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Re: Why Jamaica will reach firstworld status..NOT
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Newtral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mackone said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> (In any case, politicians dont elect themselves. so that says alot about the majority voting populace in jamaica.)</div></div>
Littleman says:
<span style="color: #990000">Apparently you never know how many times the various politricksters, in their respective garrisons get voted in with over 100% of the vote(the dead voting too)...how many times gunmen brazenly raid polling stations and steal ballot boxes to stuff them (and don't ask what I mean by stuff them either)...</span>
mackone said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hear people saying why the politicians dont break up the garrisons. Obviously it is the people themselves who dont want change and feel comfortable with said culture.(the majority at least). again back to jamaica's cultural curse of essentially just accepting things as they are and not ultimately wanting better. </div></div>
<span style="color: #990000">1. Have you ever heard of gunmen that tried to reform themselves??? The newspaper carried a story of one of them, many years ago, who tried to stop other gunmen from giving his son a gun, and the gunman simply shot the father dead in front of his son...apparently the father was trying to go straight after a time in prison...
2. I have been told by someone who used to visit Tivoli regularly, from the country-side, and he said that if there was a political meeting there, and you were found at home, while it was in progress, you better have a good reason to be home then...
3. I also was told by a church-going person about an attempt, some time ago to help people in the garrison areas to develop meaningful employment, a chicken-rearing business was established by the church...gunmen merely invaded the premises and destroyed the chicken coops....<span style="color: #000099">WHO YOU THINK WAS GOING TO TRY AND RESIST THOSE GUNMEN???</span>I am certain you'd be long gone to where ever...
4. In MoBay, reports from the news media relate a tale of gunmen randomly shooting helpless, innocent people...why do you think they are doing this??? Just as the previous stories about how garrisons were established in Kingston, so is it happening in MoBay...<span style="color: #000099">HOW CAN THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE RESIST THIS ONSLAUGHT??? </span>For all you know there are criminal police among them...
I am sure there are many, many more stories that can be added to these...
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Politicians are mostly elected by the<span style='font-size: 20pt'> media </span> .especially the western international media. They create and promote corrupt leaders. They seel and destroy good leaders leaders.
That is those who will not support the sacling of the wealth of theor country,by conglomerates,that the media support.
They do so because,they have the control of the type of knowledge the citizens get and decide the eventual fate of the politicians.
Corrupt countries have corrupt leaders, because that is the only way the western multinationals can get the resources od 3rd world countries for a pittance.
All they have to do is to promote a knowingly corrupt leader, fund their campaign, praise them as angels in their media instrument and sit back and wait until the naive voters,elect them.
Then they pay a little kickback and steal the resources.
they also destroy leaders that refuses to follow their playbook.
Like the present leader of Zimbabwe.
When he was acting against his people he was the darling of the west.
Now things change and he is the incarnate,even in the eyes of the so called educated blacks.
What a shame.
This is how it work. It can be eliminated too. </div></div>
If I may be so bold as to challenge a couple of your wisely points with my humble opinion,firstly politicians in Jamaica are not elected by any media,"especially western international media",..they are elected by the electorate of Jamaica,..a process which is sometimes tainted,but never the less tainted by Jamaicans.
Secondly,...to draw a parallel between Jamaica`s leaders and events in zimbabwe is a little bit naive,..it is two entirely different things,..and both stems from entirely different historical scenarious........I know you dont wish to commit a faus paux here being such a learned historical junkie such as yourself. </div></div>
I still maintain that politicians anre elected with the ,edia promotion.
And see very ;ittle difference between Jamaica and Zimbabwe. when Michael manley decide that the muned out lands that the bauxite companies owned, should be available forto th epesants the western media did nom the same they are now doing to the Zimbabwean ;eader.
When manley return and change course,he gpt the same treatment that mugabwe got before he decide that the lands should be available to the citizens, who fouhjt a bloody war of independence for it..
A war that was waged against the same people who still owned anmd controlled the majoroty of the arable lands in the country. They fought, but still havenet seen any indepebdence yet 27 years after the country is supposed to be independent
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Newtral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mackone said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> (In any case, politicians dont elect themselves. so that says alot about the majority voting populace in jamaica.)</div></div>
Littleman says:
<span style="color: #990000">Apparently you never know how many times the various politricksters, in their respective garrisons get voted in with over 100% of the vote(the dead voting too)...how many times gunmen brazenly raid polling stations and steal ballot boxes to stuff them (and don't ask what I mean by stuff them either)...</span>
mackone said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hear people saying why the politicians dont break up the garrisons. Obviously it is the people themselves who dont want change and feel comfortable with said culture.(the majority at least). again back to jamaica's cultural curse of essentially just accepting things as they are and not ultimately wanting better. </div></div>
<span style="color: #990000">1. Have you ever heard of gunmen that tried to reform themselves??? The newspaper carried a story of one of them, many years ago, who tried to stop other gunmen from giving his son a gun, and the gunman simply shot the father dead in front of his son...apparently the father was trying to go straight after a time in prison...
2. I have been told by someone who used to visit Tivoli regularly, from the country-side, and he said that if there was a political meeting there, and you were found at home, while it was in progress, you better have a good reason to be home then...
3. I also was told by a church-going person about an attempt, some time ago to help people in the garrison areas to develop meaningful employment, a chicken-rearing business was established by the church...gunmen merely invaded the premises and destroyed the chicken coops....<span style="color: #000099">WHO YOU THINK WAS GOING TO TRY AND RESIST THOSE GUNMEN???</span>I am certain you'd be long gone to where ever...
4. In MoBay, reports from the news media relate a tale of gunmen randomly shooting helpless, innocent people...why do you think they are doing this??? Just as the previous stories about how garrisons were established in Kingston, so is it happening in MoBay...<span style="color: #000099">HOW CAN THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE RESIST THIS ONSLAUGHT??? </span>For all you know there are criminal police among them...
I am sure there are many, many more stories that can be added to these...
</span> </div></div>
Politicians are mostly elected by the<span style='font-size: 20pt'> media </span> .especially the western international media. They create and promote corrupt leaders. They seel and destroy good leaders leaders.
That is those who will not support the sacling of the wealth of theor country,by conglomerates,that the media support.
They do so because,they have the control of the type of knowledge the citizens get and decide the eventual fate of the politicians.
Corrupt countries have corrupt leaders, because that is the only way the western multinationals can get the resources od 3rd world countries for a pittance.
All they have to do is to promote a knowingly corrupt leader, fund their campaign, praise them as angels in their media instrument and sit back and wait until the naive voters,elect them.
Then they pay a little kickback and steal the resources.
they also destroy leaders that refuses to follow their playbook.
Like the present leader of Zimbabwe.
When he was acting against his people he was the darling of the west.
Now things change and he is the incarnate,even in the eyes of the so called educated blacks.
What a shame.
This is how it work. It can be eliminated too. </div></div>
If I may be so bold as to challenge a couple of your wisely points with my humble opinion,firstly politicians in Jamaica are not elected by any media,"especially western international media",..they are elected by the electorate of Jamaica,..a process which is sometimes tainted,but never the less tainted by Jamaicans.
Secondly,...to draw a parallel between Jamaica`s leaders and events in zimbabwe is a little bit naive,..it is two entirely different things,..and both stems from entirely different historical scenarious........I know you dont wish to commit a faus paux here being such a learned historical junkie such as yourself. </div></div>
I still maintain that politicians anre elected with the ,edia promotion.
And see very ;ittle difference between Jamaica and Zimbabwe. when Michael manley decide that the muned out lands that the bauxite companies owned, should be available forto th epesants the western media did nom the same they are now doing to the Zimbabwean ;eader.
When manley return and change course,he gpt the same treatment that mugabwe got before he decide that the lands should be available to the citizens, who fouhjt a bloody war of independence for it..
A war that was waged against the same people who still owned anmd controlled the majoroty of the arable lands in the country. They fought, but still havenet seen any indepebdence yet 27 years after the country is supposed to be independent
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