Seaga Reasoning

[Wardob]

Re: Seaga Reasoning

If my memory serve me right, sometime ago in respond to another poster (Simple) in one of his post Dr. said It could be found in some Library of UWI, I was in Ja at that time and asked several friends at UWI search for any such a document, to this day they cannot find any such document.

I will contact them once more to look again, and would appreciate if Dr could give us some better direction, as maybe they are looking in the wrong place. So Dr how about that?

[Sinco01]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sinco01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just happen to be aware of a slightly different history of his life.
It is in the archives of a prominent ivy league unoversity. It is not as glowing of Mr bustamante. ever wonder why he as an ordinary citizen could have his letter to th eeditor printed in the Gleaner every day for over thfee years between the time he returned from the USA and becomming involved in the labour movement?
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i brought it up with one of our long missing posters Fledgist.
it was the object of a PHD thesis done about 3 years ago that I was asked to examine. It is posted on a password secured page. I had sent the URL to the good Professor to examine then. It is not yest published as a result I cant post it.
It support a view that the good gentleman was selected prepared and promoted to take control of the agitating worker's movement. Tools used were the gleaner that he had letters published on a daily basis for the years prior to his involvement as a usurer to the workers on the water front. he then took control of th eexisting union byuse of the pay day loans to members,he joined the PNP, but after he left UP park camp,he disrespected Norman manley his cousin who was always his attorney,and formed the JLP,which just happened to attract all the members of the former Planters party.
Of course all this time the majority of workers/voters were illitearte/semi literate.
the main thing that stood out to me was the author could not find one instance where he ever considered himself equal to the workers,or the workers equal to him. in other words, they needed his leadership to survive.

h eeven found that what was publicised as "kill me and leave my people alone" was actually Shoot me no N!ggrr boy,you tink you can shoot white man".
It was a discovery.
other than the reference to the recorded events,His attitude in the party and politics leads me to believe this was true.
but this is not yet public knowledge,so i don't expect others to support it.
That is why i was saying that they should not place any person as the principle of the party. they need to place ideas.
for those who say some praise the manleys. that does not include me,because ai only support principles. If manley or any peerson's action is principled, i will express it. I don't fall in love with any man. I have not ever pinched anybody on their but much less doing it to michael manley. talking about emotional attachment to politicians.
...and I don't need spread sheet, i have a working brain.
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wonder if this is documented too ?

Shoot me no N!ggrr boy,you tink you can shoot white man".

[Dr.Dudd]

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Everything in a thesis based on history has to be referenced as to th esource. yes it is documanted. every last item.
as a matter of fact the source of his life in the Us .was referenced from State department originated sources.
No it was not done at the UWI.it was done at a Usniversity by an American,but used a lot of jamaican sources incl;uding Gleaner, Instituite of Jamaica and the UWI Institute of social and economic research.

[Dyoll_73]

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What university has this information? They may have an online-line catalog that we can check, if unable to physically visit that library. And who is the author again?

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dyoll_73</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What university has this information? They may have an online-line catalog that we can check, if unable to physically visit that library. And who is the author again? </div></div>

Maybe yu taaking to the athar?

[Yuriatin]

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Stop it Tuffi - you too wikid!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dyoll_73</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What university has this information? They may have an online-line catalog that we can check, if unable to physically visit that library. And who is the author again? </div></div>

Maybe yu taaking to the athar? </div></div>

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuriatin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stop it Tuffi - you too wikid!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dyoll_73</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What university has this information? They may have an online-line catalog that we can check, if unable to physically visit that library. And who is the author again? </div></div>

Maybe yu taaking to the athar? </div></div> </div></div>

.... if im ansa two more questions mi wi sure!

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Well if you mean for Jamaica we can by be engaged.
<ul>[*]we can communicate our displeasure of poor Governance to the Jamaican citizens through the media, traditional and otherwise.[*]we can directly confront the private and public eadership through mail, the media and or boycotts.[*]<span style="color: #3333FF">we can use the other parts of the UN, such as its Human Rights and Economic fora.</span>[*]we can ask other Governments who have relationships with the GOJ to re-examine their relationship with the Jamaican Government.[*]<span style="color: #FF0000">we can conduct non-partisian voter eduction for Jamaican citizens living in Jamaica, so they overstand the importance of their votes and the neccestity to use the power they have to determine the future of Jamaica, hence their personal futire.</span>[/list]
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That in red is a good way forward for the long term.
That in blue is vital for the short-medium term.
The rest on the list may not work in my opionion.

[Tuff Gong]

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LOL!