Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

[johnnycakes]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

Tell you what, lets visit the great socialist state, where there is free health care, no one living in the streets(though they may live in over-crowded, run-down apartments), and where there is no class system, because everybody is poor(except for the party heirarchy).

Littleman,
Are you saying that the PCC hierarchy is corrupt or are you confusing the Fidelista PCC with the old Stalinist communist party apparatus in the old Soviet Union days?

I haven't read much of anything that claims that PCC members enjoy greater benefits than the average Cubans and in fact I've heard that PCC members wind up doing a lot of volunteer work rather than gaining any material benefit..

If you have RELIABLE sources for what you believe to be true, I'd appreciate your posting them .

[Tuff Gong]

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[Tuff Gong]

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<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Review committee to release findings on Cuban bulb probe</span>
Friday, 09 November 2007
The findings of the six-member team reviewing the reports submitted by former ministers, Kern Spencer and Phillip Paulwell on the Cuban Light Bulb Programme could be ready by Friday afternoon.

The team is to meet in a few hours to finalise its report which will be sent to Opposition Leader Portia Simpson Miller.

One of the members, PNP General Secretary Donald Buchanan, told RJR News that the findings will be available no later than Saturday.

Mrs. Simpson Miller established the team on Tuesday just hours after she received the reports from the two former Ministers.

The other members are Dr. Peter Phillips, Dr. Omar Davies, A.J. Nicholson, Easton Douglas and Lisa Hanna.

They were asked to take a detailed look at the reports and submit recommendations to Mrs. Simpson Miller.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/2844/26/

[SmoothOperator]

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Oh what a tangled web we weave...Sunday Herald blows lid off the bulb scandal. Sherine Shakes, Spencer baby mother is a 'manager' at Universal Management Co, and further GC Foster College provided free housing accomodation to the volunteers. Lets just cut to the chase and call in the hang man, back in the day that was how they deal with tief and robbers.

http://www.sunheraldjamaica.com/coverstory2.htm

Even if former State Minister Kern Spencer is not guilty of fraud, he has to explain his role in the awarding of contracts to one of the companies at the centre of the multi-million dollar Cuban light bulb controversy, where his child’s mother is a major player.

Sherine Shakes, mother of Spencer’s child, is a manager at Universal Management and Development Company, one of the two companies which was paid over $85.6 million dollars for assisting in distributing two million florescent bulbs which were donated free of cost by the Cuban Government.

Sources said Spencer made no declaration about his connection with any principals of the company when the entity was awarded the multi-million dollar contract, which was not put to public tender in contravention of the required government procedures.

The Sunday Herald has tried repeatedly to contact Spencer, without success. Spencer broke down in tears in Parliament last week, having heard Energy Minister, Clive Mullings’ bombshell revelations about the light bulb programme of which Spencer was in charge while he was State Minister in the Ministry of Industry, Technology, Energy and Commerce. Mullings told Parliament that he had called in the Police Fraud Squad and the Director of Public Prosecutions to investigate the matter, based on new evidence he had uncovered.

Mullings said the Cuban Embassy in Kingston had advised that it had paid stipends to the Cuban volunteers on the programme, prompting the question of who the stipends that were claimed from the Jamaican government by Universal Management and Development Company, were paid to.

Meanwhile, more reports continue to come in of communities and institutions, including G.C. Foster College of Physical Education and Sports, which provided free housing accommodations for some of the Cuban volunteers on the programme. This conflicted with the billing that was apparently made for such accommodation by Universal Management and Development Company.

This latest revelations have deepened the controversy and raised more questions about the $85.6 million which was paid to the company based on invoices it submitted for providing accommodation, meals and stipend for the Cuban volunteers.

[Tuff Gong]

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PNP considers sacking spokesmen on energy

Saturday, 10 November 2007

The People's National Party (PNP) continues to grapple with Phillip Paulwell and Kern Spencer, the two former Ministers who have found themselves at the centre of the Cuban light bulb controversy.

Both men were the subjects of protracted deliberations at two critical meetings of the party this weekend, but senior party members were not able to arrive at a unanimous decision.

Last month, Mr. Paulwell was appointed Opposition Spokesman on the Energy Ministry and Mr. Spencer, a junior spokesman, by Opposition Leader Portia Simpson Miller.

Now serious considerations are being given to removing the two from these positions.

This is pending the outcome of investigations into alleged financial irregularities into the Cuban light bulb distribution programme.

Friday evening, the committee established by Mrs. Simpson Miller met.

This was followed by a meeting of the Parliamentary Group.

It is understood that some are firmly of the view that Mr. Spencer should step aside.

But others contend that Mr. Paulwell should accompany Mr. Spencer as he had overall control of the Energy portfolio.

Most of the Parliamentary group is in favour of action against the two men.

The group is to meet again to continue its deliberations.

On Tuesday, Kern Spencer wept as Energy Minister Clive Mullings brought more information on the financial irregularities into the distribution of the four million light bulbs donated last year by the Cuban Government.

Mr. Mullings served notice that he would be notifying the Fraud Squad and would be referring the matter to the Director of Public Prosecution.

This is in addition to audits being undertaken by the Auditor General and Contractor General.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/2880/26/

[bee_bop]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<span style="color: #3366FF">Mr. Dumpling said: "
Littleman,
Are you saying that the PCC hierarchy is corrupt or are you confusing the Fidelista PCC with the old Stalinist communist party apparatus in the old Soviet Union days?

I haven't read much of anything that claims that PCC members enjoy greater benefits than the average Cubans and in fact I've heard that PCC members wind up doing a lot of volunteer work rather than gaining any material benefit..

If you have RELIABLE sources for what you believe to be true, I'd appreciate your posting them ."</span>

<span style="color: #33CC00">Littleman says:
Why don't you post <span style="color: #FF0000">your sources</span>, for once, people have been listening to your opinions for some time now, and I rarely see any information on sources, just your unverified opinion !!!
I think you need to take a visit to Cuba, take some pictures of people and places you see there, then post them online so we all can see this idyllic paradise of yours...</span>

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #3366FF">Mr. Dumpling said: "
Littleman,
Are you saying that the PCC hierarchy is corrupt or are you confusing the Fidelista PCC with the old Stalinist communist party apparatus in the old Soviet Union days?

I haven't read much of anything that claims that PCC members enjoy greater benefits than the average Cubans and in fact I've heard that PCC members wind up doing a lot of volunteer work rather than gaining any material benefit..

If you have RELIABLE sources for what you believe to be true, I'd appreciate your posting them ."</span>

<span style="color: #33CC00">Littleman says:
Why don't you post <span style="color: #FF0000">your sources</span>, for once, people have been listening to your opinions for some time now, and I rarely see any information on sources, just your unverified opinion !!!
I think you need to take a visit to Cuba, take some pictures of people and places you see there, then post them online so we all can see this idyllic paradise of yours...</span> </div></div>

Yu raise up the duppy now....im a dig up the wholla Z-Mag and post it in yah.
BTW speaking of duppy Cuba will only si JC ashes when im ded and ratten, im safely keep im hini and moni in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

[Wardob]

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"Yu raise up the duppy now....im a dig up the wholla Z-Mag and post it in yah.” Tuff

Tuff…u dangerous bad… a caan lauf nu mo, my hed a at mi….

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wardob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Yu raise up the duppy now....im a dig up the wholla Z-Mag and post it in yah.” Tuff

Tuff…u dangerous bad… a caan lauf nu mo, my hed a at mi….

</div></div>

LOL!

[bee_bop]

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<span style="color: #FF0000">Quotation:"Yu raise up the duppy now....im a dig up the wholla Z-Mag and post it in yah."</span>

<span style="color: #33CC00">Lawks, mi cancel that request...beg pardon from Mr. Dumpling have pity pon the message Board!!! Mi nuh know wah me ah ask fa!!!</span>

[evanovitch]

whe u tink bout dis issue?

so oonoo tink dat di male a go tek di fawl fi di female so dat one can deh bout fi di offspring [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

[niceniss]

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LOL! Mr Dumpling... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70394-bawlout.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

[Dyoll_73]

Re: whe u tink bout dis issue?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so oonoo tink dat di male a go tek di fawl fi di female so dat one can deh bout fi di offspring [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>

Me thinks he will be a good soldier (ironic ?) and take the fall for his baby modda - of course, that is should all allegations be proven true.

[evanovitch]

Re: whe u tink bout dis issue?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dyoll_73</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so oonoo tink dat di male a go tek di fawl fi di female so dat one can deh bout fi di offspring [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>

Me thinks he will be a good soldier (ironic ?) and take the fall for his baby modda - of course, that is should all allegations be proven true. </div></div>

u know mi feel seh is all dat mek him stawt bawl di odda day u know...wen him realise seh dat it was gwine to alll come out..afta all, mi no tink nobody did expek fi ha change a govament so nuff tings was not gwine to be an issue fi a while if at all..including my guy deh money....ah sah...u got to love yaad people fi real..even wen dem a seh dem is fi u di poor, dem a tief from di said poor....

[Tuff Gong]

Re: whe u tink bout dis issue?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dyoll_73</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so oonoo tink dat di male a go tek di fawl fi di female so dat one can deh bout fi di offspring [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>

Me thinks he will be a good soldier (ironic ?) and take the fall for his baby modda - of course, that is should all allegations be proven true. </div></div>

LOL....good thing mi did buss it fuss seh it was his Baby Madda that eat the Big Food!
Nothing like a fadda having to pay pickney-support.