'Portia the only hope'

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Patterson, who was named a lifetime officer of the party at the conference, reminded the crowd of his decision to remain in Jamaica after his retirement, but declared that he did not wish to live under any government "other than one of the People's National Party".

Well, when he was younger he lived under JLP goverment. I am wondering why he won't at this stage. He should be having a better life now, with all his years of service to the public and private law practice. I haven't heard of any dis-repect to him since he has retired. I can't figure this one out! Was it a slip of the tongue, or a mis-qoute by the press?

[RichD]

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he has expressed thsi opinion before.


remeber they belive they they are best for jamaica and anythignthat causes them to be in power is best for jamaica....

[Dyoll_73]

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Very Machievelian. let's see: they are best for Jamaica - that's debatable, perhaps bogus. Anything that causes them to maintain power: well, I suppose breaking a few skulls, rigging elections, perpetrating political violence and gangsterism/donmanship, fraud, etc, are all justifiable means of maintaining power since the end result is 'honorable.'

[Dr.Dudd]

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I disagree (sic)the Jamaican electrorate is well informed and sophisticated.... They are much more aware of the runnings but vote out of pure pragmatic.. The aproach is who gives the most as well as chosing the best of a rum lot.....It is mostly about short trm porkbarrel...

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In one statement,you disagree that the Jamaican electorate lacks sophistication but then, in the following sentence, you go on to show that they indeed lack sophistication. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You don't seem to understand the reality of maslows laws.
Otherwise how could you expect behavior exeptional to it?
These laws re not just some theory thought up by some professor. It is the laws governing human behavior according to their circumstances.
It governs them just as it does all of us.. We simply behave according to our state of satisfaction with our station in life.
Their behavior is normal for their station. everybodu knows that the majority of the Jamaican working poor live hand to mouth. So why should they not spend the majority of their time planning for the next meal?
Survival comes first for them just as it does with you,me and all forms of life.

[Serenity82]

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I disagree (sic)the Jamaican electrorate is well informed and sophisticated.... They are much more aware of the runnings but vote out of pure pragmatic.. The aproach is who gives the most as well as chosing the best of a rum lot.....It is mostly about short trm porkbarrel...

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In one statement,you disagree that the Jamaican electorate lacks sophistication but then, in the following sentence, you go on to show that they indeed lack sophistication. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You don't seem to understand the reality of maslows laws.
Otherwise how could you expect behavior exeptional to it?
These laws re not just some theory thought up by some professor. It is the laws governing human behavior according to their circumstances.
It governs them just as it does all of us.. We simply behave according to our state of satisfaction with our station in life.
Their behavior is normal for their station. everybodu knows that the majority of the Jamaican working poor live hand to mouth. So why should they not spend the majority of their time planning for the next meal?
Survival comes first for them just as it does with you,me and all forms of life.

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How come everyone is so gloomy and no one seems to have any real respect for their leaders? hmm

[Dyoll_73]

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You don't seem to understand the reality of maslows laws.
Otherwise how could you expect behavior exeptional to it?
These laws re not just some theory thought up by some professor. It is the laws governing human behavior according to their circumstances.
It governs them just as it does all of us.. We simply behave according to our state of satisfaction with our station in life.
Their behavior is normal for their station. everybodu knows that the majority of the Jamaican working poor live hand to mouth. So why should they not spend the majority of their time planning for the next meal?
Survival comes first for them just as it does with you,me and all forms of life.

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If what you're saying is true, and since it may be convenient for the PNP to keep the people poor (Portia, for example, loves the poor people so much, she wants to keep them poor) thereby ensuring a reliable voting block (the poor overwhelmingly vote PNP), then Jamaica's situation is hopeless for a very long time to come. Your argument, when taken to its logical conclusion, would also mean that poor people can't think, and perhaps aren't smart - pretty contemptuous, I would think. I can't accept your your argument as a plausible explanation for the state of affairs in Jamaica. It seems to me to be an attempt to rationalize immature political behavior using some psychological theory which you believe to be iron-clad. I don't think so. I don't accept your view; you don't have to accept mine.

[Tuff Gong]

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How come everyone is so gloomy and no one seems to have any real respect for their leaders? hmm

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Who is gloomy and how is this leader being disrespected?

[niceniss]

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... they belive they they are best for jamaica and anythignthat(sic) causes them to be in power is best for jamaica....

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Very Machievelian. let's see: they are best for Jamaica - that's debatable, perhaps bogus. Anything that causes them to maintain power: well, I suppose breaking a few skulls, rigging elections, perpetrating political violence and gangsterism/donmanship, fraud, etc, are all justifiable means of maintaining power since the end result is 'honorable.'

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aw, yuh learning my yute! kudos! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70458-applaud.gif[/img]

me woulda laugh if it wasn't so tragic! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[niceniss]

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I disagree (sic)the Jamaican electrorate is well informed and sophisticated.... They are much more aware of the runnings but vote out of pure pragmatic.. The aproach is who gives the most as well as chosing the best of a rum lot.....It is mostly about short trm porkbarrel...

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In one statement,you disagree that the Jamaican electorate lacks sophistication but then, in the following sentence, you go on to show that they indeed lack sophistication. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You don't seem to understand the reality of maslows laws.
Otherwise how could you expect behavior exeptional to it?
These laws re not just some theory thought up by some professor. It is the laws governing human behavior according to their circumstances.
It governs them just as it does all of us.. We simply behave according to our state of satisfaction with our station in life.
Their behavior is normal for their station. everybodu knows that the majority of the Jamaican working poor live hand to mouth. So why should they not spend the majority of their time planning for the next meal?
Survival comes first for them just as it does with you,me and all forms of life.

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How come everyone is so gloomy and no one seems to have any real respect for their leaders? hmm

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Serenity, a word of advice: observe and try comprehending before you pass baseless judgements. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Tuff Gong]

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Ten PNP candidates given 14-day ultimatum

MARK CUMMINGS, Observer staff reporter
Monday, October 02, 2006

ROSE HALL, St James - The ruling People's National Party (PNP) has given 10 of its constituency representatives two weeks to improve their performance ratings, failing which their names will be removed from the party's slate of candidates in the upcoming general elections.

PNP's campaign director Dr Paul Robertson, who confirmed the party's stance shortly after the party's closed-door National Executive Council (NEC) meeting at the Rose Hall Country Club and Resorts yesterday, declined to name the constituencies which will come under close scrutiny by the party over the next 14 days.

"They (the constituencies) are spread right across the island," Robertson said, adding that the party was taking its election preparations seriously.

But, the Observer has learnt that at least two of the constituencies are located in Western Jamaica. They are in East Central St James, where the candidate is Donald Colomathi and West Central St James, which is represented by used-car dealer Gordon Bauldie.

Opposition Spokesman on Tourism Ed Bartlett is the sitting member of parliament for the East Central seat, while Clive Mullings, who is the JLP's spokesman on energy and mining, holds the West Central St James seat.

Meanwhile, party chairman Robert Pickersgill told reporters that during yesterday's NEC meeting, Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller warned party candidates not to take her popularity for granted in their bid to seek political representation.

"She said that no one must rest on any laurels, there should be no complacency and that those who are expected to hang on to her frock tail are in for a sad mistake," Pickersgill said.

He added that the party leader also warned that she would not be afraid to change the party's existing constituency representatives in an effort to win the upcoming general elections.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html..._ULTIMATUM_.asp

[Dyoll_73]

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The ruling People's National Party (PNP) has given 10 of its constituency representatives two weeks to improve their performance ratings, failing which their names will be removed from the party's slate of candidates in the upcoming general elections.

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I'm wondering if Omar Davis is among them. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Tuff Gong]

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The ruling People's National Party (PNP) has given 10 of its constituency representatives two weeks to improve their performance ratings, failing which their names will be removed from the party's slate of candidates in the upcoming general elections.

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I'm wondering if Omar Davis is among them. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Nope is is still favoured among the top brass of the party.

Mon Oct 2, 2006
Big names from NEC to sit on PNP executive

Some well known names were elected from the National Executive Council (NEC) to sit on the executive of the People's National Party (PNP).
The party constitution stipulates that 11 members of the NEC must be elected to sit on the PNP executive.

<font color="red">Of the 22 persons nominated, Omar Davies came away with the highest number of votes.</font>

He was followed by John Junor; Trevor Munroe, Anthony Hylton, Aloun Assamba, Eugene Kelly, Dean Peart, Kern Spencer, Ronald Thwaites, Floyd Morris and Denise Daley.

The election for the positions of four Deputy General Secretaries was not held.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/news/story.php?category=2&amp;story=28718

[Serenity82]

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Well usually when people discuss the leaders of their country they mix in some positive statements however on this board nothing is ever said positive about the PM or other leaders. It's always negative, sarcastic and with an attacking tone.

I mean for sure the leader(s) is doing something right right?

[Yuriatin]

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Evening Serenity - I'm sort of a newbieoldie on this board - long story but it's in NEW TO JAMAICANS.COM if you're interested.

Can I ask you a question though - in all seriousness and with no sarcasm ... Feel free not to answer if you don't want.

Have you ever lived in Jamaica?

Thanks - Y.

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Well usually when people discuss the leaders of their country they mix in some positive statements however on this board nothing is ever said positive about the PM or other leaders. It's always negative, sarcastic and with an attacking tone.

I mean for sure the leader(s) is doing something right right?

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[Tuff Gong]

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Evening Serenity - I'm sort of a newbieoldie on this board - long story but it's in NEW TO JAMAICANS.COM if you're interested.

Can I ask you a question though - in all seriousness and with no sarcasm ... Feel free not to answer if you don't want.

Have you ever lived in Jamaica?

Thanks - Y.

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Well usually when people discuss the leaders of their country they mix in some positive statements however on this board nothing is ever said positive about the PM or other leaders. It's always negative, sarcastic and with an attacking tone.

I mean for sure the leader(s) is doing something right right?

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<ul type="square">More importantly does she have any relative(s) in Jamaica who?
[*]might tek sick and have to go to a public hospital[*]might run into a police road block[*]might need to apply for housing trust benefits[*]might need to get any document from a Government Agency on time and @ cost[*]has to live and socialize in the <font color="red">red areas</font> of city killsome
who lives in the Prime Minister's Constituency, find it necessary to dodge bullets on the way to and from school or work and worse is sentenced to doing their business on a gully bank?[/list]
Leaders must command respect by showing respect. They must not diss their Office and the Citizens of Jamaica.