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I not considering. I simply asking a question.
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Thanks for your insight into this WahallaIf you don't fight for what you deserve, you deserve what you get.
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But we dont want Kanada coal.....closest i think..But there is a market for coal much the same as there is one for oil... cargos are traded re directed ect..... there is a lot of lignite coal about that burns dirty.....the key is the cleaning of the gasses and sequestration of the carbon produced.....Last week a sequestration system was announced in Peterhead, Scotland at a to be developed at a power station...Originally posted by Peasie View PostThanks Wahalla. So, coal from the US?
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Originally posted by Wahalla View Post
didd yuh ask imm y jamaica cood natt finance de hub by itself ann reap da reward instead aff sellinn out to farreeen intarest dat will gitt moas aff da profit?
jamaica build ann finance da tourism industrees butt itt refused fe do da same to da hub
bunch weak minded politrixxstahs woo lack da fortitude to tekk bigg risk so dem tekk da easee way ann selloutComment
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you talking different scales of magnitudeOriginally posted by blugiant View Post
this project is bigger then the GDP of Jamaica ..they have to bring in partnersWhen its hot in the jungle of peace I go swimming in the ocean of love.....Comment
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Beijing air pollution now 800% higher than WHO limits
China continues to sing the environmental blues, with air pollution levels in the capital city of Beijing now so high that they exceed the World Health Organization's (WHO) recommended safety level by nearly eight-fold. Bloomberg reports that recent air samples taken by Beijing's Municipal Environmental Monitoring Center reveal levels of fine particulate matter, PM2.5, hovering just under 200 micrograms per cubic meter (mcg/m3), or about 800 percent higher than the WHO limit of 25 mcg/m3.
The most threatening form of particulate matter, PM2.5, is the designation given to very fine particles that measure smaller than 2.5 mcg in diameter. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) lists PM2.5 as the most harmful type of particulate pollution for humans, because it is easily inhaled and, due to its small size, capable of lodging and accumulating deep within the lungs and respiratory system.
According to reports, levels of PM2.5 measuring 198 mcg/m3 were detected in China's Tiananmen Square around 11 a.m. on February 22, prompting China's Ministry of Environmental Protection to dispatch 12 groups of investigators to three different Chinese provinces to see if local authorities there are following proper environmental guidelines. This includes enforcing appropriate regulations on highly polluting industries like steel and coal production.
"Beijing maintained its air pollution alert at orange, triggering orders for some enterprises to limit production and a ban on outdoor barbecues and fireworks, as smog levels were projected to stay hazardous until at least Monday morning," explains Bloomberg, noting that extreme levels of air pollution are being detected all across China. "Smog will persist until Monday morning in Beijing, Tianjin, and parts of Hebei, Shandong, Henan, Shanxi and Shaanxi provinces," adds the report.
Many years of heavy pollution has destroyed 8 million acres of Chinese farmland
Unfortunately for the Chinese people, the human health consequences of all this air pollution extend far beyond simply inhaling particulate matter when out in public. Back in December, Chinese officials announced that more than 8 million acres, or about 3.33 million hectares, of fertile farmland is now too polluted for growing crops.
China's Vice Minister of Land and Resources Wang Shiyuan told reporters at a news conference right after Christmas that all farming operations on this polluted land would have to cease immediately to make way for remediation and cleanup efforts. He did not, however, comment on whether food already grown and harvested from this polluted land would still be permitted for retail sale.
"These areas cannot continue farming," he stated, noting that all 8 million acres are moderately to severely polluted with toxic chemicals.
With arable land area the size of Belgium now lost, not to mention Beijing having experienced its worst air pollution "storm" on record back in January, it is no wonder that China is constantly in the news for selling and exporting polluted food. According to the Chinese government, the country needs at least 120 million hectares of arable land to meet its food needs, an amount that it is now barely achieving.
"There is a price to pay for becoming the world's factory country, and now it's beginning to show up," adds one CBC.ca commenter to the conversation. "There is also a price to pay for doing things in a way that businesses favors.... It's just a matter of time before people have to clamor for change in order to keep from starving."
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Originally posted by RichD View Post
5 Reasons Jamaica Should Own Its Global Logistics Hub Without China
1. To Ensure That There’s A Monetary Benefit To Jamaicans At All Levels
The most recent proposal to lease or sell the Goat Islands is one that can only be described as ludicrous. Jamaica may not know what mineral resources exist there, but they do know there is great potential. Therefore, the only deal that could be acceptable is one that ensures a majority of funds or other proceeds from exploration would be retained in Jamaica; and funds that are removed should be sufficiently taxed to benefit the nation; and employment opportunities for both skilled and unskilled persons should weigh heavily in our favor, since we know the Chinese penchant for using their own mass workers in foreign projects.
2. Environmental Concerns In Regards To Goat Islands
With the track record of the Chinese concerning public-health issues, and in particular air pollution — their treatment of the aquatic environment, in addition to their death tolls and treatment of the environment — won’t that put the island and its people at risk?
3. Jamaica Is Already Well Positioned To Be A Logistics Hub Without The Chinese
In Kingston Harbour, Jamaica has the basics of what is required — a good location, berths, and significant investment in cranes and land-based facilities. We know the required infrastructure to get it up to speed for the expanded Panama Canal — dredging of Kingston Harbour with accompanying deepening of the docking areas and added investment in landside plant and equipment.
The dredging must be self-financed, and the Port Authority and the Government of Jamaica have it in their power to announce a cess for the use of the harbor that will allow for the recovery of the cost of the dredging over an extended period.
4. Jamaica Has Already Proven It Can Build Out A Service Industry With Tourism
The prize for successful hub development is great. Singapore, for example, estimates that more than 100,000 are employed directly in its various logistics hubs, and that logistics hubs account for about 7 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP) and its GDP is 18 times that of Jamaica’s.
All Jamaica must be ready to show the investor that it understands what is needed in a service industry. It has done it for tourism, which, after all, is a service industry, and it can do it for logistics hubs.
5. Jamaica Doesn’t Want To End Up In a Relationship With The Chinese That Is Similar To The Ones In Africa
Africans have become resentful, though, unhappy with unbalanced relationships in which China has taken proprietorship of African natural resources using Chinese labor and equipment without transferring skills and technology. “China takes our primary goods and sells us manufactured ones. This was also the essence of colonialism,” Lamido Sanusi, the governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, wrote in the Financial Times earlier this year.Comment
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Again no one knows what China is going to build at Goat Islands. In terms of Logistics Jamaica would seem a natural fit for such an operation, the question is why has it not been done before and why not using existing facilities?Comment
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Originally posted by Tuff Gong View Post
it has not even got to that state yey..they are just talking a "framework for discussion".
but having said that ..we don't know what they planning but somebody knows.When its hot in the jungle of peace I go swimming in the ocean of love.....Comment
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One other comment worth mentioning... The consortium includes Dubai Ports. which is interesting in that there is mention of Israeli company talking.
As for Jamaican government running it.....they cant run the JPS.....or any of the numerous hotels took over...the debacle. Of highway 2000.....
Wait till expats start coming in.......
I still am not convinced it will happen.... Who remebers the promise of non traditional exports..... CBI ...horticulture.... Dehydrated fruit.....microdams.....all our previous saviours....
I still think this is smoke less substantial.Comment
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Precisely.Originally posted by RichD View Post
Why don't they tell and why Goat Islands?
Why don't the Jamaica Government rule all further industrial development on our Barriers Islands and Reefs off limits?Comment
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Goat island is low hanging fruit... i am sure they could to this in Kilsome Harbour.... I still keep come back who will be the owner / operator ????????? who will pay for it, oh China Harbour will build it, but who operates it???? I know the number of 10000 jobs...that is imaginary exaggeration number...not till they get a industrial park..Originally posted by Tuff Gong View PostLast edited by Wahalla; 03-05-2014, 07:54 AM.Comment
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looks like its Dubai Ports in line for the operationsOriginally posted by Wahalla View PostWhen its hot in the jungle of peace I go swimming in the ocean of love.....Comment
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