my PM embarrass before the world .

"The JLP will need to get out the vote!" ... Tuff

Take it from me Bro.the Machineries are in place.. She is scared and only rounding up her mouth as that’s the only thing she got.

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**niceniss** · 09-05-2006, 12:17 AM

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Such contrasting opinions. It makes you wonder if all these people live in the same country. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

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I said the same thing. Still in shock--Dawn Ritch wrote that last piece?!?!?!? Will wonders never cease! Maybe, just maybe there is hope....

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hope with an idiot like ms simpson at the helm? are you kidding me?

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Blackstar* · 09-05-2006, 02:56 AM

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Blackstar* · 09-05-2006, 07:48 AM

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Bruce Golding's new agenda - Pt 2 (3rd post)
published: Tuesday | September 5, 2006

Today we present the continuation of excepts from Opposition Leader Bruce Golding's extensive interview with Earl Moxam.

Earl Moxam: What concerns you most about the tenure of Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller, so far?

Bruce Golding: The lack of direction. The fact that she has failed to define her prime ministership; because her prime ministership has to be about more than just dipping into the Housing Trust and dipping into the National Insurance Fund. People sort of knew where Mr. Patterson was headed. People clearly knew where Mr. Manley was headed, even though some of us were fearful of that direction. People knew where Mr. Seaga was going, even those who disagreed with his direction and his approach. Secondly, you continue to hear and to see signs that there is no cohesiveness in terms of the management of the country's affairs. You know, there was a rumour ... and I know the rumour (about Finance Minister Omar Davies resigning) has been denied, but it is an open secret that the comfort level that is required to make a government function (is absent).There are so many things that have to be done in government that involve collaboration among ministers and it has to be collaboration that is rooted in an acceptance and recognition of the fact that you are team players.

Are you saying she is not up to the job?

I can't make that judgement. She's only been there a few months. What I'm saying is that we are not seeing it and I believe that people are making judgements about it.

Is she wrong-footing you? Is it that you find it so difficult to define what she is doing and the particular areas on which to attack her? Would you have found it easier to critique and criticise somebody else?

No, I think it is early days yet. Everybody needs their apprentice-ship period; some people need a longer apprenticeship than others. It doesn't mean that at the end of that apprenticeship, however extended it might be, that the apprentice would have learnt. I think people are waiting to see what difference she has made. Which comes back to the question of how has she defined her prime ministership that is peculiar to her? ... And bear in mind that her government has not faced any major crisis yet. People wonder sometimes if we do face a crisis what would happen. If there was a crisis in terms of our economic programme that required tough decisions, are those decisions capable of being reconciled with the image that she has built up for herself? As Mr. Seaga reminded us, it takes cash to care!

What are you going to do about Parliament - the physical facility - if you are elected?

I don't believe the decision about Parliament can be a unilateral decision. I don't believe that either the PNP or the JLP, whichever is in government, ought really to make that decision. It really has to be a bi-partisan decision. I have indicated that I'm strongly opposed to relocating Parliament. That particular intersection of Duke Street and Beeston Street has been the seat of our Parliament since the 19th century. There was Headquarters House, which we have not done justice to because I think it should have become more than just a heritage site, but should have become a place that we maintain as a living museum. We need to expand Parliament. What I propose is that we acquire the lands adjoining parliament - on the west and east and the north ... the lands bordered by Charles Street to the north; Mark Lane to the west, and John's Lane to the east, with Beeston Street, and develop a new Parliament complex straddling Duke Street. And I think it would be a good idea to have traffic passing through the parliamentary structure. I don't like the idea of isolating parliament and keeping it away from the people.

Allied to that, what are you going to do to halt the slide in downtown Kingston in terms of the economy of the place; the social infrastructure, etc.?

Firstly, I think you need a comprehensive redesign of down-town. The business of doing a little thing here and a little thing over there can't work. You need to see the big picture - This is the downtown Kingston that we are seeking to recreate! Secondly, you have to put back some of the critical functioning institutions downtown. If you notice, government has fled downtown! All the ministries now have to move to New Kingston and the appurtenances of New Kingston. We need to put it back down there, which is why I'm so opposed to Gordon House moving, because if you move parliament out of downtown Kingston, that would be the last of it. Thirdly, we want to tie in that redesign of downtown with the proposal that Mr. Seaga had put forward, which I am determined to implement, for that Freeport facility at Fort Augusta, tied in with the redevelopment of Port Royal for cruise shipping and so on.

The whole of it has to be integrated. We would bring in all the professionals required to begin working on it as soon as we take office. Get that big picture; that vision created, because only then will you be able to market it and say to businesses that downtown is where the action is. Look at what has happened to Harlem in New York for example. My son lived in Harlem and told me that it got to a stage that he had to leave (despite the fact that he loved it there) because he could no longer live there because property values had quadrupled in the space of two years. (Bill) Clinton went down there and set up his office and so on. So, it is something that can be done and I want to move on it.

**Tuff Gong** · 09-09-2006, 05:15 PM

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Sat Sep 9, 2006
Mountain View residents accuse police of cruelty

Sections of Mountain View Avenue were blocked for several hours Saturday morning by scores of residents who protested against what they say is the brutal treatment being meted out by the police in that division.

The protestors are calling for measures to be taken against officers who have been mistreating them.

Police personnel on the scene have however dismissed the allegations pointing to the fact that their intervention has reduced the level of crime in the area.

Jamaica Labour Party Caretaker for the area, Joan Gordon Webley, told our news team that she has written to the Police High Command about the matter.

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**Morpheous** · 09-10-2006, 07:44 AM

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The electorate,or the opposition?
The opposition does not convince the people that they will represent them if put in ofice,that is why the people are willing to stick with th ebad they know,instead of gamble for what they don't.

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This is not entirely true. While I don't support ANY political party, I find that people who use this statement are normally those in support of the ruling party. The JLP had a very long run and so have the PNP. The people of Jamaica have always taken chances and gave each party a chance even at a time when Jamaica just got "independence" and despite the many hurdles and disappointments by BOTH parties.

Jamaicans WILL in time, decide to support the NDM or JLP, but only when the time is right and the "right" person is leading that party. History tells us the people have always given those in the political spectrum a chance to prove themselves, even in desparation for a change. We now have a FEMALE PM, that was unthinkable only a few years back; given Jamaicas perceived macho image. Saying it's better to be with the devil you know rather than the one you don't - is like saying, accept and stay in a rut and don't look for alternative ways out. Having said that, in my opionion ALL politicians are the same regardless of which political party they are affiliated to. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

**Tuff Gong** · 09-10-2006, 06:46 PM

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You are using this:

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Having said that, in my opionion ALL politicians are the same regardless of which political party they are affiliated to. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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....to counter this:

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The electorate,or the opposition?
The opposition does not convince the people that they will represent them if put in ofice,that is why the people are willing to stick with th ebad they know,instead of gamble for what they don't.

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What is the difference?

**remo** · 09-12-2006, 11:26 PM

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‘Complex topics like global warming and local environmental issues need to be explained properly to citizens who can't read or write,”

A worthwhile topic for any debate , but lets not stretch it. The only debate Portia want , or fit for ,or can get into is Cuss, Cuss. As KD said she is incapable of putting two sentences together.So thank God she will not get into a debate, after all I am a Jamaican and take no pleasure in seeing my PM embarrass before the world .

"The JLP will need to get out the vote!" ... Tuff

Take it from me Bro.the Machineries are in place.. She is scared and only rounding up her mouth as that’s the only thing she got.

Watch the Green............ [img]/forums/images/graemlins/bannana_purple.gif[/img]

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Well after reading that question and answer with Goldie he dose'nt appear to have a full load either [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

**Wardob** · 09-13-2006, 01:34 PM

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“Well after reading that question and answer with Goldie he doesn’t appear to have a full load either”………. Reno

Instead of your one line, maybe should instead point out the answers given that you disagree or have problem with.

**Tuff Gong** · 09-14-2006, 07:13 PM

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PNP insiders say general elections are in the air 
Posted 2006-09-14
Local political observers are closely watching several developments which suggest that Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller is preparing to go to the polls soon.

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JLP back on the campaign trail with tri-parish run
(2006-09-14)

The Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) is back on the road Thursday as it continues its islandwide pre-election campaign.

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NDM ready and waiting to go to the polls


(2006-09-14)The National Democratic Movement (NDM) says it is ready to contest the next general election.

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Blackstar* · 09-17-2006, 07:12 AM

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Golding is talking about the progam now - at last!
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Golding talks rural development under tamarind tree
BY Garfield Myers Editor-at-Large South/Central Bureau
Sunday, September 17, 2006

Santa Cruz, St Elizabeth - For Bruce Golding, the final stop on last Thursday's tour of South East St Elizabeth was a little like coming home to family and friends.

The opposition leader had arrived in Queensberry, a quiet farming district in the lower reaches of the Santa Cruz Mountains, just west of Southfield, where his mother Enid Louise Bent-Golding was born.

And having walked and greeted the locals, several of them his cousins, Golding, flanked and introduced by Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) caretaker Frank Witter and party deputy leader Horace Chang, took up position on a shop piazza, under a tamarind tree and not surprisingly, delivered a message on rural development.

Claiming that the People's National Party (PNP) government of the past 17 years had neglected rural folk while preoccupying itself with "big" projects such as highways and hotels, Golding told the folk of Queensberry that for he and his party, rural development must involve "three things all wrapped up in one": education, increased agricultural production and meaningful political representation.

For the locals complaining bitterly about bad roads and the absence of running water, Golding touched a nerve and drew applause when he claimed that such was the PNP government's neglect of the rural areas that it was "like Queensberry drop off the map".

Insisting that an upgraded education system was vital if Jamaica was to lift itself out of underdevelopment and move forward, the JLP leader said he would not backtrack on his promise to remove from parents the cost of tuition fees at secondary school level, should he gain political power after the upcoming parliamentary elections.

"If you can't guarantee that the children will have access at least to secondary education, then what you are doing is condemning them to darkness," he said. "I get angry when I hear people talking on radio as if this is some wild, reckless promise that the Labour Party is making."

He argued that in Barbados, education has long been free up to university level, and another Caricom sister nation, Trinidad & Tobago, has provided free tuition to high school students and was now moving to provide the same benefits at university level.
Yet in Jamaica, "instead of trying to follow them, we are going backwards", Golding said.

He rejected suggestions that the cost to the Jamaican economy would make such a move reckless at this time.

The sum that was needed annually to make tuition free to high school level was $500 million, Golding claimed. This, he argued, was less than the $575-million which Finance Minister Omar Davies had to find "every single day, including Saturday and Sunday", to service the national debt.

Moving to his "second pillar" of rural development, that of increasing farm production in order to strengthen the economic base, Golding argued that the answer was technology. Already he said, a select few were reaping the benefits by using modern technology, including green houses, to increase production by up to "five times" what it was before.

The challenge was to empower the ordinary man to also access modern technology, so that his production levels will allow him to "make a good money" while keeping prices competitive with cheap imports.

A government led by him would be moving to reduce the cost of modern farm technology and to lend money to farmers to access that new technology as well as provide training. It was time, he argued, for farmers everywhere in Jamaica to move from the "donkey to the pick-up".

Golding said his 'third pillar', effective political representation, would be bolstered by his plan for 2.5 per cent of the budget to be divided equally among all 60 political constituencies to address the areas of greatest need. In such a situation, he argued, communities such as Queensberry would be in a position to have their greatest needs - not least roads and running water - addressed.

Blackstar* · 09-17-2006, 07:14 AM

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EOJ gets election money
Saturday, September 16, 2006

THE government has released money to the Electoral Office of Jamaica (EOJ), which will now allow the elections body to get its voting machinery ready.
Complete Story ...

Blackstar* · 09-17-2006, 08:36 AM

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Compare and contrast... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Bruce look like he's happy to receive loved from others, while Portia looks like she is happy to give love to others. It's petty, but politicians have lost elections over less.

Jamaica Labour Party leader Bruce Golding
gets a hug from an elderly resident of Maroon Town in
South St James on Friday during a political tour of the
constituency. (Photo: Mark Cummings) 

 Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller (right)
embraces Patricia Barnett on Wednesday as she presents
her with the first set of keys at the handing-over ceremony
for apartments in the Inner City Housing Project at
88 to 100 Spanish Town Road in Kingston.
(Photo: Karl McLarty)

**remo** · 09-18-2006, 03:29 PM

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&#8220;Well after reading that question and answer with Goldie he doesn&#8217;t appear to have a full load either&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; . Reno

Instead of your one line, maybe should instead point out the answers given that you disagree or have problem with.

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EM: Where would you find the money to afford the police a quantum leap in their compensation?

BG: Where did the PNP government find the money? I think it was just prior to the 1997 election, when the police wages were increased by almost 100 per cent.
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I think this is a stupid reply...How does one answer a question with a question and this man wants to be prime minister,dont get me wrong i am neither a PNP or JLP supporter..... none of them impress me.......

**Morpheous** · 09-18-2006, 07:43 PM

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You are using this:

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Having said that, in my opionion ALL politicians are the same regardless of which political party they are affiliated to. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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....to counter this:

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The electorate,or the opposition?
The opposition does not convince the people that they will represent them if put in ofice,that is why the people are willing to stick with th ebad they know,instead of gamble for what they don't.

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What is the difference?

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Read both quotes carefully AGAIN, "TRY" to apply LOGICS this time and you will see the difference.

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